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- November 13, 2011 at 3:33 pm
As most of you know, October 31st was my 12 week scan after ipi. I had a 50% reduction of lung mets and some disappeared. I also had 2 that grew a tiny bit and we're not sure if it's inflammation as of yet. Anyway, I also have 2 new brain mets which get gamma knifed on Tuesday.
As most of you know, October 31st was my 12 week scan after ipi. I had a 50% reduction of lung mets and some disappeared. I also had 2 that grew a tiny bit and we're not sure if it's inflammation as of yet. Anyway, I also have 2 new brain mets which get gamma knifed on Tuesday.
So, this week was a pretty emotional week for me. I've been really tired all week which is unlike me. I used to get tired around noon and it lasted an hour, but now, I feel tired most of the day. I know Yervoy can cause fatigue – has anyone experienced this after treatment with ipi?? What else could be the reason I'm so tired? Other than this, I've got absolutely nothing going on symptom wise.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Lisa
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- November 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Hi, Lisa!
Well, I have to admit that some days I am so tired, I don't even get out of my PJ's! I just make sure the ones I have on are fit for company in case someone comes to the door. It just comes and goes in cycles. Sometimes I feel like a million bucks and it is very easy to believe that there is not a thing wrong with me. I just plan accordingly each day. I am very fortunate that I do not have to work (I don't think I could anyway) due to the generosity of my sister who provides shelter and utilities. My treatments are provided by the VA, which is such a blessing. And my teenage daughter has grown up feeling grateful for the smallest things.
I don't think this roller coaster ride is easy to deal with physically or emotionally, both of which can cause fatigue. I used to fight it and now I am in more of an acceptance mode. Last night I went to a concert nad had a blast. Today I rest!
Have a wonderful rest of your weekend, Lisa!
Cristy, Stage IV
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- November 13, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Hi Christy,
Sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued on Yervoy. I didn't have very much fatigue at all during my treatment, so I managed quite well and was able to keep up with my 2 year old daughter 🙂
I think I may be coming down with a cold which would explain why I feel tired. I'm sneezing and have a stuffy/runny nose which definately feels like a cold/allergies.
Lisa
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- November 13, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Hi Christy,
Sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued on Yervoy. I didn't have very much fatigue at all during my treatment, so I managed quite well and was able to keep up with my 2 year old daughter 🙂
I think I may be coming down with a cold which would explain why I feel tired. I'm sneezing and have a stuffy/runny nose which definately feels like a cold/allergies.
Lisa
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- November 13, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Lisa,
I was thinking I had a sinus issue and teeth problems. That was the hint to me about the brain met. Never thought this was a major problem.
I have found like the article that was linked that someone had linked. I am feeling the fatigue when I overdue. Yesterday we had a house full of company and have definitely paid for this today. Now my SRS is done and am on steroids so that could be part of the issues. Emotionally also can make your tired.
Linda
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- November 13, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Lisa,
I was thinking I had a sinus issue and teeth problems. That was the hint to me about the brain met. Never thought this was a major problem.
I have found like the article that was linked that someone had linked. I am feeling the fatigue when I overdue. Yesterday we had a house full of company and have definitely paid for this today. Now my SRS is done and am on steroids so that could be part of the issues. Emotionally also can make your tired.
Linda
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- November 13, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Lisa,
I was thinking I had a sinus issue and teeth problems. That was the hint to me about the brain met. Never thought this was a major problem.
I have found like the article that was linked that someone had linked. I am feeling the fatigue when I overdue. Yesterday we had a house full of company and have definitely paid for this today. Now my SRS is done and am on steroids so that could be part of the issues. Emotionally also can make your tired.
Linda
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- November 13, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Hi Christy,
Sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued on Yervoy. I didn't have very much fatigue at all during my treatment, so I managed quite well and was able to keep up with my 2 year old daughter 🙂
I think I may be coming down with a cold which would explain why I feel tired. I'm sneezing and have a stuffy/runny nose which definately feels like a cold/allergies.
Lisa
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- November 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Hi, Lisa!
Well, I have to admit that some days I am so tired, I don't even get out of my PJ's! I just make sure the ones I have on are fit for company in case someone comes to the door. It just comes and goes in cycles. Sometimes I feel like a million bucks and it is very easy to believe that there is not a thing wrong with me. I just plan accordingly each day. I am very fortunate that I do not have to work (I don't think I could anyway) due to the generosity of my sister who provides shelter and utilities. My treatments are provided by the VA, which is such a blessing. And my teenage daughter has grown up feeling grateful for the smallest things.
I don't think this roller coaster ride is easy to deal with physically or emotionally, both of which can cause fatigue. I used to fight it and now I am in more of an acceptance mode. Last night I went to a concert nad had a blast. Today I rest!
Have a wonderful rest of your weekend, Lisa!
Cristy, Stage IV
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- November 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Hi, Lisa!
Well, I have to admit that some days I am so tired, I don't even get out of my PJ's! I just make sure the ones I have on are fit for company in case someone comes to the door. It just comes and goes in cycles. Sometimes I feel like a million bucks and it is very easy to believe that there is not a thing wrong with me. I just plan accordingly each day. I am very fortunate that I do not have to work (I don't think I could anyway) due to the generosity of my sister who provides shelter and utilities. My treatments are provided by the VA, which is such a blessing. And my teenage daughter has grown up feeling grateful for the smallest things.
I don't think this roller coaster ride is easy to deal with physically or emotionally, both of which can cause fatigue. I used to fight it and now I am in more of an acceptance mode. Last night I went to a concert nad had a blast. Today I rest!
Have a wonderful rest of your weekend, Lisa!
Cristy, Stage IV
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- November 13, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Lisa,
It took me awhile to digest is that I'm both a melanoma patient, but subsequently also a brain tumor patient. Which you're seeing as you shuttle between the oncology and neurosurgery departments. It means two different sources of possible symptoms, including fatigue. National Brain Tumor Society has some info on fatigue from the neurological side. After having had several neurosurgical interventions, I've needed to really take it easy and not let myself get pushed into doing more than I should. I also had IPI so it's hard to separate what the effects might be from the two, but in my case I think that's from the multiple interventions. But it's something to keep in mind anyway as another reason to try to take it easy.
I don't know if youve seen this abstract about IPI benefits for brain tuomr patients: Outcomes of Melanoma Brain Metastasis Management with Gamma Knife Radiosurgery +/- Ipilimumab. In that context your response to IPI so far is something to "put in the bank".
– Kyle
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- November 13, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Lisa,
It took me awhile to digest is that I'm both a melanoma patient, but subsequently also a brain tumor patient. Which you're seeing as you shuttle between the oncology and neurosurgery departments. It means two different sources of possible symptoms, including fatigue. National Brain Tumor Society has some info on fatigue from the neurological side. After having had several neurosurgical interventions, I've needed to really take it easy and not let myself get pushed into doing more than I should. I also had IPI so it's hard to separate what the effects might be from the two, but in my case I think that's from the multiple interventions. But it's something to keep in mind anyway as another reason to try to take it easy.
I don't know if youve seen this abstract about IPI benefits for brain tuomr patients: Outcomes of Melanoma Brain Metastasis Management with Gamma Knife Radiosurgery +/- Ipilimumab. In that context your response to IPI so far is something to "put in the bank".
– Kyle
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- November 13, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Lisa,
It took me awhile to digest is that I'm both a melanoma patient, but subsequently also a brain tumor patient. Which you're seeing as you shuttle between the oncology and neurosurgery departments. It means two different sources of possible symptoms, including fatigue. National Brain Tumor Society has some info on fatigue from the neurological side. After having had several neurosurgical interventions, I've needed to really take it easy and not let myself get pushed into doing more than I should. I also had IPI so it's hard to separate what the effects might be from the two, but in my case I think that's from the multiple interventions. But it's something to keep in mind anyway as another reason to try to take it easy.
I don't know if youve seen this abstract about IPI benefits for brain tuomr patients: Outcomes of Melanoma Brain Metastasis Management with Gamma Knife Radiosurgery +/- Ipilimumab. In that context your response to IPI so far is something to "put in the bank".
– Kyle
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- November 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
Lisa, tiredness or fatigue can have a number of causes that may be physical, emotional
or medical in nature.As you have had an emotional week, it is certainly possible that at least some of your
tiredness could be caused by stress. From:
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Fatigue_explained
"Anxiety and stress – a person who is chronically anxious or stressed keeps their body
in overdrive. The constant flooding of adrenaline exhausts the body, and fatigue sets
in."I suppose that I have a special interest in this general area because of my own
experience with post-viral fatigue syndrome.Wishing you all the best for Tuesday.
Frank from Australia
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- November 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
Lisa, tiredness or fatigue can have a number of causes that may be physical, emotional
or medical in nature.As you have had an emotional week, it is certainly possible that at least some of your
tiredness could be caused by stress. From:
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Fatigue_explained
"Anxiety and stress – a person who is chronically anxious or stressed keeps their body
in overdrive. The constant flooding of adrenaline exhausts the body, and fatigue sets
in."I suppose that I have a special interest in this general area because of my own
experience with post-viral fatigue syndrome.Wishing you all the best for Tuesday.
Frank from Australia
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- November 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
Lisa, tiredness or fatigue can have a number of causes that may be physical, emotional
or medical in nature.As you have had an emotional week, it is certainly possible that at least some of your
tiredness could be caused by stress. From:
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Fatigue_explained
"Anxiety and stress – a person who is chronically anxious or stressed keeps their body
in overdrive. The constant flooding of adrenaline exhausts the body, and fatigue sets
in."I suppose that I have a special interest in this general area because of my own
experience with post-viral fatigue syndrome.Wishing you all the best for Tuesday.
Frank from Australia
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- November 14, 2011 at 2:49 am
Lisa,
I would be surprised if you weren't tired. You've had a very emotional week or so dealing with scan results, research, treatment decisions. appointments not to mention keeping up with a 2 year old. It very well could be the beginning of a cold (yuk) but I think stress would have to play a part in this. It wouldn't be normal not to be stressed right now. One day at a time and stay positive. Form your posts, you sound like a very positive person which will really help you with the challenge ahead.
Stay Strong
King
Stage IV 7/05 Liver mets
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- November 14, 2011 at 2:49 am
Lisa,
I would be surprised if you weren't tired. You've had a very emotional week or so dealing with scan results, research, treatment decisions. appointments not to mention keeping up with a 2 year old. It very well could be the beginning of a cold (yuk) but I think stress would have to play a part in this. It wouldn't be normal not to be stressed right now. One day at a time and stay positive. Form your posts, you sound like a very positive person which will really help you with the challenge ahead.
Stay Strong
King
Stage IV 7/05 Liver mets
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- November 14, 2011 at 2:49 am
Lisa,
I would be surprised if you weren't tired. You've had a very emotional week or so dealing with scan results, research, treatment decisions. appointments not to mention keeping up with a 2 year old. It very well could be the beginning of a cold (yuk) but I think stress would have to play a part in this. It wouldn't be normal not to be stressed right now. One day at a time and stay positive. Form your posts, you sound like a very positive person which will really help you with the challenge ahead.
Stay Strong
King
Stage IV 7/05 Liver mets
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- November 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Had a CBC recently? (Complete blood count)
What are your red and white blood cell count?
A complete blood count measures the amounts of three different types of cells in your blood:
- Red blood cells make up the largest component of the blood, and transport oxygen from the lungs throughout the rest of the body. They help provide energy and keep organs and tissues healthy. Hemoglobin is the protein contained in red blood cells that makes blood red. Hematocrit is the percentage of red cells in the bloodstream. If your hemoglobin or hematocrit level is too low, it is possible that you have anemia, which may cause you to feel tired or weak. Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, increased heart rate, difficulty staying warm, pale skin and dizziness or lightheadedness.
- White blood cells provide protection for the body against invasion from bacteria and viruses, and therefore, play a key role in the body’s immune system. Neutrophils, are a specific type of white blood cell. If your absolute neutrophil count (ANC) falls below normal range, you may have neutropenia, or a low white cell count, which can lower the body’s ability to fight infection.
- Platelets help the blood clot. They line the inside of the blood vessels and flow through the vessels as well. If you have low platelet counts, you may be at increased risk for bleeding or bruising.
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- November 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Had a CBC recently? (Complete blood count)
What are your red and white blood cell count?
A complete blood count measures the amounts of three different types of cells in your blood:
- Red blood cells make up the largest component of the blood, and transport oxygen from the lungs throughout the rest of the body. They help provide energy and keep organs and tissues healthy. Hemoglobin is the protein contained in red blood cells that makes blood red. Hematocrit is the percentage of red cells in the bloodstream. If your hemoglobin or hematocrit level is too low, it is possible that you have anemia, which may cause you to feel tired or weak. Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, increased heart rate, difficulty staying warm, pale skin and dizziness or lightheadedness.
- White blood cells provide protection for the body against invasion from bacteria and viruses, and therefore, play a key role in the body’s immune system. Neutrophils, are a specific type of white blood cell. If your absolute neutrophil count (ANC) falls below normal range, you may have neutropenia, or a low white cell count, which can lower the body’s ability to fight infection.
- Platelets help the blood clot. They line the inside of the blood vessels and flow through the vessels as well. If you have low platelet counts, you may be at increased risk for bleeding or bruising.
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- November 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Had a CBC recently? (Complete blood count)
What are your red and white blood cell count?
A complete blood count measures the amounts of three different types of cells in your blood:
- Red blood cells make up the largest component of the blood, and transport oxygen from the lungs throughout the rest of the body. They help provide energy and keep organs and tissues healthy. Hemoglobin is the protein contained in red blood cells that makes blood red. Hematocrit is the percentage of red cells in the bloodstream. If your hemoglobin or hematocrit level is too low, it is possible that you have anemia, which may cause you to feel tired or weak. Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, increased heart rate, difficulty staying warm, pale skin and dizziness or lightheadedness.
- White blood cells provide protection for the body against invasion from bacteria and viruses, and therefore, play a key role in the body’s immune system. Neutrophils, are a specific type of white blood cell. If your absolute neutrophil count (ANC) falls below normal range, you may have neutropenia, or a low white cell count, which can lower the body’s ability to fight infection.
- Platelets help the blood clot. They line the inside of the blood vessels and flow through the vessels as well. If you have low platelet counts, you may be at increased risk for bleeding or bruising.
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- November 14, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I no longer feel tired. I woke up in the middle of the night with a cold and definately feel it this morning. It's not too bad of a cold and I'm tolerating it quite well, but with the stress, this was bound to happen.
I went to the hospital this morning for another brain MRI, talk with the radiologist and a bit of education on Gamma Knife. Big day tomorrow – have to be there at 6:15am for gamma knife!
Lisa
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- November 14, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I no longer feel tired. I woke up in the middle of the night with a cold and definately feel it this morning. It's not too bad of a cold and I'm tolerating it quite well, but with the stress, this was bound to happen.
I went to the hospital this morning for another brain MRI, talk with the radiologist and a bit of education on Gamma Knife. Big day tomorrow – have to be there at 6:15am for gamma knife!
Lisa
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- November 14, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I no longer feel tired. I woke up in the middle of the night with a cold and definately feel it this morning. It's not too bad of a cold and I'm tolerating it quite well, but with the stress, this was bound to happen.
I went to the hospital this morning for another brain MRI, talk with the radiologist and a bit of education on Gamma Knife. Big day tomorrow – have to be there at 6:15am for gamma knife!
Lisa
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