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- April 3, 2018 at 1:35 am
My brother, Jered, 36, is stage iv with a very large tumor burden (as of scans Jan 24) to his liver, lungs, kidneys, adrenal gland, some bones, and superior vena cava. He received 9 rounds of radiation, 1 round of Opdivo/Yervoy, and is now on Zelboraf & Mekinist.
On the day of his last scheduled and 10th round of radiation, 2/2/18, he was sent to the ER for tachycardia and anxiety. Just over 24 hours later he was sedated and on a ventilator in the ICU. He stayed in the ICU for 36 days. His organs were failing, they put him on all the same drugs Hospice would give to someone who is dying. All of the specialists said he was untreatable and oncology needed to see that too.
We pushed hard on oncology to try Zelboraf; when they finally agreed they called it a hail mary. After 4 days of him getting Zelboraf dissolved in water and pushed through his gtube, Jered bounced back. They then started giving him crushed Mekinist through his gtube as well. 19 days after his first dose of Zelboraf he was out of the ICU and swallowing his pills on his own. He stayed on the hospital floor for a week and was transferred to a rehabilitation hospital on 3/21/18.
Jered has not had much success at the rehabilitation hospital. He has actually lost weight while there and had a bout of severe delirium that lasted 5 days. His labs are still on the up, although bilirubin is 2.3, and he doesn't have any pain. His delirium incident seemed to set him back drastically. This Wednesday, 4/4/18 we will take him to his first outpatient oncology visit since his time in the hospital, then 5 hours north to our parent's house. We will have home health visits 5 days a week for physical therapy and our mother has outfitted their home for his needs.
We all know Jered needs to see a melanoma specialist at an institute, I previously contacted Dr. Lee at Northside in Atlanta, so that is an option. He has not had another scan, other than a head CT when he had the delirium episode, which came back clear, so we do not know if the inhibitors, radiation, and/or Opdivo/Yervoy worked any magic. I tried to press his oncologist to give him another round of immunotherapy while still keeping him on the inhibitors, but he said it was not FDA approved and he could not.
I know the Z and Mek stop working at some point. I am struggling with the next step for Jered. Do we move him to Florida or Texas to become a patient at Moffit or MD Anderson? Do we just keep up with the Zelboraf and Mekinist until it stops working and then hope he has time to receive another form of treatment? Or can we try immunotherapy again to see if that works then go back to the Z/Mek if needed? Really which is better? I understand he is incredibly lucky to be alive, should I push this or just celebrate his being with family and in good spirits?
Can you just go to any cancer institute and become a patient? This is the first time really since Jered's diagnoses that we have control. Any and all insight is welcomed and appreciated.
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- April 3, 2018 at 3:02 am
Adriana was allowed to try this combo not on trial for a short while. ALT and AST levels went a little wonky (not horribly) so she stopped the BRAFi but later returned to BRAFi only which had some success for a while.
Advocate for what you and he feel is right.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02968303?term=opdivo+and+zelboraf&rank=1
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02818023?term=keytruda+and+zelboraf&rank=1
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02910700?term=pd1+plus+braf&draw=2&rank=1
Best wishes
Rob
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- April 3, 2018 at 4:38 am
Thanks a million again Rob, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your advocacy/voice for Adriana; it truly helps people like me keep my chin up.
I am hoping Jered's labs improve over the next weeks so he can qualify for a clinical trial like you listed, the pd1 plus braf would be our choice right now. His oncologist has never mentioned a trial and only mentioned MD Anderson for surgery if it ever becomes an option for him.
I truly value any and all advice, stories, or musings you have, email me with anything. [email protected]
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- April 3, 2018 at 9:30 pm
By all means try to get him to the very best melanoma center you can. If nothing else, have his medical records looked at by Anderson or Moffat. If he has the fight in him he should have the very best people guiding his care. If he is at the end of this road there may still be help from those places for comfort management designed especially for melanoma patients.
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- April 4, 2018 at 1:31 am
I'm glad things are looking up a bit in your brother's condition. A lot of what you do next depends on your and your family's tolerance for the fight as well as what you think it is your brother would have you do. Immunotherapy can work great but takes time. Targeted therapy (BRAF/MEK inhibitor combos) can do amazing things but have a limited time for that response (usually 6-9 months) before tumors learn to "work around" though there are those who are well maintained on those drugs for years.
For me….ultimately….I have a real problem with the 'powers that be' deciding what is approrpriate for those who will most certainly die if we do not find effective treatment. Meaning if immunotherapy plus BRAF/MEK is an option…DO IT!!! They ARE both FDA approved and could actually be prescribed together and I have known several patients for whom that has been done! But…be that as it may… If you look at the last link Rob gave you…there is a trial with that very thing being offered at MDA. There are other melanoma specialists that I suspect would prescribe it outside of the trial…but of course…your don't know unless you ask.
Here is some data in regard to what I call the trifecta: http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-whole-she-bang-immunotherapy-with.html
I wish there were clear cut answers. I wish melanoma made sense. I wish melanoma did not exist. But…My wishes don't matter much just now. Hang in there. No matter what…enjoy today. celeste
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