Aspartame – Must Read

My dad never had aspartame in his diet and he never went out in the sun…..or so I thought! In the sun that is……I found out that he got regular bad burns from visiting a pool when he visited his grandparents each year up until I think the age 9 or 10. He was dropped off at the pool with his brother for the day in the hot Australian sun and came back badly burned.  Of course he is one example in millions of people, but the theory that sun and melanoma are not related seems way too extreme for me.  I wouldn't deny that the sun cannot be the only contributing factor…ie our immune system, family history and perhaps a continuous lack of vitamin D from the sun?

I read your posts regularly and I'm amazed how much research you do thats a great contribution to everyone who visits this site, but do you really believe that the sun and melanoma are not linked at all?  Thanks for the info.

Nahmi from Melbourne

My dad never had aspartame in his diet and he never went out in the sun…..or so I thought! In the sun that is……I found out that he got regular bad burns from visiting a pool when he visited his grandparents each year up until I think the age 9 or 10. He was dropped off at the pool with his brother for the day in the hot Australian sun and came back badly burned.  Of course he is one example in millions of people, but the theory that sun and melanoma are not related seems way too extreme for me.  I wouldn't deny that the sun cannot be the only contributing factor…ie our immune system, family history and perhaps a continuous lack of vitamin D from the sun?

I read your posts regularly and I'm amazed how much research you do thats a great contribution to everyone who visits this site, but do you really believe that the sun and melanoma are not linked at all?  Thanks for the info.

Nahmi from Melbourne

" If one was to read about the location where melanoma is found on the patients a lot of them are in areas where the sun never shines."

—that's because the damage done is systemic. . so it doesn't have to occur where the sun shines

" If one was to read about the location where melanoma is found on the patients a lot of them are in areas where the sun never shines."

—that's because the damage done is systemic. . so it doesn't have to occur where the sun shines

" If one was to read about the location where melanoma is found on the patients a lot of them are in areas where the sun never shines."

—that's because the damage done is systemic. . so it doesn't have to occur where the sun shines

And Dermatologists are noticing melanoma in areas where the artificial light of a tanning bed shines..

And Dermatologists are noticing melanoma in areas where the artificial light of a tanning bed shines..

And Dermatologists are noticing melanoma in areas where the artificial light of a tanning bed shines..

For clarification, how did you contract melanoma and how did you overcome it?

Specifically.

Charlie S

For clarification, how did you contract melanoma and how did you overcome it?

Specifically.

Charlie S

For clarification, how did you contract melanoma and how did you overcome it?

Specifically.

Charlie S

I allowed the skin around my mole to turn slightly pink in the sun  – and look where I am now (a melanoma board). 

Please use caution; best wishes are not proven science!

 

I allowed the skin around my mole to turn slightly pink in the sun  – and look where I am now (a melanoma board). 

Please use caution; best wishes are not proven science!

 

I allowed the skin around my mole to turn slightly pink in the sun  – and look where I am now (a melanoma board). 

Please use caution; best wishes are not proven science!

 

My dad never had aspartame in his diet and he never went out in the sun…..or so I thought! In the sun that is……I found out that he got regular bad burns from visiting a pool when he visited his grandparents each year up until I think the age 9 or 10. He was dropped off at the pool with his brother for the day in the hot Australian sun and came back badly burned.  Of course he is one example in millions of people, but the theory that sun and melanoma are not related seems way too extreme for me.  I wouldn't deny that the sun cannot be the only contributing factor…ie our immune system, family history and perhaps a continuous lack of vitamin D from the sun?

I read your posts regularly and I'm amazed how much research you do thats a great contribution to everyone who visits this site, but do you really believe that the sun and melanoma are not linked at all?  Thanks for the info.

Nahmi from Melbourne

Saccharin and cyclamates were pulled off the market years ago because they caused cancer and other health problems. I'm not sure how much better sucralose is but it's still on the market.

But if you really prefer to use a sweetener other than sugar, try Stevia. It comes from a plant rather than a test tube.

Saccharin and cyclamates were pulled off the market years ago because they caused cancer and other health problems. I'm not sure how much better sucralose is but it's still on the market.

But if you really prefer to use a sweetener other than sugar, try Stevia. It comes from a plant rather than a test tube.

You're right. Saccharin is in Sweet & Low. I could have sworn it was pulled off the market. I did some research and found that in a study that was done in 1977 it was indicated that Saccharin caused cancer in laboratory rats. The FDA had tried to pull it off the market back then and failed. I do remember the FDA trying to pull it off the market. I just didn't realize they had failed in their attempt.. I still wouldn't use it, though.

You're right. Saccharin is in Sweet & Low. I could have sworn it was pulled off the market. I did some research and found that in a study that was done in 1977 it was indicated that Saccharin caused cancer in laboratory rats. The FDA had tried to pull it off the market back then and failed. I do remember the FDA trying to pull it off the market. I just didn't realize they had failed in their attempt.. I still wouldn't use it, though.

You're right. Saccharin is in Sweet & Low. I could have sworn it was pulled off the market. I did some research and found that in a study that was done in 1977 it was indicated that Saccharin caused cancer in laboratory rats. The FDA had tried to pull it off the market back then and failed. I do remember the FDA trying to pull it off the market. I just didn't realize they had failed in their attempt.. I still wouldn't use it, though.

Saccharin and cyclamates were pulled off the market years ago because they caused cancer and other health problems. I'm not sure how much better sucralose is but it's still on the market.

But if you really prefer to use a sweetener other than sugar, try Stevia. It comes from a plant rather than a test tube.

Really, Gene? Ipi, anti-PD1, braf, braf-mek, IL2, and TIL seem to be doing a pretty good job for some folks. Not nearly enough…but better than a no sugar diet while standing in wet dirt! Let’s get real here. I’ve never been a sun worshiper, I’ve never been one pound over weight, I’ve ALWAYS eaten mostly fruits and veggies and NEVER eaten processed foods or fake sugar…very little real sugar for that matter (Never mind that the human body turns EVERYTHING we eat…even if only termites and rutabagas…into sugar for use in our cells…that’s a whole nother story!) …and exercised almost everyday. Can YOU say that is the case for you? And guess what? I STILL developed Stage IV melanoma. And get this!! I still advocate that healthy life style for others….but am not deluded into thinking that it will prevent all cancers. Why don’t we work to promote real data, real facts and real support on a site where desperate folks look for real answers? Why don’t you try checking out the research being done at Dartmouth where they are trying to find the link between the development of vitiligo (I believe you have white whiskers at this point) and the absence of melanoma in mice as I am, since anti-PD1 has rendered large portions of my skin pigment free? There is so much you could do to help find a cure…help others gain the disease free years you have been lucky enough to experience. Yes…it would be fabulous to know why cells sometimes spiral into a nutty cancerous mutation…and someday I hope we will. However, it is already abundantly clear that a Coke by the beach while wearing sun screen didn’t do it. Let’s abandon delusions and quackery for real answers to real people who need them.

Really, Gene? Ipi, anti-PD1, braf, braf-mek, IL2, and TIL seem to be doing a pretty good job for some folks. Not nearly enough…but better than a no sugar diet while standing in wet dirt! Let’s get real here. I’ve never been a sun worshiper, I’ve never been one pound over weight, I’ve ALWAYS eaten mostly fruits and veggies and NEVER eaten processed foods or fake sugar…very little real sugar for that matter (Never mind that the human body turns EVERYTHING we eat…even if only termites and rutabagas…into sugar for use in our cells…that’s a whole nother story!) …and exercised almost everyday. Can YOU say that is the case for you? And guess what? I STILL developed Stage IV melanoma. And get this!! I still advocate that healthy life style for others….but am not deluded into thinking that it will prevent all cancers. Why don’t we work to promote real data, real facts and real support on a site where desperate folks look for real answers? Why don’t you try checking out the research being done at Dartmouth where they are trying to find the link between the development of vitiligo (I believe you have white whiskers at this point) and the absence of melanoma in mice as I am, since anti-PD1 has rendered large portions of my skin pigment free? There is so much you could do to help find a cure…help others gain the disease free years you have been lucky enough to experience. Yes…it would be fabulous to know why cells sometimes spiral into a nutty cancerous mutation…and someday I hope we will. However, it is already abundantly clear that a Coke by the beach while wearing sun screen didn’t do it. Let’s abandon delusions and quackery for real answers to real people who need them.

Really, Gene? Ipi, anti-PD1, braf, braf-mek, IL2, and TIL seem to be doing a pretty good job for some folks. Not nearly enough…but better than a no sugar diet while standing in wet dirt! Let’s get real here. I’ve never been a sun worshiper, I’ve never been one pound over weight, I’ve ALWAYS eaten mostly fruits and veggies and NEVER eaten processed foods or fake sugar…very little real sugar for that matter (Never mind that the human body turns EVERYTHING we eat…even if only termites and rutabagas…into sugar for use in our cells…that’s a whole nother story!) …and exercised almost everyday. Can YOU say that is the case for you? And guess what? I STILL developed Stage IV melanoma. And get this!! I still advocate that healthy life style for others….but am not deluded into thinking that it will prevent all cancers. Why don’t we work to promote real data, real facts and real support on a site where desperate folks look for real answers? Why don’t you try checking out the research being done at Dartmouth where they are trying to find the link between the development of vitiligo (I believe you have white whiskers at this point) and the absence of melanoma in mice as I am, since anti-PD1 has rendered large portions of my skin pigment free? There is so much you could do to help find a cure…help others gain the disease free years you have been lucky enough to experience. Yes…it would be fabulous to know why cells sometimes spiral into a nutty cancerous mutation…and someday I hope we will. However, it is already abundantly clear that a Coke by the beach while wearing sun screen didn’t do it. Let’s abandon delusions and quackery for real answers to real people who need them.

You say in "researching cancer cures" in one sentence then in another say there will "never be a cure"? Which is it?

And will you please plainly state that the reason you are enjoying what  seems to be a "durable remission" is IPI ?

That admission would be far more helpful, factual and hopeful to many rather than going on and on with psuedo science, speculation.  

You have a remission due to IPI, not this other tripe.

Charlie S

You say in "researching cancer cures" in one sentence then in another say there will "never be a cure"? Which is it?

And will you please plainly state that the reason you are enjoying what  seems to be a "durable remission" is IPI ?

That admission would be far more helpful, factual and hopeful to many rather than going on and on with psuedo science, speculation.  

You have a remission due to IPI, not this other tripe.

Charlie S

You say in "researching cancer cures" in one sentence then in another say there will "never be a cure"? Which is it?

And will you please plainly state that the reason you are enjoying what  seems to be a "durable remission" is IPI ?

That admission would be far more helpful, factual and hopeful to many rather than going on and on with psuedo science, speculation.  

You have a remission due to IPI, not this other tripe.

Charlie S

How do you know that anything else besides the IPI helped?  Did you do the IPI without all the stuff (eating and behaving as most do) and then change your diet to clean?  You're a scientific experiment of ONE with no control.  You can't say the Vitamin D3, selenium or anything else did anything.  You can say you are in remission and Yervoy (which has proven science behind it for stopping melanoma) is the reason.  The rest is just fluff because you can't prove any of it.   It's no different from saying Yervoy and prayer cured you.  And without the prayer, you wouldn't have been NED.  I'm not knocking prayer or Vit D3 or any supplements – they are SUPPLEMENTS to treatment but there is no proof that they are a treatment.  There is proof that Yervoy is a treatment and you are enjoying the effects of that drug.

I'm all for doing what makes a person feel in control with a disease where we're not in control.  If you want to pray, supplement, eat vegan or sugar free or practice yoga (whatever) – go for it.  But don't say the supplements are the reason you are NED when they aren't proven and Yervoy is.

One of my favorite stage IV ladies, Glenda, was on this site for a long time.  Stage IV for over 10 years – long before these new treatments came along.  She basically said that if she were to die tomorrow, it wasn't going to be eating wheat grass (paraphasing).  Life was too short not to enjoy whatever she wanted.  She was a study of ONE, just like you.  Her treatments and her diet (or lack thereof) gave her 10 years in a time where stage IV life expectency was 6 months.

This is a personal fight for everyone.  My 88 year old stage IV father decided he didn't want to eat certain packaged foods recently – it might be bad for him.  He's lived to 88 with 4 types of cancer and he's worried about this NOW?   It's not even worth an argument to say that eating anything he wants probably isn't going to change his outcome.  Stage IV melanoma doing no treatments doesn't have great numbers to begin with. 

Personally, I don't have a problem with all your postings of research (or pseudo science) as long as you don't imply that these are a cure and everyone should be doing them.  We all have to fight the battle the best way we can.  Putting info out there is great, but implying it might do more just because YOU think it does – that's when you raise my hackles.  The first thing I look for in any article is who wrote it, what journal it was in, and how large was the sample size.  THEN I might actually read it if I feel it is worthy.  I don't want to waste my time and effort on things without good hard numbers behind it.   Too many times we've heard tell of this or that drug/compound that kills melanoma in a petrie dish only to find out it does nothing in the human body. 

Wishing everyone the best in their own personal fight with melanoma no matter what treatments, supplements or lifestyle they choose.  We all have to do it our own way.

Janner

How do you know that anything else besides the IPI helped?  Did you do the IPI without all the stuff (eating and behaving as most do) and then change your diet to clean?  You're a scientific experiment of ONE with no control.  You can't say the Vitamin D3, selenium or anything else did anything.  You can say you are in remission and Yervoy (which has proven science behind it for stopping melanoma) is the reason.  The rest is just fluff because you can't prove any of it.   It's no different from saying Yervoy and prayer cured you.  And without the prayer, you wouldn't have been NED.  I'm not knocking prayer or Vit D3 or any supplements – they are SUPPLEMENTS to treatment but there is no proof that they are a treatment.  There is proof that Yervoy is a treatment and you are enjoying the effects of that drug.

I'm all for doing what makes a person feel in control with a disease where we're not in control.  If you want to pray, supplement, eat vegan or sugar free or practice yoga (whatever) – go for it.  But don't say the supplements are the reason you are NED when they aren't proven and Yervoy is.

One of my favorite stage IV ladies, Glenda, was on this site for a long time.  Stage IV for over 10 years – long before these new treatments came along.  She basically said that if she were to die tomorrow, it wasn't going to be eating wheat grass (paraphasing).  Life was too short not to enjoy whatever she wanted.  She was a study of ONE, just like you.  Her treatments and her diet (or lack thereof) gave her 10 years in a time where stage IV life expectency was 6 months.

This is a personal fight for everyone.  My 88 year old stage IV father decided he didn't want to eat certain packaged foods recently – it might be bad for him.  He's lived to 88 with 4 types of cancer and he's worried about this NOW?   It's not even worth an argument to say that eating anything he wants probably isn't going to change his outcome.  Stage IV melanoma doing no treatments doesn't have great numbers to begin with. 

Personally, I don't have a problem with all your postings of research (or pseudo science) as long as you don't imply that these are a cure and everyone should be doing them.  We all have to fight the battle the best way we can.  Putting info out there is great, but implying it might do more just because YOU think it does – that's when you raise my hackles.  The first thing I look for in any article is who wrote it, what journal it was in, and how large was the sample size.  THEN I might actually read it if I feel it is worthy.  I don't want to waste my time and effort on things without good hard numbers behind it.   Too many times we've heard tell of this or that drug/compound that kills melanoma in a petrie dish only to find out it does nothing in the human body. 

Wishing everyone the best in their own personal fight with melanoma no matter what treatments, supplements or lifestyle they choose.  We all have to do it our own way.

Janner

How do you know that anything else besides the IPI helped?  Did you do the IPI without all the stuff (eating and behaving as most do) and then change your diet to clean?  You're a scientific experiment of ONE with no control.  You can't say the Vitamin D3, selenium or anything else did anything.  You can say you are in remission and Yervoy (which has proven science behind it for stopping melanoma) is the reason.  The rest is just fluff because you can't prove any of it.   It's no different from saying Yervoy and prayer cured you.  And without the prayer, you wouldn't have been NED.  I'm not knocking prayer or Vit D3 or any supplements – they are SUPPLEMENTS to treatment but there is no proof that they are a treatment.  There is proof that Yervoy is a treatment and you are enjoying the effects of that drug.

I'm all for doing what makes a person feel in control with a disease where we're not in control.  If you want to pray, supplement, eat vegan or sugar free or practice yoga (whatever) – go for it.  But don't say the supplements are the reason you are NED when they aren't proven and Yervoy is.

One of my favorite stage IV ladies, Glenda, was on this site for a long time.  Stage IV for over 10 years – long before these new treatments came along.  She basically said that if she were to die tomorrow, it wasn't going to be eating wheat grass (paraphasing).  Life was too short not to enjoy whatever she wanted.  She was a study of ONE, just like you.  Her treatments and her diet (or lack thereof) gave her 10 years in a time where stage IV life expectency was 6 months.

This is a personal fight for everyone.  My 88 year old stage IV father decided he didn't want to eat certain packaged foods recently – it might be bad for him.  He's lived to 88 with 4 types of cancer and he's worried about this NOW?   It's not even worth an argument to say that eating anything he wants probably isn't going to change his outcome.  Stage IV melanoma doing no treatments doesn't have great numbers to begin with. 

Personally, I don't have a problem with all your postings of research (or pseudo science) as long as you don't imply that these are a cure and everyone should be doing them.  We all have to fight the battle the best way we can.  Putting info out there is great, but implying it might do more just because YOU think it does – that's when you raise my hackles.  The first thing I look for in any article is who wrote it, what journal it was in, and how large was the sample size.  THEN I might actually read it if I feel it is worthy.  I don't want to waste my time and effort on things without good hard numbers behind it.   Too many times we've heard tell of this or that drug/compound that kills melanoma in a petrie dish only to find out it does nothing in the human body. 

Wishing everyone the best in their own personal fight with melanoma no matter what treatments, supplements or lifestyle they choose.  We all have to do it our own way.

Janner

 

Odd… when you said " Here are some numbers from the American Heart Association on sugar"

you linked Mercola's interpretation of the numbers, not something 'from the American Heart Association'.  

 

Please give accurate citations.

 

Odd… when you said " Here are some numbers from the American Heart Association on sugar"

you linked Mercola's interpretation of the numbers, not something 'from the American Heart Association'.  

 

Please give accurate citations.

 

Odd… when you said " Here are some numbers from the American Heart Association on sugar"

you linked Mercola's interpretation of the numbers, not something 'from the American Heart Association'.  

 

Please give accurate citations.

You misunderstand.

Try it this way….. would you (or Mercola) appreciate it if I indicated I was providing to link to his 'numbers' (or theories)  and instead linked the American Heart  Association's interpretation?

Some how I think not 

You misunderstand.

Try it this way….. would you (or Mercola) appreciate it if I indicated I was providing to link to his 'numbers' (or theories)  and instead linked the American Heart  Association's interpretation?

Some how I think not 

edit:      providing a link to his 'numbers' (or theories)..

edit:      providing a link to his 'numbers' (or theories)..

edit:      providing a link to his 'numbers' (or theories)..

You misunderstand.

Try it this way….. would you (or Mercola) appreciate it if I indicated I was providing to link to his 'numbers' (or theories)  and instead linked the American Heart  Association's interpretation?

Some how I think not