soooooweeeee whats that smell? A pile of BG?

What, are you calling out for the Moderator now? Pretty funny, considering the source.

(Talk about someone who never 'owns' their own crap!)

What, are you calling out for the Moderator now? Pretty funny, considering the source.

(Talk about someone who never 'owns' their own crap!)

Tina/Roxanne/Whateva's schtick:  create pseudo-moral dilemma; insert self as painfully and narcissistically as possible.  then end.

Tina/Roxanne/Whateva's schtick:  create pseudo-moral dilemma; insert self as painfully and narcissistically as possible.  then end.

Since your powers of psychological deduction are rather poor, Doctor, you wouldn't happen to be an ophthalmologist by any chance?

The reason I ask…I swear I *saw * many others posting  their opinions on the moral dilemma long before I shared my own thoughts on fear and Melanoma. I didn't create that topic nor does stating my differing opinion constitute "creating pseudo-dilemmas". I don't agree with how the fearful are treated and it's an all too common occurrence on this board with many stages. If this is a board  where only late stage experience is tolerated or respected-that should be clearly stated- rather than using tactics of humiliation and exclusion. We know far too many early stage patients who have progressed to later stages and passed on to have this sort of thing accepted year after year.

These are the same thoughts I've shared about the subject for almost 10 years. My only "schtick" is  objecting to this treatment and knowing, from my experience,  that those who are further along in diagnosis can help shorten the learning curve and alleviate  the uncomfortable board responses with a bit of understanding… (you know, rather than ripping the fearful a new one). Maybe you can come onto the early stage board and share your insight into how we should treat the newly diagnosed and fearful?  I'm sure they'd appreciate your obvious way of belittling their concerns- I know I'm a big fan.

Whateva's? Cute, but I know you can do better.

Since your powers of psychological deduction are rather poor, Doctor, you wouldn't happen to be an ophthalmologist by any chance?

The reason I ask…I swear I *saw * many others posting  their opinions on the moral dilemma long before I shared my own thoughts on fear and Melanoma. I didn't create that topic nor does stating my differing opinion constitute "creating pseudo-dilemmas". I don't agree with how the fearful are treated and it's an all too common occurrence on this board with many stages. If this is a board  where only late stage experience is tolerated or respected-that should be clearly stated- rather than using tactics of humiliation and exclusion. We know far too many early stage patients who have progressed to later stages and passed on to have this sort of thing accepted year after year.

These are the same thoughts I've shared about the subject for almost 10 years. My only "schtick" is  objecting to this treatment and knowing, from my experience,  that those who are further along in diagnosis can help shorten the learning curve and alleviate  the uncomfortable board responses with a bit of understanding… (you know, rather than ripping the fearful a new one). Maybe you can come onto the early stage board and share your insight into how we should treat the newly diagnosed and fearful?  I'm sure they'd appreciate your obvious way of belittling their concerns- I know I'm a big fan.

Whateva's? Cute, but I know you can do better.

My only "schtick" is  objecting to this treatment and knowing, from my experience, that those who are further along in diagnosis can help shorten the learning curve and alleviate  the uncomfortable board responses with a bit of understanding…

Does your 'schtick' consist of  reminding others -further along in diagnosis -how to behave, when you will have nothing to do with it?

Maybe you can come onto the early stage board and share your insight into how we should treat the newly diagnosed and fearful? 

I have an idea, rather than this particular poster, why not actually invite the fearful to your early stage board? If only you had done that during the last moral dilemma, then well intentioned melanoma awareness nuts like myself may still have been able to link Eric's youtube videos to our political and media correspondence. (This is something I promised Eric and Jill I would do- but now that the videos are adult only, it is unlikely anyone will make the effort to see them.) 

You know,  I tried to talk to that poster, I even offered to hold his/her hand – you must practice selective reading R or you would have noticed. (Scorn my feeble attempts if you like, at least I tried.)

My only "schtick" is  objecting to this treatment and knowing, from my experience, that those who are further along in diagnosis can help shorten the learning curve and alleviate  the uncomfortable board responses with a bit of understanding…

Does your 'schtick' consist of  reminding others -further along in diagnosis -how to behave, when you will have nothing to do with it?

Maybe you can come onto the early stage board and share your insight into how we should treat the newly diagnosed and fearful? 

I have an idea, rather than this particular poster, why not actually invite the fearful to your early stage board? If only you had done that during the last moral dilemma, then well intentioned melanoma awareness nuts like myself may still have been able to link Eric's youtube videos to our political and media correspondence. (This is something I promised Eric and Jill I would do- but now that the videos are adult only, it is unlikely anyone will make the effort to see them.) 

You know,  I tried to talk to that poster, I even offered to hold his/her hand – you must practice selective reading R or you would have noticed. (Scorn my feeble attempts if you like, at least I tried.)

Does your 'schtick' consist of  reminding others -further along in diagnosis -how to behave, when you will have nothing to do with it?

 If others** further along in diagnosis ** are castrating fearful, early stage patients …that would fall into the area of advocating for early stage and the suggestion that a little understanding of  fear goes a long way to respecting the needs of all patients and helping keep this type of argument to a minimum. Perhaps it could assist in funneling these patients into an area where they can discuss their trivial experiences with cancer.

I  have an idea, rather than this particular poster, why not actually invite the fearful to your early stage board?

That would be why I continue to hang around after 10 years of this crap- but we only really ( as opposed to sarcastically) invite those we are certain are early stage and are looking for help or appear to be having trouble with their diagnosis.  That poster was anon ,and, after being ripped a new one, didn't come back to mention they were early stage. I  do not post on the main board unless I have a piece of information directly asked for ( usually related to kidney cancer or heart disease and I'm alerted to these by other people) . Sometimes after a post where it's suggested someone could be early they offer the info, but that didn't happen and the discussion became bogged down  by back and forth with the hate mongers that usually follow my  posts.  If they provide an e-mail, they are privately e-mailed. Sometimes, the more important patients refer those less deserving of respect to an early stage moderator- but only if they are aware they are early-stage or bother to take the time. That wasn't an option in this "dilemma".We used to get a lot of new, early patients in chat, but that is no longer happening.

You know,  I tried to talk to that poster, I even offered to hold his/her hand – you must practice selective reading R or you would have noticed.

I do practice selective reading…looking for new, frightened early stage patients in the headings on the main board, commenting on the social side when I think it's an early stage issue or I am involved ( like BG inserting me into her  last two posts)  or it's a fun topic involving someone I enjoy . I don't comment on the main board…the other moderator ot the early stage board does post /solicit  self- identified as early stage patients there …more than one of us posting there pushes more important info down the board. If you were trying to talk to the poster, I wasn't addressing you.

This is only a well- intentioned sugestion to  a revered *well-intentioned Melanoma awareness nut * interested in making the video available… have you asked Jill to e-mail a copy of the video that you can provide to your political and media awareness groups?As an awareness nut, you must be aware that videos can be posted to other sites where links are available and this one might even be able to be re-tooled and reposted under a different You Tube user and linked.

Whoa, now we're castrating new patients? Is this a job for John's new van? Is it to prevent them from passing along possible genetic mutations? New therapy?

Still, way harsh.

Whoa, now we're castrating new patients? Is this a job for John's new van? Is it to prevent them from passing along possible genetic mutations? New therapy?

Still, way harsh.

Hmmm, whatever John is into these days.

Colorful word  that *castrating*…stopping them from producing (additional children,posts), hurting them, taking away their ability to pass on their "essence"…I liked it.

Yea, it's pretty harsh , but you're perfectly within your right to soften the rhetoric if that serves your view of the situation- obviously.  

Hmmm, whatever John is into these days.

Colorful word  that *castrating*…stopping them from producing (additional children,posts), hurting them, taking away their ability to pass on their "essence"…I liked it.

Yea, it's pretty harsh , but you're perfectly within your right to soften the rhetoric if that serves your view of the situation- obviously.  

Hmmm, whatever John is into these days.

Colorful word  that *castrating*…stopping them from producing (additional children,posts), hurting them, taking away their ability to pass on their "essence"…I liked it.

Yea, it's pretty harsh , but you're perfectly within your right to soften the rhetoric if that serves your view of the situation- obviously.  

Whoa, now we're castrating new patients? Is this a job for John's new van? Is it to prevent them from passing along possible genetic mutations? New therapy?

Still, way harsh.

I think I get it now,  your 'schtick' is reminding others -further along in diagnosis – to ferret out and funnel fearful early staged patients to a safe place.  Is this a class you teach often R ? I would think you would have to given the fact we are not lacking in newcomers. 

Regarding Eric's video, I guess I'm hoping Jill can repost it to youtube somehow  ..youtube links are more likely to be opened than an attachment  (or a link to a lesser known video hosting site)  especially when received from an unknown corespondent.

I think I get it now,  your 'schtick' is reminding others -further along in diagnosis – to ferret out and funnel fearful early staged patients to a safe place.  Is this a class you teach often R ? I would think you would have to given the fact we are not lacking in newcomers. 

Regarding Eric's video, I guess I'm hoping Jill can repost it to youtube somehow  ..youtube links are more likely to be opened than an attachment  (or a link to a lesser known video hosting site)  especially when received from an unknown corespondent.

I think I get it now,  your 'schtick' is reminding others -further along in diagnosis – to ferret out and funnel fearful early staged patients to a safe place.  Is this a class you teach often R ? I would think you would have to given the fact we are not lacking in newcomers. 

Regarding Eric's video, I guess I'm hoping Jill can repost it to youtube somehow  ..youtube links are more likely to be opened than an attachment  (or a link to a lesser known video hosting site)  especially when received from an unknown corespondent.

Does your 'schtick' consist of  reminding others -further along in diagnosis -how to behave, when you will have nothing to do with it?

 If others** further along in diagnosis ** are castrating fearful, early stage patients …that would fall into the area of advocating for early stage and the suggestion that a little understanding of  fear goes a long way to respecting the needs of all patients and helping keep this type of argument to a minimum. Perhaps it could assist in funneling these patients into an area where they can discuss their trivial experiences with cancer.

I  have an idea, rather than this particular poster, why not actually invite the fearful to your early stage board?

That would be why I continue to hang around after 10 years of this crap- but we only really ( as opposed to sarcastically) invite those we are certain are early stage and are looking for help or appear to be having trouble with their diagnosis.  That poster was anon ,and, after being ripped a new one, didn't come back to mention they were early stage. I  do not post on the main board unless I have a piece of information directly asked for ( usually related to kidney cancer or heart disease and I'm alerted to these by other people) . Sometimes after a post where it's suggested someone could be early they offer the info, but that didn't happen and the discussion became bogged down  by back and forth with the hate mongers that usually follow my  posts.  If they provide an e-mail, they are privately e-mailed. Sometimes, the more important patients refer those less deserving of respect to an early stage moderator- but only if they are aware they are early-stage or bother to take the time. That wasn't an option in this "dilemma".We used to get a lot of new, early patients in chat, but that is no longer happening.

You know,  I tried to talk to that poster, I even offered to hold his/her hand – you must practice selective reading R or you would have noticed.

I do practice selective reading…looking for new, frightened early stage patients in the headings on the main board, commenting on the social side when I think it's an early stage issue or I am involved ( like BG inserting me into her  last two posts)  or it's a fun topic involving someone I enjoy . I don't comment on the main board…the other moderator ot the early stage board does post /solicit  self- identified as early stage patients there …more than one of us posting there pushes more important info down the board. If you were trying to talk to the poster, I wasn't addressing you.

This is only a well- intentioned sugestion to  a revered *well-intentioned Melanoma awareness nut * interested in making the video available… have you asked Jill to e-mail a copy of the video that you can provide to your political and media awareness groups?As an awareness nut, you must be aware that videos can be posted to other sites where links are available and this one might even be able to be re-tooled and reposted under a different You Tube user and linked.

Does your 'schtick' consist of  reminding others -further along in diagnosis -how to behave, when you will have nothing to do with it?

 If others** further along in diagnosis ** are castrating fearful, early stage patients …that would fall into the area of advocating for early stage and the suggestion that a little understanding of  fear goes a long way to respecting the needs of all patients and helping keep this type of argument to a minimum. Perhaps it could assist in funneling these patients into an area where they can discuss their trivial experiences with cancer.

I  have an idea, rather than this particular poster, why not actually invite the fearful to your early stage board?

That would be why I continue to hang around after 10 years of this crap- but we only really ( as opposed to sarcastically) invite those we are certain are early stage and are looking for help or appear to be having trouble with their diagnosis.  That poster was anon ,and, after being ripped a new one, didn't come back to mention they were early stage. I  do not post on the main board unless I have a piece of information directly asked for ( usually related to kidney cancer or heart disease and I'm alerted to these by other people) . Sometimes after a post where it's suggested someone could be early they offer the info, but that didn't happen and the discussion became bogged down  by back and forth with the hate mongers that usually follow my  posts.  If they provide an e-mail, they are privately e-mailed. Sometimes, the more important patients refer those less deserving of respect to an early stage moderator- but only if they are aware they are early-stage or bother to take the time. That wasn't an option in this "dilemma".We used to get a lot of new, early patients in chat, but that is no longer happening.

You know,  I tried to talk to that poster, I even offered to hold his/her hand – you must practice selective reading R or you would have noticed.

I do practice selective reading…looking for new, frightened early stage patients in the headings on the main board, commenting on the social side when I think it's an early stage issue or I am involved ( like BG inserting me into her  last two posts)  or it's a fun topic involving someone I enjoy . I don't comment on the main board…the other moderator ot the early stage board does post /solicit  self- identified as early stage patients there …more than one of us posting there pushes more important info down the board. If you were trying to talk to the poster, I wasn't addressing you.

This is only a well- intentioned sugestion to  a revered *well-intentioned Melanoma awareness nut * interested in making the video available… have you asked Jill to e-mail a copy of the video that you can provide to your political and media awareness groups?As an awareness nut, you must be aware that videos can be posted to other sites where links are available and this one might even be able to be re-tooled and reposted under a different You Tube user and linked.

My only "schtick" is  objecting to this treatment and knowing, from my experience, that those who are further along in diagnosis can help shorten the learning curve and alleviate  the uncomfortable board responses with a bit of understanding…

Does your 'schtick' consist of  reminding others -further along in diagnosis -how to behave, when you will have nothing to do with it?

Maybe you can come onto the early stage board and share your insight into how we should treat the newly diagnosed and fearful? 

I have an idea, rather than this particular poster, why not actually invite the fearful to your early stage board? If only you had done that during the last moral dilemma, then well intentioned melanoma awareness nuts like myself may still have been able to link Eric's youtube videos to our political and media correspondence. (This is something I promised Eric and Jill I would do- but now that the videos are adult only, it is unlikely anyone will make the effort to see them.) 

You know,  I tried to talk to that poster, I even offered to hold his/her hand – you must practice selective reading R or you would have noticed. (Scorn my feeble attempts if you like, at least I tried.)

Since your powers of psychological deduction are rather poor, Doctor, you wouldn't happen to be an ophthalmologist by any chance?

The reason I ask…I swear I *saw * many others posting  their opinions on the moral dilemma long before I shared my own thoughts on fear and Melanoma. I didn't create that topic nor does stating my differing opinion constitute "creating pseudo-dilemmas". I don't agree with how the fearful are treated and it's an all too common occurrence on this board with many stages. If this is a board  where only late stage experience is tolerated or respected-that should be clearly stated- rather than using tactics of humiliation and exclusion. We know far too many early stage patients who have progressed to later stages and passed on to have this sort of thing accepted year after year.

These are the same thoughts I've shared about the subject for almost 10 years. My only "schtick" is  objecting to this treatment and knowing, from my experience,  that those who are further along in diagnosis can help shorten the learning curve and alleviate  the uncomfortable board responses with a bit of understanding… (you know, rather than ripping the fearful a new one). Maybe you can come onto the early stage board and share your insight into how we should treat the newly diagnosed and fearful?  I'm sure they'd appreciate your obvious way of belittling their concerns- I know I'm a big fan.

Whateva's? Cute, but I know you can do better.

Tina/Roxanne/Whateva's schtick:  create pseudo-moral dilemma; insert self as painfully and narcissistically as possible.  then end.

What would you like me to own, LV? I can't abide the religious  nasty? I mentioned it once or twice…or more when it's brought up.  What else? We have different views? Clearly. We don't get along? Also clear. You don't care for me? You've made it known.  From this post alone it is clear that you share your opposing opinions freely and do not hide on and off-site to dish nasty while posting only sugar here.  It's also pretty funny, considering the source,  that you seem to expect me to  take responsibility for things I'm not aware of, misinterpretation or other people's poor choices. No…and I'm not going to change my opinions based upon how the wind blows.

I  believe a subject line  "MODERATOR MODERATOR" (with whatever made up offense follows) is the way the moderator is called by the anonymous cowards around here. As I can't imagine deliberate misinterpretation on your part…let me assure you I was not calling for a moderator. As stated in my post– I'm interested in the response to the exchange- BG's rants are always so colorful and inappropriate.   Her deranged post should sit here forever…then, she could just copy and paste when she is in the mood for a little revenge.  Having to fit her axe into every situation probably takes precious time away from her praying and church-going.

What would you like me to own, LV? I can't abide the religious  nasty? I mentioned it once or twice…or more when it's brought up.  What else? We have different views? Clearly. We don't get along? Also clear. You don't care for me? You've made it known.  From this post alone it is clear that you share your opposing opinions freely and do not hide on and off-site to dish nasty while posting only sugar here.  It's also pretty funny, considering the source,  that you seem to expect me to  take responsibility for things I'm not aware of, misinterpretation or other people's poor choices. No…and I'm not going to change my opinions based upon how the wind blows.

I  believe a subject line  "MODERATOR MODERATOR" (with whatever made up offense follows) is the way the moderator is called by the anonymous cowards around here. As I can't imagine deliberate misinterpretation on your part…let me assure you I was not calling for a moderator. As stated in my post– I'm interested in the response to the exchange- BG's rants are always so colorful and inappropriate.   Her deranged post should sit here forever…then, she could just copy and paste when she is in the mood for a little revenge.  Having to fit her axe into every situation probably takes precious time away from her praying and church-going.

Oh, it's nothing to do with religion, or BG, or the wind.

I think you know full well where my beef with you comes from. That old bit of nastiness that you would never own. Of course, it probably meant more to me, as a then-new widow being told to get over myself, than to you you, for whom it was just another opportunity to look sharp, another feather in your cap of clever, no matter whose bird you had to pluck to get it. Sure, you're Miss Empathy to the new and fearful, 'oh darling let me hold your hand', but not quite so dear to those farther along, 'please, don't stand so close – your bad luck might be contagious.'  So vain, so shallow, so fearful, so willing to use anyone to make yourself look sharp, at least in your own mind.

Expect you to take responsibility for others' poor choices? Absolutely not. You won't even take responsibility for your own, so I find this hilariously ironic.

No, I don't mind sharing my opposing opinions. Not sure what you mean by that, but by the way, just because you oppose them doesn't make them invalid.  But that's a whole other thread.

Oh, it's nothing to do with religion, or BG, or the wind.

I think you know full well where my beef with you comes from. That old bit of nastiness that you would never own. Of course, it probably meant more to me, as a then-new widow being told to get over myself, than to you you, for whom it was just another opportunity to look sharp, another feather in your cap of clever, no matter whose bird you had to pluck to get it. Sure, you're Miss Empathy to the new and fearful, 'oh darling let me hold your hand', but not quite so dear to those farther along, 'please, don't stand so close – your bad luck might be contagious.'  So vain, so shallow, so fearful, so willing to use anyone to make yourself look sharp, at least in your own mind.

Expect you to take responsibility for others' poor choices? Absolutely not. You won't even take responsibility for your own, so I find this hilariously ironic.

No, I don't mind sharing my opposing opinions. Not sure what you mean by that, but by the way, just because you oppose them doesn't make them invalid.  But that's a whole other thread.

You were wrong then, you are still wrong on the time line. In fact, the only thing that was clearly shown was that your posts came hours after mine.

Unlike you, I had no idea (and still don't) who Miss Kitty or Raven or whoever was or is, nor did I care. I saw someone expressing their pain, and being in a vulnerable place myself, responded to that. Then, for some reason, you felt compelled to scold MK and whoever else in that thread for showing vulnerablility. Not sure why you even had a dog in that fight – someone's love loss bothers you enough to tell them to get over it? After that, you were too intent on defending your interpretation of things, your image of being always right, too intent on telling me how wrong I was, to ever acknowledge how it might have come across. To ever say 'whoa, I can see how you thought that, based on the timeline, but that was not my intention.'

I didn't have to make certain I remembered. It was such an eye opener that I could hardly forget. I don't need to portray you in any light; I think we all stand here on our own power. So be it.

You were wrong then, you are still wrong on the time line. In fact, the only thing that was clearly shown was that your posts came hours after mine.

Unlike you, I had no idea (and still don't) who Miss Kitty or Raven or whoever was or is, nor did I care. I saw someone expressing their pain, and being in a vulnerable place myself, responded to that. Then, for some reason, you felt compelled to scold MK and whoever else in that thread for showing vulnerablility. Not sure why you even had a dog in that fight – someone's love loss bothers you enough to tell them to get over it? After that, you were too intent on defending your interpretation of things, your image of being always right, too intent on telling me how wrong I was, to ever acknowledge how it might have come across. To ever say 'whoa, I can see how you thought that, based on the timeline, but that was not my intention.'

I didn't have to make certain I remembered. It was such an eye opener that I could hardly forget. I don't need to portray you in any light; I think we all stand here on our own power. So be it.

 ** told you I was very sorry for your pain

** explained that my comments were not directed at you

** told you who they were directed toward *

* why I commented the way I did and

… that there was a danger of misinterpretation when coming to the Darkside as it was not the place for the sensitive. Only the sensitive  themselves knew if they could handle it and they came at their own risk. The Darkside was clearly the place vulnerable people should have avoided- but many people there  were apologetic if feelings were inadvertently hurt- including me, to you, at the time.

 LV,  this is the last of me trying to right a wrong I didn't commit. My sympathy for your loss is real, but my patience with your insistence I have no sympathy has hit my limit. I'm going to spend the evening relaxing. You, and anyone else who decides to jump on, can snark away ( please have the last word…Barbie just hates it when she can't accuse me of it )

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 ** told you I was very sorry for your pain

** explained that my comments were not directed at you

** told you who they were directed toward *

* why I commented the way I did and

… that there was a danger of misinterpretation when coming to the Darkside as it was not the place for the sensitive. Only the sensitive  themselves knew if they could handle it and they came at their own risk. The Darkside was clearly the place vulnerable people should have avoided- but many people there  were apologetic if feelings were inadvertently hurt- including me, to you, at the time.

 LV,  this is the last of me trying to right a wrong I didn't commit. My sympathy for your loss is real, but my patience with your insistence I have no sympathy has hit my limit. I'm going to spend the evening relaxing. You, and anyone else who decides to jump on, can snark away ( please have the last word…Barbie just hates it when she can't accuse me of it )

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Very nice. But not the issue.

You were still wrong about the timeline.

Very nice. But not the issue.

You were still wrong about the timeline.

Very nice. But not the issue.

You were still wrong about the timeline.

LV is correct on the time line, you seem to be as selective with your memory as you are in your reading choices R…

LV is correct on the time line, you seem to be as selective with your memory as you are in your reading choices R…

bcl, you lost your credibility when BG outed you 2 spending time secretly blog bashing. She shouldn't have mentioned your business.

bcl, you lost your credibility when BG outed you 2 spending time secretly blog bashing. She shouldn't have mentioned your business.

question,  you say I lost credibility when BG outed LV and myself  'secretly blog bashing' … so whose blog did we bash?

question,  you say I lost credibility when BG outed LV and myself  'secretly blog bashing' … so whose blog did we bash?

question,  you say I lost credibility when BG outed LV and myself  'secretly blog bashing' … so whose blog did we bash?

OK I'll bite again. Actually, I'm feeling a huge Nic chuckle coming on here, and I am ever so grateful for that. But before I let you on on the laugh I'd like to point out that I am not going to talk about Nic's private blog, other than to say it was and is primarily for G. And if her mother found it helpful to talk to friends, then I am weeping with joy to have had a small part in that. End of. 

So now I have to ask you this… have you even been following the plot? I gather you are a fan of R's – so what in the world ever gave you the impression I was too?

OK I'll bite again. Actually, I'm feeling a huge Nic chuckle coming on here, and I am ever so grateful for that. But before I let you on on the laugh I'd like to point out that I am not going to talk about Nic's private blog, other than to say it was and is primarily for G. And if her mother found it helpful to talk to friends, then I am weeping with joy to have had a small part in that. End of. 

So now I have to ask you this… have you even been following the plot? I gather you are a fan of R's – so what in the world ever gave you the impression I was too?

Didn't mention LV or a specific blog. Are you adding her as bashing with you and BG? Not doing yourself any favors adding this incrimination information. I don't fan. Lady, you really need to stop providing unflattering information about you and your friends.

I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

Didn't mention LV or a specific blog. Are you adding her as bashing with you and BG? Not doing yourself any favors adding this incrimination information. I don't fan. Lady, you really need to stop providing unflattering information about you and your friends.

I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

bcl, you lost your credibility when BG outed you 2 spending time secretly blog bashing. She shouldn't have mentioned your business.

Oh don't be ridiculous anon – I'll agree you didn't mention LV,  but you certainly were referring to BG's post about Nic's blog when you posted to me. I think most readers know that LV and I were fortunate to have a very close friendship with Nic. And when someone says 'you 2'  to me these days I naturally think of LV and myself. (Sorry LV -but knowing you, I doubt you will hold it against me.)  

I'm not sure if you have lost anyone to melanoma anon, or if you are the patient yourself, but we are grieving for our dear friend and this pettiness is not helping.

Great typos BTW, but dinna fash yerself – I have no desire to know who you are. Incase you haven't noticed, I'm in this game to fight underage tanning (not internet ghosts) and desperately hope to help people catch their primaries sooner. Nic and LV have been more supportive than many of my own family members – and at the risk of giving away too many SECRETS …the three of us have spent more time laughing at my RL antics (and especially LV's for that matter:) than wasting precious time talking about some pitiless poster here. 

bcl, you lost your credibility when BG outed you 2 spending time secretly blog bashing. She shouldn't have mentioned your business.

Oh don't be ridiculous anon – I'll agree you didn't mention LV,  but you certainly were referring to BG's post about Nic's blog when you posted to me. I think most readers know that LV and I were fortunate to have a very close friendship with Nic. And when someone says 'you 2'  to me these days I naturally think of LV and myself. (Sorry LV -but knowing you, I doubt you will hold it against me.)  

I'm not sure if you have lost anyone to melanoma anon, or if you are the patient yourself, but we are grieving for our dear friend and this pettiness is not helping.

Great typos BTW, but dinna fash yerself – I have no desire to know who you are. Incase you haven't noticed, I'm in this game to fight underage tanning (not internet ghosts) and desperately hope to help people catch their primaries sooner. Nic and LV have been more supportive than many of my own family members – and at the risk of giving away too many SECRETS …the three of us have spent more time laughing at my RL antics (and especially LV's for that matter:) than wasting precious time talking about some pitiless poster here. 

ooooh squishy text, I wonder who that can be. 

For R

I get the impression you are (or someone is) telling me that you're going through a hard time about something R. Even though you don't enjoy pity, I am sorry for you if that is the case. But if you want to be treated as anything other than your best self (ie the best self you have shared with me over the years)  better speak up, as like you, I am not a mind reader. 

ps (since pettiness is supposedly good for healing..) I wish you would feel just a little guilty for kidding any stage four about how much time they have on their hands. ( Even if they don't tell you up front that they are not doing well.)  I get that you don't read the main board, but the readers here for the most part, are following each others' medical situations, so I kinda doubt I'm the only one who thinks you go too far with your fun and games.  (I'm just stupid enough to tell you:)

ooooh squishy text, I wonder who that can be. 

For R

I get the impression you are (or someone is) telling me that you're going through a hard time about something R. Even though you don't enjoy pity, I am sorry for you if that is the case. But if you want to be treated as anything other than your best self (ie the best self you have shared with me over the years)  better speak up, as like you, I am not a mind reader. 

ps (since pettiness is supposedly good for healing..) I wish you would feel just a little guilty for kidding any stage four about how much time they have on their hands. ( Even if they don't tell you up front that they are not doing well.)  I get that you don't read the main board, but the readers here for the most part, are following each others' medical situations, so I kinda doubt I'm the only one who thinks you go too far with your fun and games.  (I'm just stupid enough to tell you:)

Squishy text now?  Sherlock, did you also do a search to check if I've ever typed any of the words before? Tedious. Any  long term poster knows all you have to do is type text in an off-site program and paste it here. Oooooh, I wonder who that can be?  You are becoming as irrational as the rest of your tag team. Using your logic, this must mean that you are claiming ownership of all the non-squishy anonymous text?  You can put down your Bassett Hound and magnifying glass…I am not responsible for all the past or future anon posts that use *words*  or the bold type option either .

Ever turn your mirror on yourself ? No matter the topic-you and yours are determined to view my words out of context , using any opportunity to apply a false intention or unkind motive – using anything to accomplish your goals. Linda, besides acting like a pesky harpy- you are always trying too hard. During your latest run I've hit upon who you remind me of…Igor in Frankenstein- the sniveling, smarmy , hand-wringing lackey. You seem to take similar pride in following your friends around and striking out.

It's obvious your circle believes you few are the supreme, valuable / giving members of the social group and you must monitor and direct all interaction here. The only behavior you don't police is your own. We have quite a few Stg4 people here who post like hellions ( some of them 20+ years Stg.4) and *I* am not the only one who respond to them in kind. Funny, but I've never seen you jump and take exception or try to shame any of these responders after they post their snark to a Stage 4. Where are you when these patients are being responded to harshly? Unless it's me-nothing. You couldn't be more hypocritical if you tried. You can also save your faux apology and sarcastic show of concern. If ever in need -you and your group of vindictive, self-satisfied pot-stirrers would be the last place I would turn for help. You are the least self-aware people I've ever had the misfortune to encounter— constantly demanding respectful posting while chumming up every opportunity to  post disrespect of your own. 

 Again,  I'm done responding to your 'good works' , so PLEASE have the last word- nothing I like better than foiling "Barbiedoll and her plastic friends." Have a super-de-dooper weekend, Igorina !

p.s- oh, I can't let this slide…as to your snarky disdain about my  reasons for involvement in the board, I'm a Melanoma patient, with friends and family with Melanoma—posting about the dismissal and nasty treatment  of early stage patients isn't "fun and games" to me any more than your causes are to you. 

Squishy text now?  Sherlock, did you also do a search to check if I've ever typed any of the words before? Tedious. Any  long term poster knows all you have to do is type text in an off-site program and paste it here. Oooooh, I wonder who that can be?  You are becoming as irrational as the rest of your tag team. Using your logic, this must mean that you are claiming ownership of all the non-squishy anonymous text?  You can put down your Bassett Hound and magnifying glass…I am not responsible for all the past or future anon posts that use *words*  or the bold type option either .

Ever turn your mirror on yourself ? No matter the topic-you and yours are determined to view my words out of context , using any opportunity to apply a false intention or unkind motive – using anything to accomplish your goals. Linda, besides acting like a pesky harpy- you are always trying too hard. During your latest run I've hit upon who you remind me of…Igor in Frankenstein- the sniveling, smarmy , hand-wringing lackey. You seem to take similar pride in following your friends around and striking out.

It's obvious your circle believes you few are the supreme, valuable / giving members of the social group and you must monitor and direct all interaction here. The only behavior you don't police is your own. We have quite a few Stg4 people here who post like hellions ( some of them 20+ years Stg.4) and *I* am not the only one who respond to them in kind. Funny, but I've never seen you jump and take exception or try to shame any of these responders after they post their snark to a Stage 4. Where are you when these patients are being responded to harshly? Unless it's me-nothing. You couldn't be more hypocritical if you tried. You can also save your faux apology and sarcastic show of concern. If ever in need -you and your group of vindictive, self-satisfied pot-stirrers would be the last place I would turn for help. You are the least self-aware people I've ever had the misfortune to encounter— constantly demanding respectful posting while chumming up every opportunity to  post disrespect of your own. 

 Again,  I'm done responding to your 'good works' , so PLEASE have the last word- nothing I like better than foiling "Barbiedoll and her plastic friends." Have a super-de-dooper weekend, Igorina !

p.s- oh, I can't let this slide…as to your snarky disdain about my  reasons for involvement in the board, I'm a Melanoma patient, with friends and family with Melanoma—posting about the dismissal and nasty treatment  of early stage patients isn't "fun and games" to me any more than your causes are to you. 

Squishy text now?  Sherlock, did you also do a search to check if I've ever typed any of the words before? Tedious. Any  long term poster knows all you have to do is type text in an off-site program and paste it here. Oooooh, I wonder who that can be?  You are becoming as irrational as the rest of your tag team. Using your logic, this must mean that you are claiming ownership of all the non-squishy anonymous text?  You can put down your Bassett Hound and magnifying glass…I am not responsible for all the past or future anon posts that use *words*  or the bold type option either .

Ever turn your mirror on yourself ? No matter the topic-you and yours are determined to view my words out of context , using any opportunity to apply a false intention or unkind motive – using anything to accomplish your goals. Linda, besides acting like a pesky harpy- you are always trying too hard. During your latest run I've hit upon who you remind me of…Igor in Frankenstein- the sniveling, smarmy , hand-wringing lackey. You seem to take similar pride in following your friends around and striking out.

It's obvious your circle believes you few are the supreme, valuable / giving members of the social group and you must monitor and direct all interaction here. The only behavior you don't police is your own. We have quite a few Stg4 people here who post like hellions ( some of them 20+ years Stg.4) and *I* am not the only one who respond to them in kind. Funny, but I've never seen you jump and take exception or try to shame any of these responders after they post their snark to a Stage 4. Where are you when these patients are being responded to harshly? Unless it's me-nothing. You couldn't be more hypocritical if you tried. You can also save your faux apology and sarcastic show of concern. If ever in need -you and your group of vindictive, self-satisfied pot-stirrers would be the last place I would turn for help. You are the least self-aware people I've ever had the misfortune to encounter— constantly demanding respectful posting while chumming up every opportunity to  post disrespect of your own. 

 Again,  I'm done responding to your 'good works' , so PLEASE have the last word- nothing I like better than foiling "Barbiedoll and her plastic friends." Have a super-de-dooper weekend, Igorina !

p.s- oh, I can't let this slide…as to your snarky disdain about my  reasons for involvement in the board, I'm a Melanoma patient, with friends and family with Melanoma—posting about the dismissal and nasty treatment  of early stage patients isn't "fun and games" to me any more than your causes are to you. 

Narcisissists only care about winning whether they're right or wrong. She cannot process actual facts, timelines, etc.  Everything is filtered through her narcissism. Even though you can never win an argument with her, she will always be the loser. 

Narcisissists only care about winning whether they're right or wrong. She cannot process actual facts, timelines, etc.  Everything is filtered through her narcissism. Even though you can never win an argument with her, she will always be the loser. 

This doesn't read like a matter of right or wrong. Holding or defending your opinion doesn't make you a narcissist, not doing so will make you a doormat. People are hurt and searching for ways to make sense of their pain.  Looks like too many of you filter everything through hatred. As long as people continue to operate this way, they  lose and will always be looking for the next chance to score. Let it go, this kind of hatred isn't becoming, warranted, reasonable or healthy for anyone involved.

This doesn't read like a matter of right or wrong. Holding or defending your opinion doesn't make you a narcissist, not doing so will make you a doormat. People are hurt and searching for ways to make sense of their pain.  Looks like too many of you filter everything through hatred. As long as people continue to operate this way, they  lose and will always be looking for the next chance to score. Let it go, this kind of hatred isn't becoming, warranted, reasonable or healthy for anyone involved.

This doesn't read like a matter of right or wrong. Holding or defending your opinion doesn't make you a narcissist, not doing so will make you a doormat. People are hurt and searching for ways to make sense of their pain.  Looks like too many of you filter everything through hatred. As long as people continue to operate this way, they  lose and will always be looking for the next chance to score. Let it go, this kind of hatred isn't becoming, warranted, reasonable or healthy for anyone involved.

Narcisissists only care about winning whether they're right or wrong. She cannot process actual facts, timelines, etc.  Everything is filtered through her narcissism. Even though you can never win an argument with her, she will always be the loser. 

ooooh squishy text, I wonder who that can be. 

For R

I get the impression you are (or someone is) telling me that you're going through a hard time about something R. Even though you don't enjoy pity, I am sorry for you if that is the case. But if you want to be treated as anything other than your best self (ie the best self you have shared with me over the years)  better speak up, as like you, I am not a mind reader. 

ps (since pettiness is supposedly good for healing..) I wish you would feel just a little guilty for kidding any stage four about how much time they have on their hands. ( Even if they don't tell you up front that they are not doing well.)  I get that you don't read the main board, but the readers here for the most part, are following each others' medical situations, so I kinda doubt I'm the only one who thinks you go too far with your fun and games.  (I'm just stupid enough to tell you:)

bcl, you lost your credibility when BG outed you 2 spending time secretly blog bashing. She shouldn't have mentioned your business.

Oh don't be ridiculous anon – I'll agree you didn't mention LV,  but you certainly were referring to BG's post about Nic's blog when you posted to me. I think most readers know that LV and I were fortunate to have a very close friendship with Nic. And when someone says 'you 2'  to me these days I naturally think of LV and myself. (Sorry LV -but knowing you, I doubt you will hold it against me.)  

I'm not sure if you have lost anyone to melanoma anon, or if you are the patient yourself, but we are grieving for our dear friend and this pettiness is not helping.

Great typos BTW, but dinna fash yerself – I have no desire to know who you are. Incase you haven't noticed, I'm in this game to fight underage tanning (not internet ghosts) and desperately hope to help people catch their primaries sooner. Nic and LV have been more supportive than many of my own family members – and at the risk of giving away too many SECRETS …the three of us have spent more time laughing at my RL antics (and especially LV's for that matter:) than wasting precious time talking about some pitiless poster here. 

Didn't mention LV or a specific blog. Are you adding her as bashing with you and BG? Not doing yourself any favors adding this incrimination information. I don't fan. Lady, you really need to stop providing unflattering information about you and your friends.

I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

OK I'll bite again. Actually, I'm feeling a huge Nic chuckle coming on here, and I am ever so grateful for that. But before I let you on on the laugh I'd like to point out that I am not going to talk about Nic's private blog, other than to say it was and is primarily for G. And if her mother found it helpful to talk to friends, then I am weeping with joy to have had a small part in that. End of. 

So now I have to ask you this… have you even been following the plot? I gather you are a fan of R's – so what in the world ever gave you the impression I was too?

bcl, you lost your credibility when BG outed you 2 spending time secretly blog bashing. She shouldn't have mentioned your business.

LV is correct on the time line, you seem to be as selective with your memory as you are in your reading choices R…

 ** told you I was very sorry for your pain

** explained that my comments were not directed at you

** told you who they were directed toward *

* why I commented the way I did and

… that there was a danger of misinterpretation when coming to the Darkside as it was not the place for the sensitive. Only the sensitive  themselves knew if they could handle it and they came at their own risk. The Darkside was clearly the place vulnerable people should have avoided- but many people there  were apologetic if feelings were inadvertently hurt- including me, to you, at the time.

 LV,  this is the last of me trying to right a wrong I didn't commit. My sympathy for your loss is real, but my patience with your insistence I have no sympathy has hit my limit. I'm going to spend the evening relaxing. You, and anyone else who decides to jump on, can snark away ( please have the last word…Barbie just hates it when she can't accuse me of it )

Posted by R on October 15, 2008 at 09:46:55:
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You were wrong then, you are still wrong on the time line. In fact, the only thing that was clearly shown was that your posts came hours after mine.

Unlike you, I had no idea (and still don't) who Miss Kitty or Raven or whoever was or is, nor did I care. I saw someone expressing their pain, and being in a vulnerable place myself, responded to that. Then, for some reason, you felt compelled to scold MK and whoever else in that thread for showing vulnerablility. Not sure why you even had a dog in that fight – someone's love loss bothers you enough to tell them to get over it? After that, you were too intent on defending your interpretation of things, your image of being always right, too intent on telling me how wrong I was, to ever acknowledge how it might have come across. To ever say 'whoa, I can see how you thought that, based on the timeline, but that was not my intention.'

I didn't have to make certain I remembered. It was such an eye opener that I could hardly forget. I don't need to portray you in any light; I think we all stand here on our own power. So be it.

Oh, it's nothing to do with religion, or BG, or the wind.

I think you know full well where my beef with you comes from. That old bit of nastiness that you would never own. Of course, it probably meant more to me, as a then-new widow being told to get over myself, than to you you, for whom it was just another opportunity to look sharp, another feather in your cap of clever, no matter whose bird you had to pluck to get it. Sure, you're Miss Empathy to the new and fearful, 'oh darling let me hold your hand', but not quite so dear to those farther along, 'please, don't stand so close – your bad luck might be contagious.'  So vain, so shallow, so fearful, so willing to use anyone to make yourself look sharp, at least in your own mind.

Expect you to take responsibility for others' poor choices? Absolutely not. You won't even take responsibility for your own, so I find this hilariously ironic.

No, I don't mind sharing my opposing opinions. Not sure what you mean by that, but by the way, just because you oppose them doesn't make them invalid.  But that's a whole other thread.

What would you like me to own, LV? I can't abide the religious  nasty? I mentioned it once or twice…or more when it's brought up.  What else? We have different views? Clearly. We don't get along? Also clear. You don't care for me? You've made it known.  From this post alone it is clear that you share your opposing opinions freely and do not hide on and off-site to dish nasty while posting only sugar here.  It's also pretty funny, considering the source,  that you seem to expect me to  take responsibility for things I'm not aware of, misinterpretation or other people's poor choices. No…and I'm not going to change my opinions based upon how the wind blows.

I  believe a subject line  "MODERATOR MODERATOR" (with whatever made up offense follows) is the way the moderator is called by the anonymous cowards around here. As I can't imagine deliberate misinterpretation on your part…let me assure you I was not calling for a moderator. As stated in my post– I'm interested in the response to the exchange- BG's rants are always so colorful and inappropriate.   Her deranged post should sit here forever…then, she could just copy and paste when she is in the mood for a little revenge.  Having to fit her axe into every situation probably takes precious time away from her praying and church-going.

What, are you calling out for the Moderator now? Pretty funny, considering the source.

(Talk about someone who never 'owns' their own crap!)