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- January 15, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Hello all,
My sons slides were sent to Sloan Kettering for expert opinion. Sloan then sent the slides out for a FISH analysis.
I received results today and now I am even more confused. The new diagnosis is "atypical compound spitz tumor, irritated; transected". Is that the same thing as the first diagnosis?
Hello all,
My sons slides were sent to Sloan Kettering for expert opinion. Sloan then sent the slides out for a FISH analysis.
I received results today and now I am even more confused. The new diagnosis is "atypical compound spitz tumor, irritated; transected". Is that the same thing as the first diagnosis?
The report then goes on to say that the negative FISH test is re-assuring, but sue to the limitations in the sensitivity of the test, a negative result is not entirely definitive. The pathologist goes on to say the a re-excision is strongly recommended along with a sentinel lymph node biopsy. He also stated "I would also like to state that aspect of the diagnostic challenge (and hesitation to establish a definitive diagnosis) is the fact that we only see the superficial portion of an incompletely removed lesion. We would appreciate the opportunity to review the completely excised tumor, since features of the residual tumor may be relevant for the final diagnosis."
That's not all of the report but it seems very indecisive.
Thoughts?
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- January 15, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Hi
I am glad to see that Sloan requested the FISH test. Remember that the FISH test has 100% sensitivity (if the sample is melanoma, the test will detect melanoma 100% of the time) but it does not have 100% specificity. Sometimes it will fail to detect melanoma and instead classify the sample as Spitz. Thus, in some small percent of cases like your son's, the test will say "No melanoma" when in fact there is melanoma. This is why there is uncertainty, but looking on the bright side, odds are that your son's "mole" is a Spitz nevus. Most of the time, the FISH test is correct.
I would err on the side of safety and have the re-excision with sentinel lymph node biopsy. If anything shows up in the lymph node then there is more to test with the FISH assay. Hopefully nothing will show up and then you will have that peace of mind. Our son has recovered faster than expected from each surgery (three); your son is likely tougher than you image (ours has been!!). I realize this is a lot for a little guy. For us, we needed to feel like we did everything possible so that if melanoma ever comes back, we won't regret not doing what we could at the time.
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- January 15, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Hi
I am glad to see that Sloan requested the FISH test. Remember that the FISH test has 100% sensitivity (if the sample is melanoma, the test will detect melanoma 100% of the time) but it does not have 100% specificity. Sometimes it will fail to detect melanoma and instead classify the sample as Spitz. Thus, in some small percent of cases like your son's, the test will say "No melanoma" when in fact there is melanoma. This is why there is uncertainty, but looking on the bright side, odds are that your son's "mole" is a Spitz nevus. Most of the time, the FISH test is correct.
I would err on the side of safety and have the re-excision with sentinel lymph node biopsy. If anything shows up in the lymph node then there is more to test with the FISH assay. Hopefully nothing will show up and then you will have that peace of mind. Our son has recovered faster than expected from each surgery (three); your son is likely tougher than you image (ours has been!!). I realize this is a lot for a little guy. For us, we needed to feel like we did everything possible so that if melanoma ever comes back, we won't regret not doing what we could at the time.
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- January 15, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Hi
I am glad to see that Sloan requested the FISH test. Remember that the FISH test has 100% sensitivity (if the sample is melanoma, the test will detect melanoma 100% of the time) but it does not have 100% specificity. Sometimes it will fail to detect melanoma and instead classify the sample as Spitz. Thus, in some small percent of cases like your son's, the test will say "No melanoma" when in fact there is melanoma. This is why there is uncertainty, but looking on the bright side, odds are that your son's "mole" is a Spitz nevus. Most of the time, the FISH test is correct.
I would err on the side of safety and have the re-excision with sentinel lymph node biopsy. If anything shows up in the lymph node then there is more to test with the FISH assay. Hopefully nothing will show up and then you will have that peace of mind. Our son has recovered faster than expected from each surgery (three); your son is likely tougher than you image (ours has been!!). I realize this is a lot for a little guy. For us, we needed to feel like we did everything possible so that if melanoma ever comes back, we won't regret not doing what we could at the time.
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- January 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm
I think that they don't really think this is melanoma based upon the path and testing, but the testing only includes a small sample of tissue. Pathology reports typically err on the side of caution if there is any possibility of multiple diagnoses. Since the tumor is not completely removed, they cannot rule out melanoma in the remaining tissue. Since the SNB ideally needs to be done before the wide excision, that is why they are recommonding your son do both as the next step. So while all signs are currently saying benign, they are recommending treatment based on worst case scenario since the entire lesion hasn't been analyzed. Not necessarily comforting, but erring on the side of caution which is how most of us would like to treated.
Best wishes,
Janner
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- January 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm
I think that they don't really think this is melanoma based upon the path and testing, but the testing only includes a small sample of tissue. Pathology reports typically err on the side of caution if there is any possibility of multiple diagnoses. Since the tumor is not completely removed, they cannot rule out melanoma in the remaining tissue. Since the SNB ideally needs to be done before the wide excision, that is why they are recommonding your son do both as the next step. So while all signs are currently saying benign, they are recommending treatment based on worst case scenario since the entire lesion hasn't been analyzed. Not necessarily comforting, but erring on the side of caution which is how most of us would like to treated.
Best wishes,
Janner
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- January 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm
I think that they don't really think this is melanoma based upon the path and testing, but the testing only includes a small sample of tissue. Pathology reports typically err on the side of caution if there is any possibility of multiple diagnoses. Since the tumor is not completely removed, they cannot rule out melanoma in the remaining tissue. Since the SNB ideally needs to be done before the wide excision, that is why they are recommonding your son do both as the next step. So while all signs are currently saying benign, they are recommending treatment based on worst case scenario since the entire lesion hasn't been analyzed. Not necessarily comforting, but erring on the side of caution which is how most of us would like to treated.
Best wishes,
Janner
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