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Upcoming Excision and Sentinel Node Biopsy

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    Aloha14
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      I was recently diagnosed with a lower leg melanoma after having a shave biopsy, and never had any cancer before so this has been really scary. I'm glad to find this forum. I met with the surgeons (Melanoma Specialist/Director Surgical Oncology) yesterday and I'm scheduled for surgery this Friday. The procedures were explained to me but of course I've got more questions. 

      I'm  wondering about how much pain to expect after these surgeries? Did anyone require heavy pain meds and for how long? Also, for the test to find the lymph nodes does it require going inside a tube like an MRI does? I wonder how the doctors know where to cut for the excision without films to go by?

      Thanks for anyone that can help answer these questions or give me more information about their experience. 

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        JayArr
        Participant

          Hi,

          Sorry to hear, I know this is a frightening time, I went through very similar experience last year. This is a great place for support, please ask as many questions as you want. What is your diagnosis at this point? Can you tell us a little about yourself?

          Last year I had a suspicious mole removed that turned out to be Stage 1B, on my chest below my right pectoral. Shortly after that I had the WLE (Wide Local Excision) and SLNB (Sentinel Lymph Node Biopsy). I'm located in Canada so I don't know if the treatment will be the exact same for you, but I can tell you what happened for me.

          My experience was that there was not a substantial amount of pain from either location. The larger one (WLE site) had a bit more pain. There was just a general pain (obviously) and occasionally very sharp shooting pains from the WLE site, sometimes accompanying movement and sometimes not. I was sent home with Tramacet (acetomenaphen & tramadol I believe, not sure if that's the same as Tylenol 3's or not). But all in all, not too bad and definitely not as bad as I was expecting. When it bothered me I I took a pill but honestly I didn't find that I needed them very often. Almost a year late, I still have mild loss of feeling around the SNLB site, as well as slight tingly feeling, but I was told that was to be expected so it hasn't been a surprise.

          If I recall correctly, for the SNLB, they inject you at the primary meloma location with a dye that is colored as well as radioactive. I don't recall if my doctors used them but I believe they have handheld radioactivity detectors, forget what they're called, that tell them approximately where the lymph node is. However even before the surgery started, back when I had the dye injected, I did also go for a CT scan and had the location marked on me. Then once they're in they visually identify the nodes as well because they are colored by the dye. FYI the dye can also color & stink up your urine for a day or two, at least it did for me.

          Thinking about you, please let us know how it goes.

          JayArr
          Participant

            Hi,

            Sorry to hear, I know this is a frightening time, I went through very similar experience last year. This is a great place for support, please ask as many questions as you want. What is your diagnosis at this point? Can you tell us a little about yourself?

            Last year I had a suspicious mole removed that turned out to be Stage 1B, on my chest below my right pectoral. Shortly after that I had the WLE (Wide Local Excision) and SLNB (Sentinel Lymph Node Biopsy). I'm located in Canada so I don't know if the treatment will be the exact same for you, but I can tell you what happened for me.

            My experience was that there was not a substantial amount of pain from either location. The larger one (WLE site) had a bit more pain. There was just a general pain (obviously) and occasionally very sharp shooting pains from the WLE site, sometimes accompanying movement and sometimes not. I was sent home with Tramacet (acetomenaphen & tramadol I believe, not sure if that's the same as Tylenol 3's or not). But all in all, not too bad and definitely not as bad as I was expecting. When it bothered me I I took a pill but honestly I didn't find that I needed them very often. Almost a year late, I still have mild loss of feeling around the SNLB site, as well as slight tingly feeling, but I was told that was to be expected so it hasn't been a surprise.

            If I recall correctly, for the SNLB, they inject you at the primary meloma location with a dye that is colored as well as radioactive. I don't recall if my doctors used them but I believe they have handheld radioactivity detectors, forget what they're called, that tell them approximately where the lymph node is. However even before the surgery started, back when I had the dye injected, I did also go for a CT scan and had the location marked on me. Then once they're in they visually identify the nodes as well because they are colored by the dye. FYI the dye can also color & stink up your urine for a day or two, at least it did for me.

            Thinking about you, please let us know how it goes.

            JayArr
            Participant

              Hi,

              Sorry to hear, I know this is a frightening time, I went through very similar experience last year. This is a great place for support, please ask as many questions as you want. What is your diagnosis at this point? Can you tell us a little about yourself?

              Last year I had a suspicious mole removed that turned out to be Stage 1B, on my chest below my right pectoral. Shortly after that I had the WLE (Wide Local Excision) and SLNB (Sentinel Lymph Node Biopsy). I'm located in Canada so I don't know if the treatment will be the exact same for you, but I can tell you what happened for me.

              My experience was that there was not a substantial amount of pain from either location. The larger one (WLE site) had a bit more pain. There was just a general pain (obviously) and occasionally very sharp shooting pains from the WLE site, sometimes accompanying movement and sometimes not. I was sent home with Tramacet (acetomenaphen & tramadol I believe, not sure if that's the same as Tylenol 3's or not). But all in all, not too bad and definitely not as bad as I was expecting. When it bothered me I I took a pill but honestly I didn't find that I needed them very often. Almost a year late, I still have mild loss of feeling around the SNLB site, as well as slight tingly feeling, but I was told that was to be expected so it hasn't been a surprise.

              If I recall correctly, for the SNLB, they inject you at the primary meloma location with a dye that is colored as well as radioactive. I don't recall if my doctors used them but I believe they have handheld radioactivity detectors, forget what they're called, that tell them approximately where the lymph node is. However even before the surgery started, back when I had the dye injected, I did also go for a CT scan and had the location marked on me. Then once they're in they visually identify the nodes as well because they are colored by the dye. FYI the dye can also color & stink up your urine for a day or two, at least it did for me.

              Thinking about you, please let us know how it goes.

              jvictoria
              Participant

                Hi Aloha,

                My situation was pretty much the same as Jay described above… pain wasn't too bad. It became less and less every day. After a week I was pretty much pain free. For me they removed 10 nodes during the process, 3 came back positive.

                Good luck… will be thinking about you.

                  Aloha14
                  Participant

                    Thanks Jay and Juan for writing me back quickly and for good wishes for my surgery.

                    About me…I noticed what I thought was a clear blister on my lower leg and it grew quite fast during early fall while on vacation.When I returned home I went to Dermatology and had a shave biopsy and the doctor was surprised it came back as Atypical Melanoma. The report indicated a depth of at least 1.2 mm, the portion on top of my skin was .65 mm, Mitotic rate 2. I've been so worried that it will turn out a lot deeper when it's excised. 

                    I did speak with my surgeon this afternoon about a pain management plan because I have spine issues with chronic pain also. Sounds like she will work with me on this.

                    Jay, sorry to hear that 3 nodes came back positive. Were you then offered other treatment?

                     

                     

                     

                    Aloha14
                    Participant

                      Thanks Jay and Juan for writing me back quickly and for good wishes for my surgery.

                      About me…I noticed what I thought was a clear blister on my lower leg and it grew quite fast during early fall while on vacation.When I returned home I went to Dermatology and had a shave biopsy and the doctor was surprised it came back as Atypical Melanoma. The report indicated a depth of at least 1.2 mm, the portion on top of my skin was .65 mm, Mitotic rate 2. I've been so worried that it will turn out a lot deeper when it's excised. 

                      I did speak with my surgeon this afternoon about a pain management plan because I have spine issues with chronic pain also. Sounds like she will work with me on this.

                      Jay, sorry to hear that 3 nodes came back positive. Were you then offered other treatment?

                       

                       

                       

                      Aloha14
                      Participant

                        Thanks Jay and Juan for writing me back quickly and for good wishes for my surgery.

                        About me…I noticed what I thought was a clear blister on my lower leg and it grew quite fast during early fall while on vacation.When I returned home I went to Dermatology and had a shave biopsy and the doctor was surprised it came back as Atypical Melanoma. The report indicated a depth of at least 1.2 mm, the portion on top of my skin was .65 mm, Mitotic rate 2. I've been so worried that it will turn out a lot deeper when it's excised. 

                        I did speak with my surgeon this afternoon about a pain management plan because I have spine issues with chronic pain also. Sounds like she will work with me on this.

                        Jay, sorry to hear that 3 nodes came back positive. Were you then offered other treatment?

                         

                         

                         

                      jvictoria
                      Participant

                        Hi Aloha,

                        My situation was pretty much the same as Jay described above… pain wasn't too bad. It became less and less every day. After a week I was pretty much pain free. For me they removed 10 nodes during the process, 3 came back positive.

                        Good luck… will be thinking about you.

                        jvictoria
                        Participant

                          Hi Aloha,

                          My situation was pretty much the same as Jay described above… pain wasn't too bad. It became less and less every day. After a week I was pretty much pain free. For me they removed 10 nodes during the process, 3 came back positive.

                          Good luck… will be thinking about you.

                          jbronicki
                          Participant

                            Hi,

                            I can speak on behalf of my husband who had the WLE and SLNB almost 3 years ago AND he has quite a bit of claustrophobia (he has to be medicated now to get his brain MRI).

                            He had a 19 mm tumor removed from upper back along with 3 lymph nodes.  He went to work the next day following the surgery and didn't take his pain meds after the first day.  He said the most annoying was from the SLNB where they took one lymph node from his armpit.  He said it was more of a pinching feeling then acute pain.  And he had about a foot long incision along his arm and back and he said it was more like a pulling feeling then pain.   

                            Like I said, he went to work the next day (but he HATES to miss work).

                            I saw that you just posted about claustrophobia as well.  My husband now gets medication before his brain MRI since he freaked out during the last one.  They have to give him an IV since the valium/ativan pills didn't do enough.  He dreads the actual imaging test more than he does the results due to the claustrophobia. 

                             

                            Good luck on your surgery on Friday.  Best of wishes,

                            Jackie

                            jbronicki
                            Participant

                              Hi,

                              I can speak on behalf of my husband who had the WLE and SLNB almost 3 years ago AND he has quite a bit of claustrophobia (he has to be medicated now to get his brain MRI).

                              He had a 19 mm tumor removed from upper back along with 3 lymph nodes.  He went to work the next day following the surgery and didn't take his pain meds after the first day.  He said the most annoying was from the SLNB where they took one lymph node from his armpit.  He said it was more of a pinching feeling then acute pain.  And he had about a foot long incision along his arm and back and he said it was more like a pulling feeling then pain.   

                              Like I said, he went to work the next day (but he HATES to miss work).

                              I saw that you just posted about claustrophobia as well.  My husband now gets medication before his brain MRI since he freaked out during the last one.  They have to give him an IV since the valium/ativan pills didn't do enough.  He dreads the actual imaging test more than he does the results due to the claustrophobia. 

                               

                              Good luck on your surgery on Friday.  Best of wishes,

                              Jackie

                              jbronicki
                              Participant

                                Hi,

                                I can speak on behalf of my husband who had the WLE and SLNB almost 3 years ago AND he has quite a bit of claustrophobia (he has to be medicated now to get his brain MRI).

                                He had a 19 mm tumor removed from upper back along with 3 lymph nodes.  He went to work the next day following the surgery and didn't take his pain meds after the first day.  He said the most annoying was from the SLNB where they took one lymph node from his armpit.  He said it was more of a pinching feeling then acute pain.  And he had about a foot long incision along his arm and back and he said it was more like a pulling feeling then pain.   

                                Like I said, he went to work the next day (but he HATES to miss work).

                                I saw that you just posted about claustrophobia as well.  My husband now gets medication before his brain MRI since he freaked out during the last one.  They have to give him an IV since the valium/ativan pills didn't do enough.  He dreads the actual imaging test more than he does the results due to the claustrophobia. 

                                 

                                Good luck on your surgery on Friday.  Best of wishes,

                                Jackie

                                SABKLYN
                                Participant

                                  Can't speak for everyone, but my experience with those procedures were relatively low pain.  The one thing that is somewhat painful (not hideous, but you'll feel it), is the injecting of the radioactive dye.  The radioactive dye is also how they find the sentinel node.  The radioactive dye registers on a probe, which tells the surgeon the lymph node tied to the suspicious area on your leg.  I did not need to go into any MRI or CT scan tube.  They prepped me for,surgery right after the dye was injected and off I went.  The only complication after surgery was a large seroma at the surgical site which was eventually drained.  All in all, very tolerable.

                                   

                                  good luck!!

                                  SABKLYN
                                  Participant

                                    Can't speak for everyone, but my experience with those procedures were relatively low pain.  The one thing that is somewhat painful (not hideous, but you'll feel it), is the injecting of the radioactive dye.  The radioactive dye is also how they find the sentinel node.  The radioactive dye registers on a probe, which tells the surgeon the lymph node tied to the suspicious area on your leg.  I did not need to go into any MRI or CT scan tube.  They prepped me for,surgery right after the dye was injected and off I went.  The only complication after surgery was a large seroma at the surgical site which was eventually drained.  All in all, very tolerable.

                                     

                                    good luck!!

                                      susanspotless
                                      Participant

                                        I was prescribed Vicodin. I took it for the first 2 days, got constipated and switched to aspirin.  If you are prescribed vicodin or similar have something like Mira-Lax on hand ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        susanspotless
                                        Participant

                                          I was prescribed Vicodin. I took it for the first 2 days, got constipated and switched to aspirin.  If you are prescribed vicodin or similar have something like Mira-Lax on hand ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          jennunicorn
                                          Participant

                                            Anyone prescribed a narcotic after surgery should also be prescribed a stool softener. That's pretty standard. If you don't get prescribed one, I would ask for it, they're not expensive and will save your gut the trouble.

                                            jennunicorn
                                            Participant

                                              Anyone prescribed a narcotic after surgery should also be prescribed a stool softener. That's pretty standard. If you don't get prescribed one, I would ask for it, they're not expensive and will save your gut the trouble.

                                              jennunicorn
                                              Participant

                                                Anyone prescribed a narcotic after surgery should also be prescribed a stool softener. That's pretty standard. If you don't get prescribed one, I would ask for it, they're not expensive and will save your gut the trouble.

                                                susanspotless
                                                Participant

                                                  I was prescribed Vicodin. I took it for the first 2 days, got constipated and switched to aspirin.  If you are prescribed vicodin or similar have something like Mira-Lax on hand ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                                SABKLYN
                                                Participant

                                                  Can't speak for everyone, but my experience with those procedures were relatively low pain.  The one thing that is somewhat painful (not hideous, but you'll feel it), is the injecting of the radioactive dye.  The radioactive dye is also how they find the sentinel node.  The radioactive dye registers on a probe, which tells the surgeon the lymph node tied to the suspicious area on your leg.  I did not need to go into any MRI or CT scan tube.  They prepped me for,surgery right after the dye was injected and off I went.  The only complication after surgery was a large seroma at the surgical site which was eventually drained.  All in all, very tolerable.

                                                   

                                                  good luck!!

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