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Clinical trial vs IL2

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    Hstevens0072
    Participant
      My most recent PET showed multiple bilateral lung nodules. I’ve had the biopsy and we are waiting for the results – I’m hoping it was dust bunnies on the scanner. Dr Ibrahim is having it tested for BRAF gene. If it is positive she is suggesting I participate in a Single Arm Open-label Phase II study of Vemurafenib followed by Ipilimumab. My question is this, should I try the IL-2 before attempting the study? After reading multiple reports it sounds like if you do Ipilimumab you can’t then do INterluken but the reverse is not true. Any advice would be most welcome.

      My most recent PET showed multiple bilateral lung nodules. I’ve had the biopsy and we are waiting for the results – I’m hoping it was dust bunnies on the scanner. Dr Ibrahim is having it tested for BRAF gene. If it is positive she is suggesting I participate in a Single Arm Open-label Phase II study of Vemurafenib followed by Ipilimumab. My question is this, should I try the IL-2 before attempting the study? After reading multiple reports it sounds like if you do Ipilimumab you can’t then do INterluken but the reverse is not true. Any advice would be most welcome.

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        Janet Lee
        Participant

          I wish I had sonething to share with you. I noticed you mention Dr. Ibrahim, who is treating my husband, Don, at DFCI. I'm assuming it's the same melanoma oncologist. I will be looking forward to seeing helpful posts from others on this site, as there is so much to learn! Best of luck to you.

          Janet

          Janet Lee
          Participant

            I wish I had sonething to share with you. I noticed you mention Dr. Ibrahim, who is treating my husband, Don, at DFCI. I'm assuming it's the same melanoma oncologist. I will be looking forward to seeing helpful posts from others on this site, as there is so much to learn! Best of luck to you.

            Janet

            Janet Lee
            Participant

              I wish I had sonething to share with you. I noticed you mention Dr. Ibrahim, who is treating my husband, Don, at DFCI. I'm assuming it's the same melanoma oncologist. I will be looking forward to seeing helpful posts from others on this site, as there is so much to learn! Best of luck to you.

              Janet

              awillett1991
              Participant
                These are all FDA approved drugs so the decision is yours. I haven’t heard anything about not being able to do Ipi then Il 2, just maybe not in a trial, they have lots of rules.

                I did Zel 5 mos, stopped it, -> Ipi -> SRS -> Zel-> finished Ipi on time and still on Zel. Here is what I learned.

                Zel -> Ipi too quickly can often cause grade 3,& 4 rash adverse events. Somehow I avoided it. Ask their time frames for switching.

                Ipi & Zel together or Zel following Ipi quickly can lead to significant liver toxicity issues. I was also hospitalized for muscle pain so bad I could barely breathe. I believe they stopped the Zel + Ipi combo trials

                I was only on the 3 mg/kg dose of Ipi, but this appears to be 10 mg/kg. I’d ask if the side effects are worth it for the higher dose.

                Good luck!

                  Janet Lee
                  Participant

                    How long have you been treated altogether? Are you happy with Dr. Ibrahim?

                    Janet Lee
                    Participant

                      How long have you been treated altogether? Are you happy with Dr. Ibrahim?

                      Hstevens0072
                      Participant
                        I was diagnosed in Dec 2010 and started off with Dr Christopher Seidler at Harrington Hospital. He is affiliated with Umass in Worcester. I was, and still am, happy with his care but friends and family encouraged me to get a second opinion so I also have Dr Ibrahim. I like both of them very much – they are very much in sync about my course of treatment. I prefer to go to Dana Farber because the results are available so much faster and because the equipment at DF seems more state of the art. I have to admit the first time I had a PET at Harrington and it was in a huge tractor trailer that bounces all over MA and CT, well, it made me nervous. Are you happy with Dr Ibrahim?
                        Hstevens0072
                        Participant
                          I was diagnosed in Dec 2010 and started off with Dr Christopher Seidler at Harrington Hospital. He is affiliated with Umass in Worcester. I was, and still am, happy with his care but friends and family encouraged me to get a second opinion so I also have Dr Ibrahim. I like both of them very much – they are very much in sync about my course of treatment. I prefer to go to Dana Farber because the results are available so much faster and because the equipment at DF seems more state of the art. I have to admit the first time I had a PET at Harrington and it was in a huge tractor trailer that bounces all over MA and CT, well, it made me nervous. Are you happy with Dr Ibrahim?
                          Janet Lee
                          Participant

                            So far, we plan to stick with Dr. Ibrahim. We've only met her once, other appointment was covered by everyone but her. Getting the best and right treatment is what counts, and quickly! DFCI fits the bill. We had radiation and cyberknife in Worcester at St Vincent hospital, both supported by the team at Dana Farber.

                            P.S. I think I've been in that same PET Trailer when it's parked in Worcester!

                            Best of luck.

                            Janet

                            Janet Lee
                            Participant

                              So far, we plan to stick with Dr. Ibrahim. We've only met her once, other appointment was covered by everyone but her. Getting the best and right treatment is what counts, and quickly! DFCI fits the bill. We had radiation and cyberknife in Worcester at St Vincent hospital, both supported by the team at Dana Farber.

                              P.S. I think I've been in that same PET Trailer when it's parked in Worcester!

                              Best of luck.

                              Janet

                              Erinlisay38
                              Participant
                                I was also on that trailer in Worcester for my PET scan lol … and i also have been seein Dr Ibrahim since August … Ippi was my first treatment ,didn’t seem to help much tumors have all grown and I have new ones besides one small tumor shrunk a little so i dont know what to think … now tomorrow I am going to DF to start the PD1 trial fingers are crossed 🙂
                                Hstevens0072
                                Participant
                                  I’m wishing you the best of luck! I go to DF on Wednesday for biopsy results and treatment planning I hope/think/guess. The PD1 trial sounds very promising 🙂 wasn’t that trailer the weirdest thing? It was my first PET so I had no idea what to expect… But it certainly wasn’t that! I keep waiting for it to drive away with me locked inside!
                                  Erinlisay38
                                  Participant
                                    Thanks and yeah scans on a truck weird lol I’ve read pretty good things about the pd1 so I’m excited to start I was supposed to start last Friday but this nasty snow im not looking forward to the boring hour drive on rt 9 but im ready to go kick this beast melanomas butt lol I’m also wishing you luck for Wednesday hope the biopsy shows the results you are hoping for good luck !
                                    Erinlisay38
                                    Participant
                                      Thanks and yeah scans on a truck weird lol I’ve read pretty good things about the pd1 so I’m excited to start I was supposed to start last Friday but this nasty snow im not looking forward to the boring hour drive on rt 9 but im ready to go kick this beast melanomas butt lol I’m also wishing you luck for Wednesday hope the biopsy shows the results you are hoping for good luck !
                                      Erinlisay38
                                      Participant
                                        Thanks and yeah scans on a truck weird lol I’ve read pretty good things about the pd1 so I’m excited to start I was supposed to start last Friday but this nasty snow im not looking forward to the boring hour drive on rt 9 but im ready to go kick this beast melanomas butt lol I’m also wishing you luck for Wednesday hope the biopsy shows the results you are hoping for good luck !
                                        Hstevens0072
                                        Participant
                                          I’m wishing you the best of luck! I go to DF on Wednesday for biopsy results and treatment planning I hope/think/guess. The PD1 trial sounds very promising 🙂 wasn’t that trailer the weirdest thing? It was my first PET so I had no idea what to expect… But it certainly wasn’t that! I keep waiting for it to drive away with me locked inside!
                                          Hstevens0072
                                          Participant
                                            I’m wishing you the best of luck! I go to DF on Wednesday for biopsy results and treatment planning I hope/think/guess. The PD1 trial sounds very promising 🙂 wasn’t that trailer the weirdest thing? It was my first PET so I had no idea what to expect… But it certainly wasn’t that! I keep waiting for it to drive away with me locked inside!
                                            Erinlisay38
                                            Participant
                                              I was also on that trailer in Worcester for my PET scan lol … and i also have been seein Dr Ibrahim since August … Ippi was my first treatment ,didn’t seem to help much tumors have all grown and I have new ones besides one small tumor shrunk a little so i dont know what to think … now tomorrow I am going to DF to start the PD1 trial fingers are crossed 🙂
                                              Erinlisay38
                                              Participant
                                                I was also on that trailer in Worcester for my PET scan lol … and i also have been seein Dr Ibrahim since August … Ippi was my first treatment ,didn’t seem to help much tumors have all grown and I have new ones besides one small tumor shrunk a little so i dont know what to think … now tomorrow I am going to DF to start the PD1 trial fingers are crossed 🙂
                                                Janet Lee
                                                Participant

                                                  So far, we plan to stick with Dr. Ibrahim. We've only met her once, other appointment was covered by everyone but her. Getting the best and right treatment is what counts, and quickly! DFCI fits the bill. We had radiation and cyberknife in Worcester at St Vincent hospital, both supported by the team at Dana Farber.

                                                  P.S. I think I've been in that same PET Trailer when it's parked in Worcester!

                                                  Best of luck.

                                                  Janet

                                                  Hstevens0072
                                                  Participant
                                                    I was diagnosed in Dec 2010 and started off with Dr Christopher Seidler at Harrington Hospital. He is affiliated with Umass in Worcester. I was, and still am, happy with his care but friends and family encouraged me to get a second opinion so I also have Dr Ibrahim. I like both of them very much – they are very much in sync about my course of treatment. I prefer to go to Dana Farber because the results are available so much faster and because the equipment at DF seems more state of the art. I have to admit the first time I had a PET at Harrington and it was in a huge tractor trailer that bounces all over MA and CT, well, it made me nervous. Are you happy with Dr Ibrahim?
                                                    Janet Lee
                                                    Participant

                                                      How long have you been treated altogether? Are you happy with Dr. Ibrahim?

                                                      Hstevens0072
                                                      Participant
                                                        Thank you. I hadn’t considered asking about dosages but now I will. After reading the entire trial application I may be more frightened of the side effects than the cancer.
                                                        Hstevens0072
                                                        Participant
                                                          Thank you. I hadn’t considered asking about dosages but now I will. After reading the entire trial application I may be more frightened of the side effects than the cancer.
                                                          Hstevens0072
                                                          Participant
                                                            Thank you. I hadn’t considered asking about dosages but now I will. After reading the entire trial application I may be more frightened of the side effects than the cancer.
                                                          awillett1991
                                                          Participant
                                                            These are all FDA approved drugs so the decision is yours. I haven’t heard anything about not being able to do Ipi then Il 2, just maybe not in a trial, they have lots of rules.

                                                            I did Zel 5 mos, stopped it, -> Ipi -> SRS -> Zel-> finished Ipi on time and still on Zel. Here is what I learned.

                                                            Zel -> Ipi too quickly can often cause grade 3,& 4 rash adverse events. Somehow I avoided it. Ask their time frames for switching.

                                                            Ipi & Zel together or Zel following Ipi quickly can lead to significant liver toxicity issues. I was also hospitalized for muscle pain so bad I could barely breathe. I believe they stopped the Zel + Ipi combo trials

                                                            I was only on the 3 mg/kg dose of Ipi, but this appears to be 10 mg/kg. I’d ask if the side effects are worth it for the higher dose.

                                                            Good luck!

                                                            awillett1991
                                                            Participant
                                                              These are all FDA approved drugs so the decision is yours. I haven’t heard anything about not being able to do Ipi then Il 2, just maybe not in a trial, they have lots of rules.

                                                              I did Zel 5 mos, stopped it, -> Ipi -> SRS -> Zel-> finished Ipi on time and still on Zel. Here is what I learned.

                                                              Zel -> Ipi too quickly can often cause grade 3,& 4 rash adverse events. Somehow I avoided it. Ask their time frames for switching.

                                                              Ipi & Zel together or Zel following Ipi quickly can lead to significant liver toxicity issues. I was also hospitalized for muscle pain so bad I could barely breathe. I believe they stopped the Zel + Ipi combo trials

                                                              I was only on the 3 mg/kg dose of Ipi, but this appears to be 10 mg/kg. I’d ask if the side effects are worth it for the higher dose.

                                                              Good luck!

                                                              ad2424
                                                              Participant

                                                                I also (possibly) have multiple bilateral lung nodules. I say possibly because they have been stable for a year and perhaps they are non viable. I did IL-2 because I was in good shape, the nodules were small and I felt that I had time if it failed to do other therapies.

                                                                IL-2 is difficult but doable.

                                                                  Hstevens0072
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Thank you for the response.  Did you do interferon prior to the IL-2?  Just wondering how/if it compares.  Did you work during the time you were treated with IL-2 – during the break between treatments?  Stable for a year – that sounds great.  I wish you continued success!

                                                                    Hstevens0072
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      Thank you for the response.  Did you do interferon prior to the IL-2?  Just wondering how/if it compares.  Did you work during the time you were treated with IL-2 – during the break between treatments?  Stable for a year – that sounds great.  I wish you continued success!

                                                                      Hstevens0072
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        Thank you for the response.  Did you do interferon prior to the IL-2?  Just wondering how/if it compares.  Did you work during the time you were treated with IL-2 – during the break between treatments?  Stable for a year – that sounds great.  I wish you continued success!

                                                                        Hstevens0072
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Thank you for the response.  Did you do interferon prior to the IL-2?  Just wondering how/if it compares.  Did you work during the time you were treated with IL-2 – during the break between treatments?  Stable for a year – that sounds great.  I wish you continued success!

                                                                          Hstevens0072
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            Thank you for the response.  Did you do interferon prior to the IL-2?  Just wondering how/if it compares.  Did you work during the time you were treated with IL-2 – during the break between treatments?  Stable for a year – that sounds great.  I wish you continued success!

                                                                            ad2424
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Thank you.

                                                                              I did not do interferon.

                                                                              The first week after treatment it was more comfortable to work from home, although I may have gone in a day or two by the end of that first week.

                                                                              Feel free to ask any other questions.

                                                                              ad2424
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Thank you.

                                                                                I did not do interferon.

                                                                                The first week after treatment it was more comfortable to work from home, although I may have gone in a day or two by the end of that first week.

                                                                                Feel free to ask any other questions.

                                                                                ad2424
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  Thank you.

                                                                                  I did not do interferon.

                                                                                  The first week after treatment it was more comfortable to work from home, although I may have gone in a day or two by the end of that first week.

                                                                                  Feel free to ask any other questions.

                                                                                  Hstevens0072
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    Thank you for the response.  Did you do interferon prior to the IL-2?  Just wondering how/if it compares.  Did you work during the time you were treated with IL-2 – during the break between treatments?  Stable for a year – that sounds great.  I wish you continued success!

                                                                                  ad2424
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    I also (possibly) have multiple bilateral lung nodules. I say possibly because they have been stable for a year and perhaps they are non viable. I did IL-2 because I was in good shape, the nodules were small and I felt that I had time if it failed to do other therapies.

                                                                                    IL-2 is difficult but doable.

                                                                                    ad2424
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      I also (possibly) have multiple bilateral lung nodules. I say possibly because they have been stable for a year and perhaps they are non viable. I did IL-2 because I was in good shape, the nodules were small and I felt that I had time if it failed to do other therapies.

                                                                                      IL-2 is difficult but doable.

                                                                                      TSchulz
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        Personally, I would try IL-2 (like I did) before trying other treatments.  Especially if you are physically able and your disease is not currently rapidly progressing, life threatening, or causing you tons of pain.   If it works for you, you may have a long term durable response and not have to worry about medications and treatments in the future.  If it doesn't, you have not closed any doors to other treatment options.  It is difficult, very difficult, but most treatment centers who do HD IL-2 are very good at getting people through it.  

                                                                                        For me, I am trying to avoid using the BRAF inhibitors for as long as possible – in any form.  While we need people to enroll in trials combining medications and different regimens,  I feel that if my disease is stable enough I would take every shot at long term, durable response and not taking pills everyday. 

                                                                                        Also, why is she suggesting only this trial when the PD-1 trials seem to be progessing with such good results?

                                                                                        Good luck, these decisions are so hard.

                                                                                        Best, Troy

                                                                                          Hstevens0072
                                                                                          Participant
                                                                                            Hi Troy,

                                                                                            Received test results today and I am negative for BRAF. Ipilimumab is scheduled to start March1 but in the meantime Dr I is trying to get me into a PD1trial.
                                                                                            We talked about INterluken but for now I think I’ll try something else.

                                                                                            These decisions are indeed hard. Here’s hoping I’ve made the right one.

                                                                                            Holly

                                                                                            Hstevens0072
                                                                                            Participant
                                                                                              Hi Troy,

                                                                                              Received test results today and I am negative for BRAF. Ipilimumab is scheduled to start March1 but in the meantime Dr I is trying to get me into a PD1trial.
                                                                                              We talked about INterluken but for now I think I’ll try something else.

                                                                                              These decisions are indeed hard. Here’s hoping I’ve made the right one.

                                                                                              Holly

                                                                                              Hstevens0072
                                                                                              Participant
                                                                                                Hi Troy,

                                                                                                Received test results today and I am negative for BRAF. Ipilimumab is scheduled to start March1 but in the meantime Dr I is trying to get me into a PD1trial.
                                                                                                We talked about INterluken but for now I think I’ll try something else.

                                                                                                These decisions are indeed hard. Here’s hoping I’ve made the right one.

                                                                                                Holly

                                                                                              TSchulz
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                Personally, I would try IL-2 (like I did) before trying other treatments.  Especially if you are physically able and your disease is not currently rapidly progressing, life threatening, or causing you tons of pain.   If it works for you, you may have a long term durable response and not have to worry about medications and treatments in the future.  If it doesn't, you have not closed any doors to other treatment options.  It is difficult, very difficult, but most treatment centers who do HD IL-2 are very good at getting people through it.  

                                                                                                For me, I am trying to avoid using the BRAF inhibitors for as long as possible – in any form.  While we need people to enroll in trials combining medications and different regimens,  I feel that if my disease is stable enough I would take every shot at long term, durable response and not taking pills everyday. 

                                                                                                Also, why is she suggesting only this trial when the PD-1 trials seem to be progessing with such good results?

                                                                                                Good luck, these decisions are so hard.

                                                                                                Best, Troy

                                                                                                TSchulz
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  Personally, I would try IL-2 (like I did) before trying other treatments.  Especially if you are physically able and your disease is not currently rapidly progressing, life threatening, or causing you tons of pain.   If it works for you, you may have a long term durable response and not have to worry about medications and treatments in the future.  If it doesn't, you have not closed any doors to other treatment options.  It is difficult, very difficult, but most treatment centers who do HD IL-2 are very good at getting people through it.  

                                                                                                  For me, I am trying to avoid using the BRAF inhibitors for as long as possible – in any form.  While we need people to enroll in trials combining medications and different regimens,  I feel that if my disease is stable enough I would take every shot at long term, durable response and not taking pills everyday. 

                                                                                                  Also, why is she suggesting only this trial when the PD-1 trials seem to be progessing with such good results?

                                                                                                  Good luck, these decisions are so hard.

                                                                                                  Best, Troy

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