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The Ketogenic Diet and the sugar/carbs->insulin secretion->tumor growth connection explained beautifully by Dr. Eugene Fine, MD

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    JakeinNY
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      A 42 minute audio piece (there is a 1 1/2 minute commercial at about the 18 1/2 minute mark so just fast forward or be patient!) with Dr. Eugene Fine, MD (Albert Einstein, Montefiore Med Ctr) from NYC, who talks about the ketogenic diet for cancer patients, explaining what it is all about, and the results of his RECHARGE trial in which 6 of 10 cancer patients (none with melanoma) had stable disease (5) or a partial regression (1) that everyone should at least listen to and possibly talk to their oncologist about :

      A 42 minute audio piece (there is a 1 1/2 minute commercial at about the 18 1/2 minute mark so just fast forward or be patient!) with Dr. Eugene Fine, MD (Albert Einstein, Montefiore Med Ctr) from NYC, who talks about the ketogenic diet for cancer patients, explaining what it is all about, and the results of his RECHARGE trial in which 6 of 10 cancer patients (none with melanoma) had stable disease (5) or a partial regression (1) that everyone should at least listen to and possibly talk to their oncologist about :

      http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/6898/628-dr-eugene-fine-uses-ketogenic-diet-in-recharge-cancer-trial/

       

      Dr. Fine's profile at Albert Einstein College of Medicine

      http://www.einstein.yu.edu/faculty/2013/eugene-fine/

       

      A ketogenic diet trial going on right now that is taking melanoma patients:

      http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01716468

       

      I'm sure that everyone (including myself) would love to take a pill and be cured of melanoma and all ailments, but if the answer can be conventional treatment along with "other" methods, then so be it!!!

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        Swanee
        Participant

          Hi Jake,

          Thanks for your post, something for all of us to consider and think about!   I have read many success stories n the "Patient Stories" of those who chose surgery and then naturopathic lifestyles and who experienced remissions for long periods of time.  This is a strange cancer and I am beginning to believe it is mostly an  auto-immune disorder in the highest degree!  All the information that we all post is invaluable to all of us seeking information and answers in our search for a cure.  

          Wishing all an NED status in the near future!

          Swanee

          Swanee
          Participant

            Hi Jake,

            Thanks for your post, something for all of us to consider and think about!   I have read many success stories n the "Patient Stories" of those who chose surgery and then naturopathic lifestyles and who experienced remissions for long periods of time.  This is a strange cancer and I am beginning to believe it is mostly an  auto-immune disorder in the highest degree!  All the information that we all post is invaluable to all of us seeking information and answers in our search for a cure.  

            Wishing all an NED status in the near future!

            Swanee

              JakeinNY
              Participant

                Thanks Swanee.

                Yep, I'm just trying to help, and if I help just one person on here, that would be great!!!

                JakeinNY
                Participant

                  Thanks Swanee.

                  Yep, I'm just trying to help, and if I help just one person on here, that would be great!!!

                  JakeinNY
                  Participant

                    Thanks Swanee.

                    Yep, I'm just trying to help, and if I help just one person on here, that would be great!!!

                  Swanee
                  Participant

                    Hi Jake,

                    Thanks for your post, something for all of us to consider and think about!   I have read many success stories n the "Patient Stories" of those who chose surgery and then naturopathic lifestyles and who experienced remissions for long periods of time.  This is a strange cancer and I am beginning to believe it is mostly an  auto-immune disorder in the highest degree!  All the information that we all post is invaluable to all of us seeking information and answers in our search for a cure.  

                    Wishing all an NED status in the near future!

                    Swanee

                    JC
                    Participant

                      no fruit?  that seems odd, i thought fruit is a healthy thing to eat

                        JakeinNY
                        Participant

                          Fruit is generally a healthy thing to eat, but it's not something you want to eat if you want to follow a ketogenic diet and hopefully get the benefits of a ketogenic diet, which is also used for epilepsy (also for autism???).

                          JakeinNY
                          Participant

                            Fruit is generally a healthy thing to eat, but it's not something you want to eat if you want to follow a ketogenic diet and hopefully get the benefits of a ketogenic diet, which is also used for epilepsy (also for autism???).

                            JakeinNY
                            Participant

                              Fruit is generally a healthy thing to eat, but it's not something you want to eat if you want to follow a ketogenic diet and hopefully get the benefits of a ketogenic diet, which is also used for epilepsy (also for autism???).

                            JC
                            Participant

                              no fruit?  that seems odd, i thought fruit is a healthy thing to eat

                              JC
                              Participant

                                no fruit?  that seems odd, i thought fruit is a healthy thing to eat

                                JC
                                Participant

                                  very high fat diet?  I've only ever heard low-fat diet recommended for good health (certainly for heart health)

                                   

                                  none of the 10 cases were melanoma, I wonder how that tumor type would have responded

                                   

                                  only 1 person had partial remission? 

                                   

                                  interesting the part about diet in conjunction with drug therapy/chemotherapy, etc. . diet synergizing with other therapies to be able to reduce the dose of medications/reduce toxicities

                                   

                                  I would be really interested to see results of larger trials, this was such a small sample size

                                  JC
                                  Participant

                                    very high fat diet?  I've only ever heard low-fat diet recommended for good health (certainly for heart health)

                                     

                                    none of the 10 cases were melanoma, I wonder how that tumor type would have responded

                                     

                                    only 1 person had partial remission? 

                                     

                                    interesting the part about diet in conjunction with drug therapy/chemotherapy, etc. . diet synergizing with other therapies to be able to reduce the dose of medications/reduce toxicities

                                     

                                    I would be really interested to see results of larger trials, this was such a small sample size

                                    JC
                                    Participant

                                      very high fat diet?  I've only ever heard low-fat diet recommended for good health (certainly for heart health)

                                       

                                      none of the 10 cases were melanoma, I wonder how that tumor type would have responded

                                       

                                      only 1 person had partial remission? 

                                       

                                      interesting the part about diet in conjunction with drug therapy/chemotherapy, etc. . diet synergizing with other therapies to be able to reduce the dose of medications/reduce toxicities

                                       

                                      I would be really interested to see results of larger trials, this was such a small sample size

                                        JakeinNY
                                        Participant

                                          A low carb diet with some protein and a great deal of HEALTHY fats (there are many sources of healthy fats out there).

                                          I mentioned in the original post that none of the patients in the RECHARGE study were melanoma patients but the MD did say that they recruited patients whose cancer "showed up" on PET scans, like melanoma does, so I doubt that they excluded melanoma patients, it's probably just that they reached a comfortable sample size without involving melanoma patients. I also mentioned that there is another ongoing trial that is recruiting many types of cancer patients, including melanoma patients. I provided that link at the end of my post.

                                          Of the 10 patients enrolled, 4 of them had their cancer worsen, 5 had no change in their cancer, and 1 had the partial regression.

                                          Let's hope the other trials involving this ketogenic diet show promise and that larger and larger trials are done.

                                          To date, the most impressive case involves a pediatric patient with a form of brain cancer that was alive and well 10 years after starting the diet. The original paper for that case was done by Nebeling, et al.

                                          JakeinNY
                                          Participant

                                            A low carb diet with some protein and a great deal of HEALTHY fats (there are many sources of healthy fats out there).

                                            I mentioned in the original post that none of the patients in the RECHARGE study were melanoma patients but the MD did say that they recruited patients whose cancer "showed up" on PET scans, like melanoma does, so I doubt that they excluded melanoma patients, it's probably just that they reached a comfortable sample size without involving melanoma patients. I also mentioned that there is another ongoing trial that is recruiting many types of cancer patients, including melanoma patients. I provided that link at the end of my post.

                                            Of the 10 patients enrolled, 4 of them had their cancer worsen, 5 had no change in their cancer, and 1 had the partial regression.

                                            Let's hope the other trials involving this ketogenic diet show promise and that larger and larger trials are done.

                                            To date, the most impressive case involves a pediatric patient with a form of brain cancer that was alive and well 10 years after starting the diet. The original paper for that case was done by Nebeling, et al.

                                            JakeinNY
                                            Participant

                                              A low carb diet with some protein and a great deal of HEALTHY fats (there are many sources of healthy fats out there).

                                              I mentioned in the original post that none of the patients in the RECHARGE study were melanoma patients but the MD did say that they recruited patients whose cancer "showed up" on PET scans, like melanoma does, so I doubt that they excluded melanoma patients, it's probably just that they reached a comfortable sample size without involving melanoma patients. I also mentioned that there is another ongoing trial that is recruiting many types of cancer patients, including melanoma patients. I provided that link at the end of my post.

                                              Of the 10 patients enrolled, 4 of them had their cancer worsen, 5 had no change in their cancer, and 1 had the partial regression.

                                              Let's hope the other trials involving this ketogenic diet show promise and that larger and larger trials are done.

                                              To date, the most impressive case involves a pediatric patient with a form of brain cancer that was alive and well 10 years after starting the diet. The original paper for that case was done by Nebeling, et al.

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