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Thoughts – Scans before surgery???

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    jvictoria
    Participant

    Hello all,

    Melanoma Stage III, I have already distal thumb amputation and sentinel node which came back with two positive nodules.

    I'm currently scheduled for Lymphadenectomy 7/31 but have been told it would be a good idea to get scans (PET/MRI) done before; some doctors are saying do scans before, some say do it after surgery. Doing before would mean 3-4 week postponement of the Lymphadenectomy.

    Thoughts?

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      Janner
      Participant

      The reason you would want to do scans prior to surgery — if the melanoma has spread elsewhere, then maybe a systemic treatment would be used and surgery is unnecessary.  However, having a lymph node dissection is fairly standard most places in the US and some clinical trials might require it.   If the scans show you have no other disease, then you proceed as you have already planned.   So basically, scans before surgery would indicate whether you are really stage III versus stage IV.  Then you make surgery/treatment plans based on your staging.  Doing scans afterward is certainly done, but then you have no options whether or not to avoid the surgery.  Neither way is right or wrong, it's just what makes YOU the most comfortable.

      Janner
      Participant

      The reason you would want to do scans prior to surgery — if the melanoma has spread elsewhere, then maybe a systemic treatment would be used and surgery is unnecessary.  However, having a lymph node dissection is fairly standard most places in the US and some clinical trials might require it.   If the scans show you have no other disease, then you proceed as you have already planned.   So basically, scans before surgery would indicate whether you are really stage III versus stage IV.  Then you make surgery/treatment plans based on your staging.  Doing scans afterward is certainly done, but then you have no options whether or not to avoid the surgery.  Neither way is right or wrong, it's just what makes YOU the most comfortable.

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Thanks Janner…

        I'm leaning towards doing the scans prior to the lymph node dissection… But, I'm concerned about pushing the surgery out 3-4 weeks and the possibility of it spreading.

        Thanks for your insight!!!

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Thanks Janner…

        I'm leaning towards doing the scans prior to the lymph node dissection… But, I'm concerned about pushing the surgery out 3-4 weeks and the possibility of it spreading.

        Thanks for your insight!!!

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Thanks Janner…

        I'm leaning towards doing the scans prior to the lymph node dissection… But, I'm concerned about pushing the surgery out 3-4 weeks and the possibility of it spreading.

        Thanks for your insight!!!

      Janner
      Participant

      The reason you would want to do scans prior to surgery — if the melanoma has spread elsewhere, then maybe a systemic treatment would be used and surgery is unnecessary.  However, having a lymph node dissection is fairly standard most places in the US and some clinical trials might require it.   If the scans show you have no other disease, then you proceed as you have already planned.   So basically, scans before surgery would indicate whether you are really stage III versus stage IV.  Then you make surgery/treatment plans based on your staging.  Doing scans afterward is certainly done, but then you have no options whether or not to avoid the surgery.  Neither way is right or wrong, it's just what makes YOU the most comfortable.

      ed williams
      Participant

      Juan another way to look at the situation is if you do the scans first and they find something ie brain or major organ then they would start treating the whole body. After I had my lymph node removed back in 2012 the Oncologist wanted to wait about one month before starting Interferon to avoid infection risk. If you do scans after node removal, you would probably have to wait for treatment if they find something.One other thing to possible consider would be the European study, about whether it is better or not to do a complete lymph node removal, which was presented at the 2015 ASCO conference in Chicago. Wishing you the best !!! Ed  

      ed williams
      Participant

      Juan another way to look at the situation is if you do the scans first and they find something ie brain or major organ then they would start treating the whole body. After I had my lymph node removed back in 2012 the Oncologist wanted to wait about one month before starting Interferon to avoid infection risk. If you do scans after node removal, you would probably have to wait for treatment if they find something.One other thing to possible consider would be the European study, about whether it is better or not to do a complete lymph node removal, which was presented at the 2015 ASCO conference in Chicago. Wishing you the best !!! Ed  

      ed williams
      Participant

      Juan another way to look at the situation is if you do the scans first and they find something ie brain or major organ then they would start treating the whole body. After I had my lymph node removed back in 2012 the Oncologist wanted to wait about one month before starting Interferon to avoid infection risk. If you do scans after node removal, you would probably have to wait for treatment if they find something.One other thing to possible consider would be the European study, about whether it is better or not to do a complete lymph node removal, which was presented at the 2015 ASCO conference in Chicago. Wishing you the best !!! Ed  

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Ed. Thanks for the insight, had not thought of it in the way you described.

        Also, talked to a few doctors about the study you mention most of them are not comfortable with it yet mostly because of the size of the sample of people in the study.

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Ed. Thanks for the insight, had not thought of it in the way you described.

        Also, talked to a few doctors about the study you mention most of them are not comfortable with it yet mostly because of the size of the sample of people in the study.

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Ed. Thanks for the insight, had not thought of it in the way you described.

        Also, talked to a few doctors about the study you mention most of them are not comfortable with it yet mostly because of the size of the sample of people in the study.

      arthurjedi007
      Participant

      Not sure why the 3 to 4 week delay. In the USA my doc has got a pet and MRI approved by insurance in 2 days and scan on day 3 and he has the results if he wants that day or the day after. So max 5 days. Kind of pushing close to your surgery date but with the right doc and team it can be done. Thought I would mention it can be done.

      Artie

      arthurjedi007
      Participant

      Not sure why the 3 to 4 week delay. In the USA my doc has got a pet and MRI approved by insurance in 2 days and scan on day 3 and he has the results if he wants that day or the day after. So max 5 days. Kind of pushing close to your surgery date but with the right doc and team it can be done. Thought I would mention it can be done.

      Artie

      arthurjedi007
      Participant

      Not sure why the 3 to 4 week delay. In the USA my doc has got a pet and MRI approved by insurance in 2 days and scan on day 3 and he has the results if he wants that day or the day after. So max 5 days. Kind of pushing close to your surgery date but with the right doc and team it can be done. Thought I would mention it can be done.

      Artie

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Artie Thanks… Right now scheduled for Tuesday scans. Surgery at Moffitt on Friday. That would cut it very close.

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Artie Thanks… Right now scheduled for Tuesday scans. Surgery at Moffitt on Friday. That would cut it very close.

        jvictoria
        Participant

        Artie Thanks… Right now scheduled for Tuesday scans. Surgery at Moffitt on Friday. That would cut it very close.

        tschmith
        Participant

        I agree with Artie!

        Wishing you the best!

        Terrie

        tschmith
        Participant

        I agree with Artie!

        Wishing you the best!

        Terrie

        tschmith
        Participant

        I agree with Artie!

        Wishing you the best!

        Terrie

        tschmith
        Participant

        I agree with Artie!

        Wishing you the best!

        Terrie

        tschmith
        Participant

        I agree with Artie!

        Wishing you the best!

        Terrie

        tschmith
        Participant

        I agree with Artie!

        Wishing you the best!

        Terrie

      Marianne quinn
      Participant

      My husband had melanoma under the thumbnail. They did a PET scan before surgery. That did not delay the lymphendectomy . It was done 2 weeks after the SNB to allow time for the thumb to heal after the partial amputation. Scan on July 14'was NED . Last ipi infusion was early march 2014.,yippee!

      Marianne quinn
      Participant

      My husband had melanoma under the thumbnail. They did a PET scan before surgery. That did not delay the lymphendectomy . It was done 2 weeks after the SNB to allow time for the thumb to heal after the partial amputation. Scan on July 14'was NED . Last ipi infusion was early march 2014.,yippee!

      Marianne quinn
      Participant

      My husband had melanoma under the thumbnail. They did a PET scan before surgery. That did not delay the lymphendectomy . It was done 2 weeks after the SNB to allow time for the thumb to heal after the partial amputation. Scan on July 14'was NED . Last ipi infusion was early march 2014.,yippee!

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