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Don’t know what to do – biopsy third melanoma in 11 years

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    Nicky
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      Hi everyone. Last week I posted that I had been for my routine checkup at a Skin clinic that has been monitoring me for some 6 years.  The GP found two suspicious moles but he said that he would wait and monitor them and see me again in 3 months and if there had been any changes.

      Hi everyone. Last week I posted that I had been for my routine checkup at a Skin clinic that has been monitoring me for some 6 years.  The GP found two suspicious moles but he said that he would wait and monitor them and see me again in 3 months and if there had been any changes.

      I have been Stage IIIB/C? since 2001 wherein I had a superficial spreading melanoma in situ on my right leg.  There was no regression and the tests were done twice.  Nine months later they found melanoma with a moderate mitotic rate in one of my lymph nodes in my right groin with extracapsulary spread.  They say that a thin melanoma shouldn't spread but it is a bit too coincidental given the area.   I  had radiation treatment for four weeks.  5 years later, this skin clinic GP found a Level 4 Desmoplastic melanoma on my left arm which is a rare type and low mitotic rate and tends to recur in the same spot and not often in the lymph nodes.  He referred me onto the PA Hospital in Brisbane which surgically removed a large chunk out of my arm followed by radiation treament.    At a routine visit to the Princess Alexandra Hospital in Brisbane last week I mentioned the two moles that the GP had found.  Anyway the Registrar called in the top boss and he suggested that my GP remove it at the clinic immediately.  My test results came back today and the mole that was removed on my upper back turned out to be a Level 1 superficial spreading melanoma.   I am so grateful that I told the hospital doctors about these moles.

      I have a routine appointment with the hospital at the end of the week and the GP is wanting to do further surgery himself to get better margins on the same day.  I know that it is a very thin melanoma but after my experience 11 years ago with a similar melanoma I am extremely anxious and would prefer to have the hospital take over my care and have at least some chest xrays and also  I wish I could have a sentinal node biopsy to check my lymph nodes.  I don't want to have again the wait and see attitude and lose another lymph node basin after suffering lymphoedema in my right leg with the removal of the nodes in my groin and many infections.

      I would appreciate any thoughts that anyone may have.  I know this is a thin melanoma but given my history, I am feeling a little concerned about my care.

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        Carol Taylor
        Participant

          Nicky,

          You pay the doctor. I suggest talking with him, leveling with him and telling him what you want and why you want it. You're very clear on both. And pursue what you need. Given your history, I'm puzzled as to why he isn't already setting all that up.

          And, if for whatever reason, he opts not to work with you, then I'd contact the hospital myself and get this ball rolling.

          All the best to you.

          Lord, in Your mercy. Amen.

          Grace and peace,

          Carol

          Carol Taylor
          Participant

            Nicky,

            You pay the doctor. I suggest talking with him, leveling with him and telling him what you want and why you want it. You're very clear on both. And pursue what you need. Given your history, I'm puzzled as to why he isn't already setting all that up.

            And, if for whatever reason, he opts not to work with you, then I'd contact the hospital myself and get this ball rolling.

            All the best to you.

            Lord, in Your mercy. Amen.

            Grace and peace,

            Carol

            lhaley
            Participant

              When you say "thin" melanoma, that's not enough information. How thin have they been?  SNB's are typically done around 1mm or larger unless they are ulcerated or have a high miotic rate.  This is definitley something I would discuss with your Dr before you go through with the wide excision. Once that's done the area has been compomised and the lymphatic pattern often changes.   Anotherwords, speak up for you beliefs.

              Years ago there was a study that said that people with multiple primaries actually lived longer. I don't know any particulares but it has been discussed over the years on this board. I believe it was about our immune system building up due to being able to fight the primaries.  Also, once you have multiples you tend to get everything checked out early!

              Good luck,

              Linda

              6 primaries, stage IV since 06

              lhaley
              Participant

                When you say "thin" melanoma, that's not enough information. How thin have they been?  SNB's are typically done around 1mm or larger unless they are ulcerated or have a high miotic rate.  This is definitley something I would discuss with your Dr before you go through with the wide excision. Once that's done the area has been compomised and the lymphatic pattern often changes.   Anotherwords, speak up for you beliefs.

                Years ago there was a study that said that people with multiple primaries actually lived longer. I don't know any particulares but it has been discussed over the years on this board. I believe it was about our immune system building up due to being able to fight the primaries.  Also, once you have multiples you tend to get everything checked out early!

                Good luck,

                Linda

                6 primaries, stage IV since 06

                FormerCaregiver
                Participant

                  I really feel that your GP should have referred you to an oncologist a long time ago. Any
                  form of melanoma needs specialist care. As you have been Stage IIIB/C? since 2001, you
                  really do need to insist on getting the best possible medical attention.

                  Can you give us any more info about the desmoplastic melanoma that was on your left arm?
                  From what I have read, it was a Clark's level 4 melanoma with a depth 3.55 mm.

                  Ideally, you should consult an oncologist who specialises in melanoma. They may advise you
                  to have a sentinel node biopsy. They could also recommend CT and PET scans to ease your
                  concerns. At the moment, I think that it is really important to make sure that there are
                  no hidden areas of metastases.

                  Best wishes

                  Frank from Australia

                  FormerCaregiver
                  Participant

                    I really feel that your GP should have referred you to an oncologist a long time ago. Any
                    form of melanoma needs specialist care. As you have been Stage IIIB/C? since 2001, you
                    really do need to insist on getting the best possible medical attention.

                    Can you give us any more info about the desmoplastic melanoma that was on your left arm?
                    From what I have read, it was a Clark's level 4 melanoma with a depth 3.55 mm.

                    Ideally, you should consult an oncologist who specialises in melanoma. They may advise you
                    to have a sentinel node biopsy. They could also recommend CT and PET scans to ease your
                    concerns. At the moment, I think that it is really important to make sure that there are
                    no hidden areas of metastases.

                    Best wishes

                    Frank from Australia

                    Janner
                    Participant

                      You know, since you have had multiple primaries, it is possible that you had a different primary (other than your in situ) spread to your groin nodes.  About 10% of the people here have unknown primaries meaning their primary that spread to their lymph nodes came from an unknown source (typically thought to be a regressed mole).  Since you know you can create multiple primaries, that still is a possibility.

                      As for having a SNB on your current in situ lesion, it seems like major overkill to me.  I, personally, wouldn't consider it.  (I also have had 3 primaries).  But I'm not into unnecessary surgery and the SNB itself could cause some lymphedema.  The SNB isn't 100% accurate and no guarantee against future spread.  Plenty of people here who had a negative SNB but later had a recurrence.  But it truthfully matters little what I would do, it matters what you want.  In situ basically has a 99% cure rate.  There are no blood vessels or lymph vessels in the epidermis (level 1).  So if the path report is accurate and everything is removed in the WLE, it really has no avenue to spread.

                      I know melanoma is much more common in Australia and GPs see it more than they do here in the US, but it does seem like with 3 primaries you could see a specialist.  I see a cutaneous oncologist just to monitor my skin.  And since you are stage III, it seems like someone other than a GP should be coordinating your care.  Certainly, your GP could order a chest X-Ray, but that would be more to monitor your stage III status than to indicate anything with this in situ lesion.  It seems like a melanoma oncologist would be a better choice for you.  Is there any way you can make the change yourself or explain to your GP that you'd prefer to see a specialist?

                      Best wishes,

                      Janner

                      Janner
                      Participant

                        You know, since you have had multiple primaries, it is possible that you had a different primary (other than your in situ) spread to your groin nodes.  About 10% of the people here have unknown primaries meaning their primary that spread to their lymph nodes came from an unknown source (typically thought to be a regressed mole).  Since you know you can create multiple primaries, that still is a possibility.

                        As for having a SNB on your current in situ lesion, it seems like major overkill to me.  I, personally, wouldn't consider it.  (I also have had 3 primaries).  But I'm not into unnecessary surgery and the SNB itself could cause some lymphedema.  The SNB isn't 100% accurate and no guarantee against future spread.  Plenty of people here who had a negative SNB but later had a recurrence.  But it truthfully matters little what I would do, it matters what you want.  In situ basically has a 99% cure rate.  There are no blood vessels or lymph vessels in the epidermis (level 1).  So if the path report is accurate and everything is removed in the WLE, it really has no avenue to spread.

                        I know melanoma is much more common in Australia and GPs see it more than they do here in the US, but it does seem like with 3 primaries you could see a specialist.  I see a cutaneous oncologist just to monitor my skin.  And since you are stage III, it seems like someone other than a GP should be coordinating your care.  Certainly, your GP could order a chest X-Ray, but that would be more to monitor your stage III status than to indicate anything with this in situ lesion.  It seems like a melanoma oncologist would be a better choice for you.  Is there any way you can make the change yourself or explain to your GP that you'd prefer to see a specialist?

                        Best wishes,

                        Janner

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