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    Claudia Cornwall
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      My husband's treatment with Pembrolizumab was successful, but he has become very depressed. The treatment did affect his thyroid and he does take synthroid now to replace what his body can't produce. According to recent blood tests, his thyroid level are now normal. However, he remains depressed.

      It is so weird, you'd think he'd be very happy to be in remission.

      Has anyone else run into this?

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        Mat
        Participant

          I don't have experience with depression, but as a Stage IV patient myself, I don't think the psychology is as simple as "I'm doing well on treatment (maybe even a complete responder) and therefore I'm happy".  Being diagnosed Stage IV is a traumatic psychological event from which many people will never fully recover in the sense of returning to one's old self.  In a sense, even complete responders can never truly rest easy with the confidence that the disease will never return.  Possibly not a helpful response, so I'll apologize in advance.  Happy Fourth.

            tschmith
            Participant

              I totally agree with Mat.  I'm NED for now after a successful year of Pembro.  I often thought of how over the moon happy I'd be if my doctor ever told me they couldn't find any evidence of disease, but when it actually happened I just sat there like a bump on a log and didn't say anything.  I finally asked him to repeat what he just said because I had almost as much trouble grasping NED as I did when I was told that I had Stage IV Melanoma. I've only known I was NED since mid-June, so that has something to do with it, but I think cancer is such a life changing experience and it's never far from your thoughts.  I feel best after I've walked on the treadmill for at least 45 minutes, when I can use what I've learned to help someone else, when I pray, and when I listen to my favorite music.  My doctors at NIH felt I needed to see a psychiatrist because a couple of months after treatment I still wasn't sleeping or eating and had a lot of anxiety.  I've been seeing the psychiatrist for over a year and it has really helped.  He first prescribed an antidepressant called Remeron which increased my appetite and helped me sleep.  He then took me off of Remeron because it had done it's job in the appetite department ๐Ÿ™‚ and put me on Prozac. I'm not saying every cancer patient needs to see a psychiatrist, but it helped me. I feel so much better but it's only natural to still worry…just not all the time or to the point where you feel so down that nothing really makes you happy.  It's kind of scary when they take you off of a drug that has saved your life. I know the cancer is probably still there microscopically and the question is will my immune system see it as the enemy. I think your husband should discuss his depression with his oncologist. Depression is certainly a side effect of a cancer diagnosis and the uncertainty of it all is hard to deal with. I hope somehow this helps because I really enjoy life in spite of and sometimes because of cancer and I wish your husband could too.  

              Best Wishes and Happy 4th…Terrie

              tschmith
              Participant

                I totally agree with Mat.  I'm NED for now after a successful year of Pembro.  I often thought of how over the moon happy I'd be if my doctor ever told me they couldn't find any evidence of disease, but when it actually happened I just sat there like a bump on a log and didn't say anything.  I finally asked him to repeat what he just said because I had almost as much trouble grasping NED as I did when I was told that I had Stage IV Melanoma. I've only known I was NED since mid-June, so that has something to do with it, but I think cancer is such a life changing experience and it's never far from your thoughts.  I feel best after I've walked on the treadmill for at least 45 minutes, when I can use what I've learned to help someone else, when I pray, and when I listen to my favorite music.  My doctors at NIH felt I needed to see a psychiatrist because a couple of months after treatment I still wasn't sleeping or eating and had a lot of anxiety.  I've been seeing the psychiatrist for over a year and it has really helped.  He first prescribed an antidepressant called Remeron which increased my appetite and helped me sleep.  He then took me off of Remeron because it had done it's job in the appetite department ๐Ÿ™‚ and put me on Prozac. I'm not saying every cancer patient needs to see a psychiatrist, but it helped me. I feel so much better but it's only natural to still worry…just not all the time or to the point where you feel so down that nothing really makes you happy.  It's kind of scary when they take you off of a drug that has saved your life. I know the cancer is probably still there microscopically and the question is will my immune system see it as the enemy. I think your husband should discuss his depression with his oncologist. Depression is certainly a side effect of a cancer diagnosis and the uncertainty of it all is hard to deal with. I hope somehow this helps because I really enjoy life in spite of and sometimes because of cancer and I wish your husband could too.  

                Best Wishes and Happy 4th…Terrie

                tschmith
                Participant

                  I totally agree with Mat.  I'm NED for now after a successful year of Pembro.  I often thought of how over the moon happy I'd be if my doctor ever told me they couldn't find any evidence of disease, but when it actually happened I just sat there like a bump on a log and didn't say anything.  I finally asked him to repeat what he just said because I had almost as much trouble grasping NED as I did when I was told that I had Stage IV Melanoma. I've only known I was NED since mid-June, so that has something to do with it, but I think cancer is such a life changing experience and it's never far from your thoughts.  I feel best after I've walked on the treadmill for at least 45 minutes, when I can use what I've learned to help someone else, when I pray, and when I listen to my favorite music.  My doctors at NIH felt I needed to see a psychiatrist because a couple of months after treatment I still wasn't sleeping or eating and had a lot of anxiety.  I've been seeing the psychiatrist for over a year and it has really helped.  He first prescribed an antidepressant called Remeron which increased my appetite and helped me sleep.  He then took me off of Remeron because it had done it's job in the appetite department ๐Ÿ™‚ and put me on Prozac. I'm not saying every cancer patient needs to see a psychiatrist, but it helped me. I feel so much better but it's only natural to still worry…just not all the time or to the point where you feel so down that nothing really makes you happy.  It's kind of scary when they take you off of a drug that has saved your life. I know the cancer is probably still there microscopically and the question is will my immune system see it as the enemy. I think your husband should discuss his depression with his oncologist. Depression is certainly a side effect of a cancer diagnosis and the uncertainty of it all is hard to deal with. I hope somehow this helps because I really enjoy life in spite of and sometimes because of cancer and I wish your husband could too.  

                  Best Wishes and Happy 4th…Terrie

                Mat
                Participant

                  I don't have experience with depression, but as a Stage IV patient myself, I don't think the psychology is as simple as "I'm doing well on treatment (maybe even a complete responder) and therefore I'm happy".  Being diagnosed Stage IV is a traumatic psychological event from which many people will never fully recover in the sense of returning to one's old self.  In a sense, even complete responders can never truly rest easy with the confidence that the disease will never return.  Possibly not a helpful response, so I'll apologize in advance.  Happy Fourth.

                  Mat
                  Participant

                    I don't have experience with depression, but as a Stage IV patient myself, I don't think the psychology is as simple as "I'm doing well on treatment (maybe even a complete responder) and therefore I'm happy".  Being diagnosed Stage IV is a traumatic psychological event from which many people will never fully recover in the sense of returning to one's old self.  In a sense, even complete responders can never truly rest easy with the confidence that the disease will never return.  Possibly not a helpful response, so I'll apologize in advance.  Happy Fourth.

                    paz58
                    Participant

                      I am in full remission from stage IV but am still on oral medications.  My doctor plans on stopping the drugs in December.  The thought of taking nothing frightens me and I'm concerned about becoming depressed as I was when I was stage 2C and was NED after the first surgery.  The uncertainty about my future and concern about a recurrence brought on depression.  This may be what is causing your husband's depression.  I hope the medication helps him.  I think with time he will deal with his uncertainties better and become accustomed to his health status.  Best wishes to you both.

                      Peggy

                       

                      paz58
                      Participant

                        I am in full remission from stage IV but am still on oral medications.  My doctor plans on stopping the drugs in December.  The thought of taking nothing frightens me and I'm concerned about becoming depressed as I was when I was stage 2C and was NED after the first surgery.  The uncertainty about my future and concern about a recurrence brought on depression.  This may be what is causing your husband's depression.  I hope the medication helps him.  I think with time he will deal with his uncertainties better and become accustomed to his health status.  Best wishes to you both.

                        Peggy

                         

                        paz58
                        Participant

                          I am in full remission from stage IV but am still on oral medications.  My doctor plans on stopping the drugs in December.  The thought of taking nothing frightens me and I'm concerned about becoming depressed as I was when I was stage 2C and was NED after the first surgery.  The uncertainty about my future and concern about a recurrence brought on depression.  This may be what is causing your husband's depression.  I hope the medication helps him.  I think with time he will deal with his uncertainties better and become accustomed to his health status.  Best wishes to you both.

                          Peggy

                           

                          kylez
                          Participant

                            Hi Claudia,

                            My cancer center has a 'psycho-oncology' clinic with psychologists/psychiatrists who specialize in helping with various issues that cancer patients may have. I wonder if there's anything like that around where you are? Like, this is the psycho-oncology clinic I've gone to.

                            – Kyle

                            kylez
                            Participant

                              Hi Claudia,

                              My cancer center has a 'psycho-oncology' clinic with psychologists/psychiatrists who specialize in helping with various issues that cancer patients may have. I wonder if there's anything like that around where you are? Like, this is the psycho-oncology clinic I've gone to.

                              – Kyle

                              kylez
                              Participant

                                Hi Claudia,

                                My cancer center has a 'psycho-oncology' clinic with psychologists/psychiatrists who specialize in helping with various issues that cancer patients may have. I wonder if there's anything like that around where you are? Like, this is the psycho-oncology clinic I've gone to.

                                – Kyle

                                LaurenE
                                Participant

                                  I'm actually a psychiatrist, though I am here strictly as a family member. I will weigh in to say that if you feel your husband is depressed that this is worth bringing up to your doctor. There are a lot of reasons he could be feeling down – the stress of his diagnosis/treatment, the disease/treatment (inflammatory states actually predispose you to depression – so your body's reaction to the cancer, immunotherapy, etc), other hormonal imbalances. Depression is more than just being sad, so can definitely interfere with one's ability to celebrate the victories of treatment and can also decrease motivation, enjoyment of things big and small, change sleep, appetite, concentration, value of life – potentially many many things! 

                                  It is not uncommon when dealing with everything that comes with cancer, but it's definitely treatable! Oncology clinics frequently have social workers, and even psychiatrists, available – so call in and let a nurse know, tell your doc at the next appointment, or all of the above! 

                                  LaurenE
                                  Participant

                                    I'm actually a psychiatrist, though I am here strictly as a family member. I will weigh in to say that if you feel your husband is depressed that this is worth bringing up to your doctor. There are a lot of reasons he could be feeling down – the stress of his diagnosis/treatment, the disease/treatment (inflammatory states actually predispose you to depression – so your body's reaction to the cancer, immunotherapy, etc), other hormonal imbalances. Depression is more than just being sad, so can definitely interfere with one's ability to celebrate the victories of treatment and can also decrease motivation, enjoyment of things big and small, change sleep, appetite, concentration, value of life – potentially many many things! 

                                    It is not uncommon when dealing with everything that comes with cancer, but it's definitely treatable! Oncology clinics frequently have social workers, and even psychiatrists, available – so call in and let a nurse know, tell your doc at the next appointment, or all of the above! 

                                    LaurenE
                                    Participant

                                      I'm actually a psychiatrist, though I am here strictly as a family member. I will weigh in to say that if you feel your husband is depressed that this is worth bringing up to your doctor. There are a lot of reasons he could be feeling down – the stress of his diagnosis/treatment, the disease/treatment (inflammatory states actually predispose you to depression – so your body's reaction to the cancer, immunotherapy, etc), other hormonal imbalances. Depression is more than just being sad, so can definitely interfere with one's ability to celebrate the victories of treatment and can also decrease motivation, enjoyment of things big and small, change sleep, appetite, concentration, value of life – potentially many many things! 

                                      It is not uncommon when dealing with everything that comes with cancer, but it's definitely treatable! Oncology clinics frequently have social workers, and even psychiatrists, available – so call in and let a nurse know, tell your doc at the next appointment, or all of the above! 

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