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- January 20, 2016 at 1:18 am
I am experiencing some very painful mouth sores covering the full inside of my mouth – gums, cheeks, tongue. My current doctor says all he can do is prescribe a lidocaine gel and that I should suck on ice. I asked about prescriptions (antibacterial, maybe?) like I had when I had thrush a couple of months ago and he said no.
Has anyone has a prescription that worked or any other remedy that helped? The thought of having to not be able to eat or talk for the next 3 months (when my ipi/nivo infusions end) makes me cry.
I am actually in the process of transferring my care to a better hospital with an actual melanoma specialist where I hope to be treated more compassionately (long story) and will also ask her at our first appointment on Friday.
Thank you for your support and feedback.
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:03 am
Christine,
Sorry about your side effects. It sounds an awful lot like what Celeste (Bubbles) experienced on her trial. Hopefully she'll chime in with any thing that worked for her. I'm sure she probably talked about it on her blog but might be tough to find. Maybe you can PM her if she doesn't chime in soon.
Good luck,
Brian
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:03 am
Christine,
Sorry about your side effects. It sounds an awful lot like what Celeste (Bubbles) experienced on her trial. Hopefully she'll chime in with any thing that worked for her. I'm sure she probably talked about it on her blog but might be tough to find. Maybe you can PM her if she doesn't chime in soon.
Good luck,
Brian
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:40 am
I had the same issues it was very uncomfortable, I was unable to eat, and was miserable.
I was perscribed ( Nystatin ) by my treatment doctor. It took a few days but it got better every, after about a week it was almost gone.
I expect that this is the direction that you want to explore.
Chris
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:40 am
I had the same issues it was very uncomfortable, I was unable to eat, and was miserable.
I was perscribed ( Nystatin ) by my treatment doctor. It took a few days but it got better every, after about a week it was almost gone.
I expect that this is the direction that you want to explore.
Chris
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:40 am
I had the same issues it was very uncomfortable, I was unable to eat, and was miserable.
I was perscribed ( Nystatin ) by my treatment doctor. It took a few days but it got better every, after about a week it was almost gone.
I expect that this is the direction that you want to explore.
Chris
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:03 am
Christine,
Sorry about your side effects. It sounds an awful lot like what Celeste (Bubbles) experienced on her trial. Hopefully she'll chime in with any thing that worked for her. I'm sure she probably talked about it on her blog but might be tough to find. Maybe you can PM her if she doesn't chime in soon.
Good luck,
Brian
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- January 20, 2016 at 1:42 pm
Christine – my husband used "magic mouthwash" to help with mouth sores. I believe it was a compounded mixture of lidocaine, maalox and diphenhydramin – each dr seems to have their own formula. Your dentist may also be able to provide suggestions. My husband was unable to eat solid food but was able to drink liquids and primarily used Unjury protein drink products (available online) to keep up his weight. Take care.
Ann
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- January 20, 2016 at 1:42 pm
Christine – my husband used "magic mouthwash" to help with mouth sores. I believe it was a compounded mixture of lidocaine, maalox and diphenhydramin – each dr seems to have their own formula. Your dentist may also be able to provide suggestions. My husband was unable to eat solid food but was able to drink liquids and primarily used Unjury protein drink products (available online) to keep up his weight. Take care.
Ann
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- January 20, 2016 at 1:42 pm
Christine – my husband used "magic mouthwash" to help with mouth sores. I believe it was a compounded mixture of lidocaine, maalox and diphenhydramin – each dr seems to have their own formula. Your dentist may also be able to provide suggestions. My husband was unable to eat solid food but was able to drink liquids and primarily used Unjury protein drink products (available online) to keep up his weight. Take care.
Ann
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Thank you for the information and suggestions, everyone. An on call doc prescribed magic mouthwash but when it didn't seem to doing anything, I called again and was told magic mouthwash is only a numbing agent. (Which contradicts what I read online and what you all are saying here.) Needless to say, a numbing agent only helps for about 30 minutes and does nothing to actually treat the sores.
I have a really hard time getting any of these doctors to really listen to me and am hoping my new doctor will be more attentive and aggressive. My first appointment with her is Friday and I will definitely ask about the medicines you all mention here.
Thank you so much!
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Thank you for the information and suggestions, everyone. An on call doc prescribed magic mouthwash but when it didn't seem to doing anything, I called again and was told magic mouthwash is only a numbing agent. (Which contradicts what I read online and what you all are saying here.) Needless to say, a numbing agent only helps for about 30 minutes and does nothing to actually treat the sores.
I have a really hard time getting any of these doctors to really listen to me and am hoping my new doctor will be more attentive and aggressive. My first appointment with her is Friday and I will definitely ask about the medicines you all mention here.
Thank you so much!
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- January 20, 2016 at 3:30 pm
Thank you for the information and suggestions, everyone. An on call doc prescribed magic mouthwash but when it didn't seem to doing anything, I called again and was told magic mouthwash is only a numbing agent. (Which contradicts what I read online and what you all are saying here.) Needless to say, a numbing agent only helps for about 30 minutes and does nothing to actually treat the sores.
I have a really hard time getting any of these doctors to really listen to me and am hoping my new doctor will be more attentive and aggressive. My first appointment with her is Friday and I will definitely ask about the medicines you all mention here.
Thank you so much!
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- January 20, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Hi Christine,
So sorry you are going through mouth ulcers (and apparently other issues!!). Brian is right…(Use the search bubble at top left of my blog and "mouth ulcers", to find more info)….I was the only one in my Nivo/Opivo trial to develop actual mouth ulcers, though several did experience mucositis (dry, irritated mouth). Since then, however, many people have contacted me with questions about their mouth issues while on anti-PD1. It actually makes sense that some of us develop them, just as some develop colitis, since the GI tract is really a long tube that starts at the mouth. Not sure how much this will help you, but here goes:
After my second infusion of Opdivo, I developed a "dry mouth" with a "weird taste". Strangely enough, grabbing a lemonade from a quickie mart while rushing back to the airport after an infusion made it better. However, by dose 8 I had acutal ulcers (mostly on cheeks and tongue). They would come and go…but gradually became worse and lasted longer over time. (I was on anti-PD1 from December 2010 through June of 2013.) When actual lesions were present spicy, acidic foods were not pleasant! Warm saline rinses helped. I tried a variey of "magic mouthwashes"….all of which try to numb and apply a protective coating to the mouth. There are a variety of these: The simplest is equal parts maalox and liquid benadryl that you swish and spit. Some contain lidocaine (numbing agent) and others contain nystatin (an anti-fungal). None of these helped me very much. In my opinion…initially the lesion are NOT infected. They are due to an immune response. Therefore, it makes sense that unless the lesions BECOME infected (which is likely enough in the warm, dark mouth) anti-fungals, anti-virals, and anti-biotics will not help much. Fairly early on, I tried nystatin anyway and it provided little benefit. My dentist was actually more alarmed by my condition than my oncologist and had lidocaine lollipops compounded for me. They numbed things up a bit but after waking out of a sleep with heart palpitations (a known side effect of lidocaine) I decided they weren't worth it!! But after struggling with ulcers for 2 years….this happened: http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/09/nivolumab-anti-pd1-trial33-months-later.html
In desperation with the help of my dentist, I did do a round of Peridex mouth wash (an anti-bacterial) and Valcyclovir (anti-viral/herpetic agent) and it helped! Unfortunately, doing both with no culture before starting was a very unscientific method….but I was tired!!!! Since completion of anti-Pd1 in June 2013, I have had various flares of rashes and mouth ulcers. They were of greater intensity and duration at first…having become much less troublesome since. Sadly, I can't give you a "cure"….but as none of these "treatments" will harm you, you could certainly give them a try to see if you can find some relief!!!
Hang in there. I wish you well. Yours, Celeste
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- January 20, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Hi Christine,
So sorry you are going through mouth ulcers (and apparently other issues!!). Brian is right…(Use the search bubble at top left of my blog and "mouth ulcers", to find more info)….I was the only one in my Nivo/Opivo trial to develop actual mouth ulcers, though several did experience mucositis (dry, irritated mouth). Since then, however, many people have contacted me with questions about their mouth issues while on anti-PD1. It actually makes sense that some of us develop them, just as some develop colitis, since the GI tract is really a long tube that starts at the mouth. Not sure how much this will help you, but here goes:
After my second infusion of Opdivo, I developed a "dry mouth" with a "weird taste". Strangely enough, grabbing a lemonade from a quickie mart while rushing back to the airport after an infusion made it better. However, by dose 8 I had acutal ulcers (mostly on cheeks and tongue). They would come and go…but gradually became worse and lasted longer over time. (I was on anti-PD1 from December 2010 through June of 2013.) When actual lesions were present spicy, acidic foods were not pleasant! Warm saline rinses helped. I tried a variey of "magic mouthwashes"….all of which try to numb and apply a protective coating to the mouth. There are a variety of these: The simplest is equal parts maalox and liquid benadryl that you swish and spit. Some contain lidocaine (numbing agent) and others contain nystatin (an anti-fungal). None of these helped me very much. In my opinion…initially the lesion are NOT infected. They are due to an immune response. Therefore, it makes sense that unless the lesions BECOME infected (which is likely enough in the warm, dark mouth) anti-fungals, anti-virals, and anti-biotics will not help much. Fairly early on, I tried nystatin anyway and it provided little benefit. My dentist was actually more alarmed by my condition than my oncologist and had lidocaine lollipops compounded for me. They numbed things up a bit but after waking out of a sleep with heart palpitations (a known side effect of lidocaine) I decided they weren't worth it!! But after struggling with ulcers for 2 years….this happened: http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/09/nivolumab-anti-pd1-trial33-months-later.html
In desperation with the help of my dentist, I did do a round of Peridex mouth wash (an anti-bacterial) and Valcyclovir (anti-viral/herpetic agent) and it helped! Unfortunately, doing both with no culture before starting was a very unscientific method….but I was tired!!!! Since completion of anti-Pd1 in June 2013, I have had various flares of rashes and mouth ulcers. They were of greater intensity and duration at first…having become much less troublesome since. Sadly, I can't give you a "cure"….but as none of these "treatments" will harm you, you could certainly give them a try to see if you can find some relief!!!
Hang in there. I wish you well. Yours, Celeste
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- January 20, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Hi Christine,
So sorry you are going through mouth ulcers (and apparently other issues!!). Brian is right…(Use the search bubble at top left of my blog and "mouth ulcers", to find more info)….I was the only one in my Nivo/Opivo trial to develop actual mouth ulcers, though several did experience mucositis (dry, irritated mouth). Since then, however, many people have contacted me with questions about their mouth issues while on anti-PD1. It actually makes sense that some of us develop them, just as some develop colitis, since the GI tract is really a long tube that starts at the mouth. Not sure how much this will help you, but here goes:
After my second infusion of Opdivo, I developed a "dry mouth" with a "weird taste". Strangely enough, grabbing a lemonade from a quickie mart while rushing back to the airport after an infusion made it better. However, by dose 8 I had acutal ulcers (mostly on cheeks and tongue). They would come and go…but gradually became worse and lasted longer over time. (I was on anti-PD1 from December 2010 through June of 2013.) When actual lesions were present spicy, acidic foods were not pleasant! Warm saline rinses helped. I tried a variey of "magic mouthwashes"….all of which try to numb and apply a protective coating to the mouth. There are a variety of these: The simplest is equal parts maalox and liquid benadryl that you swish and spit. Some contain lidocaine (numbing agent) and others contain nystatin (an anti-fungal). None of these helped me very much. In my opinion…initially the lesion are NOT infected. They are due to an immune response. Therefore, it makes sense that unless the lesions BECOME infected (which is likely enough in the warm, dark mouth) anti-fungals, anti-virals, and anti-biotics will not help much. Fairly early on, I tried nystatin anyway and it provided little benefit. My dentist was actually more alarmed by my condition than my oncologist and had lidocaine lollipops compounded for me. They numbed things up a bit but after waking out of a sleep with heart palpitations (a known side effect of lidocaine) I decided they weren't worth it!! But after struggling with ulcers for 2 years….this happened: http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/09/nivolumab-anti-pd1-trial33-months-later.html
In desperation with the help of my dentist, I did do a round of Peridex mouth wash (an anti-bacterial) and Valcyclovir (anti-viral/herpetic agent) and it helped! Unfortunately, doing both with no culture before starting was a very unscientific method….but I was tired!!!! Since completion of anti-Pd1 in June 2013, I have had various flares of rashes and mouth ulcers. They were of greater intensity and duration at first…having become much less troublesome since. Sadly, I can't give you a "cure"….but as none of these "treatments" will harm you, you could certainly give them a try to see if you can find some relief!!!
Hang in there. I wish you well. Yours, Celeste
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