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mixed scan results….I think

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    audgator
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      First let me say I know I am talking about very small lesions and some readers will be dealing with much scarier issues, but I also know they will not begrudge me my present apprehension. Two of the things I love about Moffitt are the friendly optimism of my oncologist and the fact she almost always gives me the results of my scans the same day. This time I scheduled my appointments over 2 days with the CT & MRI yesterday afternoon and consultation and infusion today. Due to backups in Radiology my MRI was not finished until 7 PM last night.

      First let me say I know I am talking about very small lesions and some readers will be dealing with much scarier issues, but I also know they will not begrudge me my present apprehension. Two of the things I love about Moffitt are the friendly optimism of my oncologist and the fact she almost always gives me the results of my scans the same day. This time I scheduled my appointments over 2 days with the CT & MRI yesterday afternoon and consultation and infusion today. Due to backups in Radiology my MRI was not finished until 7 PM last night. When I saw the doc this morning she did not have the report yet but had looked at the pix. She was pleased saying that my mets continue to shrink. She also points out that she is looking at the images in B&W on a 15" monitor and the radiologists have bigger & sharper screens. The trial coordinator brought in the report Just before we left but I did not read it until we got home.  So these are the sizes in mm with previous sizes in ( ): 4×1 (3×1);  5×3 (4×1);  5×3 (5×5); 5×4 (4×4).  OK so 2 are down but 2 are up which she did not mention.  We did talk about a splenic lesion that continues to grow and is at 2.1 cm now.  She does not think that will affect my trial eligibility and we will continue to watch it with the possibility of surgery if all goes well with the others.

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        POW
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          Dan, you scared me for a minute there. I thought you meant 4cm x 1cm! But you meant 4mm x 1mm. Whew!

          I think that the variation you see (+ or – 2 mm) is within the error of measurement for a CT scan. I do know that routine MRIs have a resolution of 5 mm because before his gamma knife surgery my brother had to have a special MRI with 1 mm resolution. And MRIs are more sensitive than are CT scans. Therefore, I'm not sure that anyone can say for certain if your tumors are growing or shrinking; they seem pretty stable to me. If your last scan was 3 months ago and your tumors are essentially unchanged now and you have no new tumors, I'd call that a great result! Congratulations!!  

          POW
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            Dan, you scared me for a minute there. I thought you meant 4cm x 1cm! But you meant 4mm x 1mm. Whew!

            I think that the variation you see (+ or – 2 mm) is within the error of measurement for a CT scan. I do know that routine MRIs have a resolution of 5 mm because before his gamma knife surgery my brother had to have a special MRI with 1 mm resolution. And MRIs are more sensitive than are CT scans. Therefore, I'm not sure that anyone can say for certain if your tumors are growing or shrinking; they seem pretty stable to me. If your last scan was 3 months ago and your tumors are essentially unchanged now and you have no new tumors, I'd call that a great result! Congratulations!!  

            POW
            Participant

              Dan, you scared me for a minute there. I thought you meant 4cm x 1cm! But you meant 4mm x 1mm. Whew!

              I think that the variation you see (+ or – 2 mm) is within the error of measurement for a CT scan. I do know that routine MRIs have a resolution of 5 mm because before his gamma knife surgery my brother had to have a special MRI with 1 mm resolution. And MRIs are more sensitive than are CT scans. Therefore, I'm not sure that anyone can say for certain if your tumors are growing or shrinking; they seem pretty stable to me. If your last scan was 3 months ago and your tumors are essentially unchanged now and you have no new tumors, I'd call that a great result! Congratulations!!  

              Bubbles
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                I know the main wish you must have is that all things considered measurable leasions would just EVAPORATE!!! However, in melanoma world…sounds like a basically stable report which is good! Dr. Weber has mentioned to me several times…not to mention what’s in the literature….that, like ipi, anti-PD1 can cause an inflammatory-like process in existing tumors that causes them to appear larger on scans before they demonstrate an ultimate reduction in size. (Not that your lesiions were appreciably larger…but still…) Hang in there! You got this!!! C

                PS Did you get the 6 vaccine injections every 2 weeks for the first 6 months? Or just 4? I saw that they deleted two of the vaccines on the protocol in (?) january?

                  audgator
                  Participant

                    My arm of the study did not get any vaccines.  Even so, I had to sign a new consent today because they dropped the vaccines you mentioned.

                    Thanks for the responses, all.  I feel comfortable now viewing this as a stable report which I will be happy with for the rest of my hopefully long life.

                    audgator
                    Participant

                      My arm of the study did not get any vaccines.  Even so, I had to sign a new consent today because they dropped the vaccines you mentioned.

                      Thanks for the responses, all.  I feel comfortable now viewing this as a stable report which I will be happy with for the rest of my hopefully long life.

                      audgator
                      Participant

                        My arm of the study did not get any vaccines.  Even so, I had to sign a new consent today because they dropped the vaccines you mentioned.

                        Thanks for the responses, all.  I feel comfortable now viewing this as a stable report which I will be happy with for the rest of my hopefully long life.

                      Bubbles
                      Participant
                        I know the main wish you must have is that all things considered measurable leasions would just EVAPORATE!!! However, in melanoma world…sounds like a basically stable report which is good! Dr. Weber has mentioned to me several times…not to mention what’s in the literature….that, like ipi, anti-PD1 can cause an inflammatory-like process in existing tumors that causes them to appear larger on scans before they demonstrate an ultimate reduction in size. (Not that your lesiions were appreciably larger…but still…) Hang in there! You got this!!! C

                        PS Did you get the 6 vaccine injections every 2 weeks for the first 6 months? Or just 4? I saw that they deleted two of the vaccines on the protocol in (?) january?

                        Bubbles
                        Participant
                          I know the main wish you must have is that all things considered measurable leasions would just EVAPORATE!!! However, in melanoma world…sounds like a basically stable report which is good! Dr. Weber has mentioned to me several times…not to mention what’s in the literature….that, like ipi, anti-PD1 can cause an inflammatory-like process in existing tumors that causes them to appear larger on scans before they demonstrate an ultimate reduction in size. (Not that your lesiions were appreciably larger…but still…) Hang in there! You got this!!! C

                          PS Did you get the 6 vaccine injections every 2 weeks for the first 6 months? Or just 4? I saw that they deleted two of the vaccines on the protocol in (?) january?

                          dellriol
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                            I've had a similar report in the past.  they told me that is especially common with smaller lesions,and it's simply because a different tech did it.  every tech measures a little differently so when it's that small you really notice it. Plus some lesions don't show clear edges so the measurement can vary because of that.

                             

                            dellriol
                            Participant

                              I've had a similar report in the past.  they told me that is especially common with smaller lesions,and it's simply because a different tech did it.  every tech measures a little differently so when it's that small you really notice it. Plus some lesions don't show clear edges so the measurement can vary because of that.

                               

                              dellriol
                              Participant

                                I've had a similar report in the past.  they told me that is especially common with smaller lesions,and it's simply because a different tech did it.  every tech measures a little differently so when it's that small you really notice it. Plus some lesions don't show clear edges so the measurement can vary because of that.

                                 

                                audgator
                                Participant

                                  ps: my wife reminds me that the doc did say "stable", not "shrinking".  Sorry.     Dan

                                  audgator
                                  Participant

                                    ps: my wife reminds me that the doc did say "stable", not "shrinking".  Sorry.     Dan

                                    audgator
                                    Participant

                                      ps: my wife reminds me that the doc did say "stable", not "shrinking".  Sorry.     Dan

                                      awillett1991
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                                        Stable is awesome. My scans seem to always have a little mystery to them. – lymph node here, something there, especially PET. I hate the big ones. Spleens are optional anyway I think, like so many other parts I thought were required!

                                        Congrats!

                                        awillett1991
                                        Participant
                                          Stable is awesome. My scans seem to always have a little mystery to them. – lymph node here, something there, especially PET. I hate the big ones. Spleens are optional anyway I think, like so many other parts I thought were required!

                                          Congrats!

                                          awillett1991
                                          Participant
                                            Stable is awesome. My scans seem to always have a little mystery to them. – lymph node here, something there, especially PET. I hate the big ones. Spleens are optional anyway I think, like so many other parts I thought were required!

                                            Congrats!

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