The Ketogenic Diet and the sugar/carbs->insulin secretion->tumor growth connection explained beautifully by Dr. Eugene Fine, MD
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The Ketogenic Diet and the sugar/carbs->insulin secretion->tumor growth connection explained beautifully by Dr. Eugene Fine, MD

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    • January 16, 2013 at 10:31 pm
    JakeinNY
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    A 42 minute audio piece (there is a 1 1/2 minute commercial at about the 18 1/2 minute mark so just fast forward or be patient!) with Dr. Eugene Fine, MD (Albert Einstein, Montefiore Med Ctr) from NYC, who talks about the ketogenic diet for cancer patients, explaining what it is all about, and the results of his RECHARGE trial in which 6 of 10 cancer patients (none with melanoma) had stable disease (5) or a partial regression (1) that everyone should at least listen to and possibly talk to their oncologist about :

    A 42 minute audio piece (there is a 1 1/2 minute commercial at about the 18 1/2 minute mark so just fast forward or be patient!) with Dr. Eugene Fine, MD (Albert Einstein, Montefiore Med Ctr) from NYC, who talks about the ketogenic diet for cancer patients, explaining what it is all about, and the results of his RECHARGE trial in which 6 of 10 cancer patients (none with melanoma) had stable disease (5) or a partial regression (1) that everyone should at least listen to and possibly talk to their oncologist about :

    http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/6898/628-dr-eugene-fine-uses-ketogenic-diet-in-recharge-cancer-trial/

     

    Dr. Fine's profile at Albert Einstein College of Medicine

    http://www.einstein.yu.edu/faculty/2013/eugene-fine/

     

    A ketogenic diet trial going on right now that is taking melanoma patients:

    http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01716468

     

    I'm sure that everyone (including myself) would love to take a pill and be cured of melanoma and all ailments, but if the answer can be conventional treatment along with "other" methods, then so be it!!!

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      • January 17, 2013 at 3:55 am
      Swanee
      Participant

      Hi Jake,

      Thanks for your post, something for all of us to consider and think about!   I have read many success stories n the "Patient Stories" of those who chose surgery and then naturopathic lifestyles and who experienced remissions for long periods of time.  This is a strange cancer and I am beginning to believe it is mostly an  auto-immune disorder in the highest degree!  All the information that we all post is invaluable to all of us seeking information and answers in our search for a cure.  

      Wishing all an NED status in the near future!

      Swanee

      • January 17, 2013 at 3:55 am
      Swanee
      Participant

      Hi Jake,

      Thanks for your post, something for all of us to consider and think about!   I have read many success stories n the "Patient Stories" of those who chose surgery and then naturopathic lifestyles and who experienced remissions for long periods of time.  This is a strange cancer and I am beginning to believe it is mostly an  auto-immune disorder in the highest degree!  All the information that we all post is invaluable to all of us seeking information and answers in our search for a cure.  

      Wishing all an NED status in the near future!

      Swanee

        • January 17, 2013 at 4:10 am
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        Thanks Swanee.

        Yep, I'm just trying to help, and if I help just one person on here, that would be great!!!

        • January 17, 2013 at 4:10 am
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        Thanks Swanee.

        Yep, I'm just trying to help, and if I help just one person on here, that would be great!!!

        • January 17, 2013 at 4:10 am
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        Thanks Swanee.

        Yep, I'm just trying to help, and if I help just one person on here, that would be great!!!

      • January 17, 2013 at 3:55 am
      Swanee
      Participant

      Hi Jake,

      Thanks for your post, something for all of us to consider and think about!   I have read many success stories n the "Patient Stories" of those who chose surgery and then naturopathic lifestyles and who experienced remissions for long periods of time.  This is a strange cancer and I am beginning to believe it is mostly an  auto-immune disorder in the highest degree!  All the information that we all post is invaluable to all of us seeking information and answers in our search for a cure.  

      Wishing all an NED status in the near future!

      Swanee

      • January 17, 2013 at 10:20 am
      JC
      Participant

      no fruit?  that seems odd, i thought fruit is a healthy thing to eat

      • January 17, 2013 at 10:20 am
      JC
      Participant

      no fruit?  that seems odd, i thought fruit is a healthy thing to eat

        • January 17, 2013 at 7:18 pm
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        Fruit is generally a healthy thing to eat, but it's not something you want to eat if you want to follow a ketogenic diet and hopefully get the benefits of a ketogenic diet, which is also used for epilepsy (also for autism???).

        • January 17, 2013 at 7:18 pm
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        Fruit is generally a healthy thing to eat, but it's not something you want to eat if you want to follow a ketogenic diet and hopefully get the benefits of a ketogenic diet, which is also used for epilepsy (also for autism???).

        • January 17, 2013 at 7:18 pm
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        Fruit is generally a healthy thing to eat, but it's not something you want to eat if you want to follow a ketogenic diet and hopefully get the benefits of a ketogenic diet, which is also used for epilepsy (also for autism???).

      • January 17, 2013 at 10:20 am
      JC
      Participant

      no fruit?  that seems odd, i thought fruit is a healthy thing to eat

      • January 17, 2013 at 1:58 pm
      JC
      Participant

      very high fat diet?  I've only ever heard low-fat diet recommended for good health (certainly for heart health)

       

      none of the 10 cases were melanoma, I wonder how that tumor type would have responded

       

      only 1 person had partial remission? 

       

      interesting the part about diet in conjunction with drug therapy/chemotherapy, etc. . diet synergizing with other therapies to be able to reduce the dose of medications/reduce toxicities

       

      I would be really interested to see results of larger trials, this was such a small sample size

      • January 17, 2013 at 1:58 pm
      JC
      Participant

      very high fat diet?  I've only ever heard low-fat diet recommended for good health (certainly for heart health)

       

      none of the 10 cases were melanoma, I wonder how that tumor type would have responded

       

      only 1 person had partial remission? 

       

      interesting the part about diet in conjunction with drug therapy/chemotherapy, etc. . diet synergizing with other therapies to be able to reduce the dose of medications/reduce toxicities

       

      I would be really interested to see results of larger trials, this was such a small sample size

        • January 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        A low carb diet with some protein and a great deal of HEALTHY fats (there are many sources of healthy fats out there).

        I mentioned in the original post that none of the patients in the RECHARGE study were melanoma patients but the MD did say that they recruited patients whose cancer "showed up" on PET scans, like melanoma does, so I doubt that they excluded melanoma patients, it's probably just that they reached a comfortable sample size without involving melanoma patients. I also mentioned that there is another ongoing trial that is recruiting many types of cancer patients, including melanoma patients. I provided that link at the end of my post.

        Of the 10 patients enrolled, 4 of them had their cancer worsen, 5 had no change in their cancer, and 1 had the partial regression.

        Let's hope the other trials involving this ketogenic diet show promise and that larger and larger trials are done.

        To date, the most impressive case involves a pediatric patient with a form of brain cancer that was alive and well 10 years after starting the diet. The original paper for that case was done by Nebeling, et al.

        • January 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        A low carb diet with some protein and a great deal of HEALTHY fats (there are many sources of healthy fats out there).

        I mentioned in the original post that none of the patients in the RECHARGE study were melanoma patients but the MD did say that they recruited patients whose cancer "showed up" on PET scans, like melanoma does, so I doubt that they excluded melanoma patients, it's probably just that they reached a comfortable sample size without involving melanoma patients. I also mentioned that there is another ongoing trial that is recruiting many types of cancer patients, including melanoma patients. I provided that link at the end of my post.

        Of the 10 patients enrolled, 4 of them had their cancer worsen, 5 had no change in their cancer, and 1 had the partial regression.

        Let's hope the other trials involving this ketogenic diet show promise and that larger and larger trials are done.

        To date, the most impressive case involves a pediatric patient with a form of brain cancer that was alive and well 10 years after starting the diet. The original paper for that case was done by Nebeling, et al.

        • January 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm
        JakeinNY
        Participant

        A low carb diet with some protein and a great deal of HEALTHY fats (there are many sources of healthy fats out there).

        I mentioned in the original post that none of the patients in the RECHARGE study were melanoma patients but the MD did say that they recruited patients whose cancer "showed up" on PET scans, like melanoma does, so I doubt that they excluded melanoma patients, it's probably just that they reached a comfortable sample size without involving melanoma patients. I also mentioned that there is another ongoing trial that is recruiting many types of cancer patients, including melanoma patients. I provided that link at the end of my post.

        Of the 10 patients enrolled, 4 of them had their cancer worsen, 5 had no change in their cancer, and 1 had the partial regression.

        Let's hope the other trials involving this ketogenic diet show promise and that larger and larger trials are done.

        To date, the most impressive case involves a pediatric patient with a form of brain cancer that was alive and well 10 years after starting the diet. The original paper for that case was done by Nebeling, et al.

      • January 17, 2013 at 1:58 pm
      JC
      Participant

      very high fat diet?  I've only ever heard low-fat diet recommended for good health (certainly for heart health)

       

      none of the 10 cases were melanoma, I wonder how that tumor type would have responded

       

      only 1 person had partial remission? 

       

      interesting the part about diet in conjunction with drug therapy/chemotherapy, etc. . diet synergizing with other therapies to be able to reduce the dose of medications/reduce toxicities

       

      I would be really interested to see results of larger trials, this was such a small sample size

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