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Stage IV scan results, need your input please!

Forums General Melanoma Community Stage IV scan results, need your input please!

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    jessica_f
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      Hi everyone,

      I don't usually post, I'm more of a reader but I've run into an issue with my scan results. I'm a stage IV patient, dx initially in 2001 as a stage III. I had lung mets in 2015 which were resected and I followed up with 3 ipi infusions (never made it through my fourth as I developed colitis).

      I've beeen NED since Jan 16 but went to my onc last week with some troubling issues – confusion, problems with my short-term memory, numbness in both arms from my elbow down into my pinky and ring fingers. I have back pain all the way from my mid-back down to my lumbar region and my body twitches on occasion. 

      My onc sent me to the ER to get an MRI because it would be the fastest way to get results. The good news is that my brain looks fine. The bad news is that my spine has multiple lesions (looks like at least 6). My oncologist doesn't think that the lesions are melanoma – she's suggesting congenital or trauma. But I'm a little leery of her conclusion. From 2013 to 2015 we watched my metastatic lung nodes grow slowly, during which time she was convinced that they were benign granulomas.

      I really love my onc and have been with her for nearly 20 years; she has the best bedside manner of anyone in the business. But her strategy is to be non-alarmist and I fear that she's holding back on me until we have further evidence of growth. I had a CT of my chest, abdomen and pelvis last week and all was clear. I'm at NYU and thinking of getting a second opinion at Sloan re: my spine; any thoughts from the board would be appreciated.

      Best,

      Jessica

      Study Result

      IMPRESSION:

      Slight interval increase in size of an enhancing, sclerotic subcentimeter lesion within the T1 vertebral body, suspicious for metastatic disease.
      Additional 5 mm T7 superior endplate enhancing lesion, not definitively seen on the prior study, suspicious for metastasis.
      Additional small enhancing lesions within L1 and L3 vertebrae may represent additional foci of metastatic disease.
      Multiple other indeterminate vertebral body lesions as described above.
      No evidence of cord compression or epidural extension of neoplasm.
      Narrative
      Clinical history: Metastatic melanoma, presenting with right upper extremity radiculopathy and 2-4 weeks of confusion

      Technique: MRI examination of the entire spine was performed prior to and following administration of 5 cc Gadavist intravenous contrast.

      Comparison: MRI of the cervicothoracic spine from 12/9/2015. Comparison is made to multiple CT examinations of the chest, most recent from 7/13/2017

      Findings:
      Alignment throughout the cervical, thoracic and lumbar spine is maintained without evidence of listhesis. Vertebral body heights are preserved without evidence of acute compression deformity.

      There is a 9 x 8 mm homogeneously T1 hypointense, heterogeneously T2/STIR hyperintense, predominantly peripherally enhancing lesion within the T1 vertebral body. This lesion appears sclerotic on multiple prior chest CTs. Compared to the prior MRI given differences in technique, it appears slightly larger, previously measuring possibly 6 x 5 mm.

      There is additionally a 5 mm T1 hypointense, T2/STIR hyperintense enhancing lesion within the T7 superior endplate. It was not definitely seen on the prior examination.

      There is redemonstration of a T1/T2 hypointense, well-circumscribed sclerotic lesion within the left aspect of the C7 vertebral body, unchanged from prior examinations, and likely representative of a bone island. No associated enhancement is seen.

      Unchanged from the prior MRI is a nonspecific 7 mm STIR hyperintense lesion within the right facet of T2.

      There is an indeterminate, peripherally STIR hyperintense/enhancing lesion within the right T4 facet is noted.

      There is a 7 mm T1 hypointense, STIR hyperintense enhancing lesion within the L1 vertebral body. Additional questionable STIR hyperintense, possibly enhancing lesion measuring 6 mm within the L3 vertebral body.

      Evaluation of the cervical spine demonstrates no significant disc herniation, cord compression or neural foraminal narrowing.

      There are scattered mild degenerative changes throughout the thoracic spine. Visualized on sagittal images only, there is a right central disc herniation at T7-8 which appears to contact the ventral cord, with mild resultant canal stenosis.

      Evaluation of the lumbar spine on sagittal images demonstrates no large disc herniation, significant canal or neural foraminal stenosis.

      There is no signal abnormality identified within the spinal cord. No abnormal cord or intrathecal enhancement is seen. The conus medullaris terminates at the superior L2 level and is unremarkable in appearance.

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        SABKLYN
        Participant

          Hi Jessica,

          I think a second opinion is a good idea, if for nothing else to give you better assurance you’re on the right path with your current onc.  if they hold a different view then you’ll have other options to weigh. i’ve been a patient at Sloan after being initially diagnosed at Emory and very pleased with my care.  You’re the patient and the boss when it comes to your care.  the fact that you’re having reservations or questions regarding the current approach, i think ia second opinionwill give you peace of mind  and will get another set of eyes on your medical history

          Good luck!

            corgimom
            Participant

              I second that. A second opinion (and a third or more if needed) is an excellent idea. I have been a patient at MSK and could not be more pleased and I'm sure you will be, also.

            Bubbles
            Participant

              Jeffrey Weber is an international melanoma expert and is now at NYU.

                https://nyulangone.org/doctors/1053348706/jeffrey-s-weber

              I would seek a second opinion with him ASAP.  Chapman, Wolchok, or  Postow are excellent options at Sloan.  

              I certainly would not sit on this.  I wish  you my best.  Celeste

              bjeans
              Participant

                Jessica, while my husband is 3C, with excellent docs and care at a melanoma center, it is a comfort knowing that Dr. Weber isn’t all that far from the MD-VA-DC area if we ever needed a second opinion. We’d be all over Dr. Weber like lint on an old suit. (If you haven’t watched any of his video presentations, they give a sense of how he communicates.) 

                Trust yourself and the fine people here, good luck and please let us know how it goes. 

                Beth

                Mat.in.Brooklyn
                Participant

                  Hi Jessica.

                  If your gut is telling you to get a second opinion then it seems like a wise idea at least for peace of mind. I am at NYU as well (Dr. Weber). I'm wondering if there is a peer review and he wouldn't be available to take a look. Either way, it is an excellent idea.

                  Best to you,

                  Mat.

                   

                  lkb
                  Participant

                    Adding to the second-opinion rah-rah. I'm being treated at UCSF which has a great reputation, but I'm also seeking a second opinion at Dana Farber and UCLA, just to be sure. Even if the oncologists say the same thing, they will say it differently and I could learn more. Wishing you the best.

                    Momofjake
                    Participant

                      Hi there, 

                      i am with the rest. Get a specialist:) Jake had spine nets and with pembro+radiation they not only went away the bones healed. He also to Zometa infusions with his pembro. Soooo, if you do find it’s the melanoma junk back, you have good options there:) 

                      Sorry you’re not feeling well!!

                      Kerri

                      MelanomaMike
                      Participant
                        Hi Jessica, pleasure meeting you under GOD AWFULL circumstances (haha) but i digress..Sounds like that Dr. Weber guy (that Bubbless recommended) at your hospital is a great move! Get an appt to see him! I to am venturing off for a second opinion so, its OUR prerogative!! Our lives…be well..
                        JuTMSY4
                        Participant

                          I would get a second opinion.  Bone and spine mets are miserable and you'd probably like to seek some sort of treatment regardless, as soon as you can.  My experience has been that most oncologists err towards it being disease because of your proximity in time to melanoma recurrence (and stage IV recurrence at that).  I can see how an oncologist might be suspicious of a melanoma recurrence some 15 years later, but 1-2 years seems far more plausible (but always impossible to tell).

                          Still, it doesn't mean it's melanoma, but certainly, there's a decent chance it could be and is probably anyone's first guest as to how you developed lesions on your back.  Plus, your next treatment option (Pembro or Nivo most likely) is more benign than Ipi, so you might not have quite the wild ride you had before.  Speaking as someone who did Ipi and then Pembro.  

                          Good luck and I wish you the best!

                            WithinMySkin
                            Participant

                              Haven't seen you in awhile, Justin – hope you're doing well!!

                              Lauren

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