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Viagra and Cialis — Cause of melanoma & lawsuits

Forums General Melanoma Community Viagra and Cialis — Cause of melanoma & lawsuits

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      Bubbles
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        OMG!!! That’s it! All that viagra I never took caused my melanoma! Oooops. Nope. Me and my girls around here don’t have “VIAGRA melanoma”. In fact, I’ve never seen “VIAGRA melanoma” noted as a “type” of melanoma beyond these lawyers looking to make a buck off the backs of melanoma peeps. And….too bad for these lawyers….that 2014 study has been debunked –

        Erectile dysfunction medicines do not cause melanoma, analysis of large studies finds – https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170519083639.htm

        Erectile Dysfunction Drugs Don’t Cause Melanoma, Researchers Say – https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ed-drugs-dont-cause-melanoma-researchers-say

        Study Refutes Viagra-Melanoma Link
        Data shows no connection between impotence drug and deadly skin cancer, after all – https://www.webmd.com/melanoma-skin-cancer/news/20170519/study-refutes-viagra-melanoma-link

        The study that started all this hubba hubba was originally published in 2014 and was found grossly flawed via detection bias as this later study published in 2017 noted. So….yeah… I don’t think these lawyers are gonna be trying nuttin “in 2018 or 2019”. You know? SCIENCE. Something is pays to stay aBREAST of!!!!

        Maybe you should call the law firm, Gene and keep them “a-breast” of the SCIENCE!!!! Thanks for the smiles!!! c

          MelanomaMike
          Participant
            Hehehe!! 🙂
            Gene_S
            Participant
              Ok… what caused your melanoma Celeste? Don’t blame the sun because there is absolutely no proof that the sun causes melanoma. The sun does cause non-melanoma
              skin cancer. So confess what caused yours ? If you say the sun please provide proof.
              ed williams
              Participant
                Gene, Gene the alternative medicine machine, here are two links for you. The first is from the host of this forum MRF, so there is that!!! The second link is to CRI and a general article causes of cancer but not specific to melanoma. https://melanoma.org/melanoma-education/understand-melanoma/facts-stats/ https://www.cancerresearch.org/blog/april-2019/what-causes-cancer-risk-factors
                Brian j
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                  CDC seems to think so….Melanoma and the Environment
                  Melanoma is a type of cancer in skin cells that produce the pigment that colors the skin (melanin). It is the most dangerous and one of the most common cancers among adolescents and adults under 40. If this type of skin cancer is found early, it can be cured. However, melanoma can spread through the body much more quickly than other types of skin cancers and can cause death.
                  Between 65 and 90% of melanomas are caused by exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation from sunlight. Small amounts of UV radiation are good for people and needed for the body to produce vitamin D. But too much exposure to the sun’s rays can cause skin damage such as sunburn, wrinkles, and skin cancers. Peoples’ behavior in the sun is believed to be a major reason for the rise in skin cancer rates, including melanoma, over the last few decades
                  MelanomaMike
                  Participant
                    Hi Anonymous’s, with all due respect, why is it that the Africans in Africa (non-White) and Indigenous people’s of South America, Australia, New Zealand etc. Have statistically the lowest forms of cancer especially that of Melanoma? And dont discredit stats because of lack of insurance or medical attention, They are far more exposed to the UV Ray’s then American culture (for example)….Has their DNA over hundreds of years manipulated their melanocytes to confirm with their enviornment? Let’s ponder on this one, any input anyone?
                    Brian j
                    Participant
                      CDC seems to think so….Melanoma and the Environment
                      Melanoma is a type of cancer in skin cells that produce the pigment that colors the skin (melanin). It is the most dangerous and one of the most common cancers among adolescents and adults under 40. If this type of skin cancer is found early, it can be cured. However, melanoma can spread through the body much more quickly than other types of skin cancers and can cause death.
                      Between 65 and 90% of melanomas are caused by exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation from sunlight. Small amounts of UV radiation are good for people and needed for the body to produce vitamin D. But too much exposure to the sun’s rays can cause skin damage such as sunburn, wrinkles, and skin cancers. Peoples’ behavior in the sun is believed to be a major reason for the rise in skin cancer rates, including melanoma, over the last few decades
                      Gene_S
                      Participant
                        Celeste maybe you can contact this women and laugh and tell her about you and your girls?

                        Woman Files Viagra Wrongful Death Lawsuit on Behalf of Deceased Husband

                        https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/338816-woman-files-viagra-wrongful-death-lawsuit-behalf-deceased-husband/

                        I used to think that you took this subject of cancer serious but not longer feel that way.

                        ed williams
                        Participant
                          Just Keep it up Gene!!!! You are making it Hard for anyone to want to help you with your erectile dysfunction law suite!!!
                          MelanomaMike
                          Participant
                            Hahahahahahahahahahaha (cough) hahahahahahahahahah(cough) hahahahahaha that was good!
                            markmsn
                            Participant
                              Hi Bubbles – I appreciate those links since I am worried about being on Silendafil. I do have a question though– do you have any other studies showing this non-association? Those are all from the same Stacy Loeb MD which I’m on the cautious side since she’s a paid consultant for Eli Lilly (The company that makes Cialis which is also a PDE5 inhibitor.) Trying to make sure this isn’t some kind of a cover-up from somebody close to the source. Thank you!! Below you will find her credentials so I am skeptical of this study refuting it without seeing others.

                              Stacy Loeb
                              Honoraria: MDxHealth, Boehringer Ingelheim, Astellas Pharma

                              Consulting or Advisory Role: Bayer, GenomeDx, Eli Lilly

                              Expert Testimony: Eli Lilly

                              Travel, Accommodations, Expenses: Sanofi, Minomic

                              Bubbles
                              Participant
                                My best advice:

                                #1 – Talk to your melanoma specialist.

                                #2 – Read the study yourself and contact the author with your questions. Re the data. Re the related employment. (FYI – It is incredibly hard to find a researcher at a major institution who is not affiliated in some way to drug companies. Not say’n your concern is not legit….just say’n.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5437700/ Author information: “Correspondence to: Stacy Loeb, MD, MSc, 550 1st Ave, VZ30 (6th floor, #612), New York, NY 10016 (e-mail: moc.liamg@beolycats).”

                                #3 – Read the reference articles listed at the bottom.

                                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5046205/ Pottegard et al = “We found little evidence for a causal association between PDEI use and risk of melanoma. The marginally increased risk of early stage disease likely resulted from more frequent health-care contacts among PDEI users.”

                                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27178449 Lian et al = “CONCLUSIONS: The use of PDE5-Is was not associated with an overall increased risk of melanoma skin cancer. The increased risks observed in the highest prescription and pill categories require further validation.

                                PATIENT SUMMARY: In this study, the use of phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors was not associated with an increased risk of melanoma skin cancer.”

                                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27299522 Matthews et al = “CONCLUSIONS: Our results were not consistent with PDE5 inhibitors being causally associated with melanoma risk, and strongly suggest that observed risk increases are driven by greater sun exposure among patients exposed to a PDE5 inhibitor.”

                                That’s just a start. Hope that helps. Celeste

                                markmsn
                                Participant
                                  Bubbles- you are fantastic! Those were great reads! It does not appear causal as many of the studies failed to show any association. Except for 250 to 500 tablets where there may be a slight increase but could still be detection bias.
                                ed williams
                                Participant
                                  I hope you are successful in your claim Gene, I know it can be hard to win big $$$$ against big pharma. If they offer you a small amount just keep it up the pressure and I am sure you will be satisfied in the end!!!
                                    MelanomaMike
                                    Participant
                                      Hahahaaha!!! Your puns are hard to swallow Ed!
                                      Gene_S
                                      Participant
                                        Ed, I can only hope that someday you will learn to read before you comment… I HAVE NO CLAIM so where do you think that I am to get any money from this?
                                      Casitas1
                                      Participant
                                        It’s really Hard to Grasp it all!
                                        MelanomaMike
                                        Participant
                                          I believe my Melanoma was either brought on by Dioxin, the chemical in the infamous defoliant “”Agent Orange””, my daddy fought in Vietnam in areas they sprayed heavily, birth defects do include Melanoma…And, my other notion is, years of licking Envolopes & Stamps have caused my Melanoma to arise in me….take that Viagravate! Hahaha…hay! Its Friday Nite Comedy Hour isnt it?
                                            MelanomaMike
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                                              “”Viagra Gate”” i meant…haha
                                              Swanee
                                              Participant
                                                Hi Mike! I’ve been hanging on this website for 9 years and was really active the first couple years, when it was a very peaceful website. But then a few new members joined and it became very volitile!
                                                I was diagnosed Stage 4 right out the gate and not given long to live! I had a dear friend that came to visit and she suggested the Budwig diet, which I have followed since 2011l. I’ve tried to share my success but it was quickly shot down by the big hitters on this site. While I respect their opinions immensely, I also know there are many paths to our recovery. What I do and say is just a suggestion!
                                                I knew early on I was in a serious situation but because I also learned early on,. that I had an over active immune system and I didn’t respond well to immunotherapy. I’m all on board and all set to go with TIL at SCCA. I believe in modern medicine but I also believe in simple answers too! So far the Budwig diet has helped me immensely. I know it may not be a complete cure but for me, I do believe it has slowed the progression of my cancer. I love your humor Mike, you are someone that I would love to know (and I kinda do know:) and you could be from my family! I pray for your complete recovery and continued longevity, you are a sweet, loving and kind person and I wish you all the best! The thing is about this website is….so many people are on it and following, but we may or may not make comments or have other reasons why we no longer respond to posts! So make no mistake, there are so many people here who are rooting for you Mike, you are a shining star on this website and we are all following your journey with the greatest and biggest hopes for you! Sending BIG HUGE HUGS AND LOVE to you! Swanee

                                                MelMel
                                                Participant
                                                  Swanee. I could not agree more with everything you have said. Scientific studies are all fine and dandy but they only scratch the tip of the iceberg and there is much that we do not know. Just because something is not scientifically proven yet does not mean it has no merit. My biggest issue is that when the standard scientific protocol fails what then? Simply offer to have a cup of tea and a hug with a person? I cannot accept that. No one knows our bodies like we do and we need to be our own best advocates. God gave us brains so we need to use them and decide our own plan of action, adjusting it along as we go and as our situation changes. Life is in a constant state of flux and as long as we are on this side of the grass, we need to be as well. Cancer of any kind is a complex disease and as such it only stands to reason that we should attack it from multiple avenues and diet is paramount. You battled stage IV melanoma for almost ten years and know and have experienced it firsthand. Wishing you continued success.
                                                  Melanie
                                                  MelanomaMike
                                                  Participant
                                                    Swanee! Thank you for your reply! Ha, i originally thought the post about Viagra was a true thing, the corelation between Melanoma and Viagra but, who knows, i never took that stuff and i have Melanoma!!!, plus, i was a nucklehead growing up since i was 12 and being in and out of then Juvenile hall then Prison, i didnt get the Sun exposure like most folks did, so, the Sun is probably not my cause, on the other hand though, Dioxine (Agent Orange, my dad was in Vietnam) as a birth defect “Maybe”, theres a study on it, but no 100% proof, and why would it ly and wait til 2008 to sprout? Melanoma and its cause is still up in the air, one day we will learn of its origin but as of now we can only focus on fighting it when we have it…thanks again for your support! And i wish you well to! We will Beat this Crap!! Thanks Swanee….
                                                  Gene_S
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                                                    We are starting to awaken to the fact that it seems to be the rule, and not the exception, that large Western corporations put profits above human health considerations. The only time they seem to give any regard to human health concerns is when their forecasts of potential lawsuits down the road would likely exceed the cost measures needed to ensure the safety of their product.
                                                    https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/08/17/johnson-johnson-found-to-have-knowingly-allowed-asbestos-in-their-baby-powder/
                                                      MelanomaMike
                                                      Participant
                                                        With all due respect Anonymous , why is it that the Africans in Africa (non-White) and Indigenous people’s of South America, Australia, New Zealand etc. Have statistically the lowest forms of cancer especially that of Melanoma? And dont discredit stats because of lack of insurance or medical attention, They are far more exposed to the UV Ray’s then American culture (for example)….Has their DNA over hundreds of years manipulated their melanocytes to confirm with their enviornment? Let’s ponder on this one, any input anyone?
                                                      Gene_S
                                                      Participant
                                                          ed williams
                                                          Participant
                                                            Here you go Gene, some more information for your law suite!!! First link is article from Harvard health talking to melanoma specialist, second link is dr. from article. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/erectile-dysfunction-drugs-skin-cancer-worry-201406057197 https://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?id=17035
                                                            Gene_S
                                                            Participant
                                                              Ed, I DO NOT HAVE A LAWSUIT… PERIOD YOU ARE DELUSIONAL AND NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ! You comment on everything posted even when you know NOTHING about the subject. This is my last reply about anything you comment about!

                                                              Goodbye

                                                              I can only hope that readers here learn that you are a expert on NOTHING!

                                                              MelanomaMike
                                                              Participant
                                                                Oh Gene_S be nice! I know you two have been battling back & forth about various things, in fact Ed Williams is very knowledgeable & if theres something he does not know “how” to explain it, hell provide a Link JUST LIKE YOU DO!… lets get along! Were trying to Fight Melanoma here NOT eachother!
                                                                MelanomaMike
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                                                                  153 of them was Yours Gene..
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