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Regional lymph node disection following positive sentinel lymph node in groin

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    jimjoeb
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      I'm having this procedure on June 10th. Can someone explain the actual procedure to me and what I can expect immediately following the surgery and in the short term after that.

      I'm scared and the more facts that I have, I'm hoping it will help to at least eliminate the fear of the unknown. I had my WLE and SLNB on May 3.

      I'm having this procedure on June 10th. Can someone explain the actual procedure to me and what I can expect immediately following the surgery and in the short term after that.

      I'm scared and the more facts that I have, I'm hoping it will help to at least eliminate the fear of the unknown. I had my WLE and SLNB on May 3.

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        Ninja
        Participant

          Hi,

          My husband (diagnosed with Stage 3A melanoma in 2004) had regional lymph node dissection in the groin after two sentinel nodes resulted microscopically positive to melanoma.

          After surgery he had to keep a small catheter to drain the liquid coming out of the wound. After three or four days they took the catheter out.

          He has been wearing compression stocking on th eright leg since, to avoid edema (swollen leg) and it has worked for him.

          I wish you the best.

          Consuelo (Husband Diagnosed Stage IIIa – June 2004 – 1 year INF)

          Ninja
          Participant

            Hi,

            My husband (diagnosed with Stage 3A melanoma in 2004) had regional lymph node dissection in the groin after two sentinel nodes resulted microscopically positive to melanoma.

            After surgery he had to keep a small catheter to drain the liquid coming out of the wound. After three or four days they took the catheter out.

            He has been wearing compression stocking on th eright leg since, to avoid edema (swollen leg) and it has worked for him.

            I wish you the best.

            Consuelo (Husband Diagnosed Stage IIIa – June 2004 – 1 year INF)

            SoCalDave
            Participant

              With mine they rerouted the sartorius muscle and I was off work for about a month. Had 2 drains at the top of the leg and those stayed in for about 2 or 3 weeks. 

              I could walk okay but couldn't go up stairs or even go up or down a single step. Find out if they are re-routing that muscle because it will make a big difference in recovery. Had to keep it elevated and went through plenty of pain pills, but again, more because of that muscle.

              I do have lymphedema and have to wear a knee high compression stocking during the day, but nothing at night. 

              Hope that helps!

              SoCalDave
              Participant

                With mine they rerouted the sartorius muscle and I was off work for about a month. Had 2 drains at the top of the leg and those stayed in for about 2 or 3 weeks. 

                I could walk okay but couldn't go up stairs or even go up or down a single step. Find out if they are re-routing that muscle because it will make a big difference in recovery. Had to keep it elevated and went through plenty of pain pills, but again, more because of that muscle.

                I do have lymphedema and have to wear a knee high compression stocking during the day, but nothing at night. 

                Hope that helps!

                washoegal
                Participant

                  I didn't find the procedure too bad.  It depends on where the lymph nodes are, and how many you have, every one has a different number I had 24 under my right arm with and addition 4 sentinel nodes.  I checked in the day of the surgery.  Like with most surgeries it's hurry up and wait, which I think is the worst part.  You meet the anesthesiologist and maybe more of the team, doc talks at you a little, nurse preps you.  If you got at all sick to your stomach the first time tell the anesthesiologist they can help with that. 

                  I woke  up with maybe a three inch incision, a catheter (if that is a correct term) and a drain tube.  They kept me over night.  No pain, but the nurse kept me pumped full of pain med.  Went home with a RX for Vicodin and instructions for taking care of the drain.  Drain is pretty simple, easier to have someone else do it but after a week or so, I was able to do it myself.  Sleep with the area where the drain is slightly elevated, like with a pillow next to it, I tried to keep my arm on the pillow (ha).  Never was too much pain, just a such inconvience.  My drain stayed in for 25 days because I wouldn't stop draining so doc finally pulled it for fear of infection. 

                  Healing once the drain is out may be slow, it is not unusual to have a nerve or two nicked in the process.  I'm 15 months post-surgery and nerves are just about done healing.  However, if that's my biggest worry I can deal with it! 

                  Like I said, it really isn't that bad.  Yes, i ended up with some lympedema.  But as soon as I was completely healed I saw a massage specialist and it is pretty well controlled now.  I do have a compression sleeve for when I fly.  You'll be fine and come through with flying colors!

                  Good Luck,

                  Mary

                  Stage 3

                  washoegal
                  Participant

                    I didn't find the procedure too bad.  It depends on where the lymph nodes are, and how many you have, every one has a different number I had 24 under my right arm with and addition 4 sentinel nodes.  I checked in the day of the surgery.  Like with most surgeries it's hurry up and wait, which I think is the worst part.  You meet the anesthesiologist and maybe more of the team, doc talks at you a little, nurse preps you.  If you got at all sick to your stomach the first time tell the anesthesiologist they can help with that. 

                    I woke  up with maybe a three inch incision, a catheter (if that is a correct term) and a drain tube.  They kept me over night.  No pain, but the nurse kept me pumped full of pain med.  Went home with a RX for Vicodin and instructions for taking care of the drain.  Drain is pretty simple, easier to have someone else do it but after a week or so, I was able to do it myself.  Sleep with the area where the drain is slightly elevated, like with a pillow next to it, I tried to keep my arm on the pillow (ha).  Never was too much pain, just a such inconvience.  My drain stayed in for 25 days because I wouldn't stop draining so doc finally pulled it for fear of infection. 

                    Healing once the drain is out may be slow, it is not unusual to have a nerve or two nicked in the process.  I'm 15 months post-surgery and nerves are just about done healing.  However, if that's my biggest worry I can deal with it! 

                    Like I said, it really isn't that bad.  Yes, i ended up with some lympedema.  But as soon as I was completely healed I saw a massage specialist and it is pretty well controlled now.  I do have a compression sleeve for when I fly.  You'll be fine and come through with flying colors!

                    Good Luck,

                    Mary

                    Stage 3

                    jimjoeb
                    Participant

                      Thanks for the replies. My positive sentinel node was in the left groin (inguinal area). So particular thanks to those who shared your experiences for the same area.

                      Does this procedure cause the lymph nodes below it to atrophy, so that I effectively don't have a lymphatic system in my leg afterwards? I'm guessing that the draining is the draining of the lympatic fluid from my leg.

                        Lisa13
                        Participant

                          My drain was in for a month and I had my right superficial groin lymph nodes removed.  It's been almost 3 months since my procedure and I still have numbness in my inner thigh along with some minor swelling up top, but nothing that prevents me from doing whatever I want.  The fluid is lymphatic fluid – it will slowly taper off when it's ready, but don't be alarmed by the amount of fluid that comes out.  

                          I was told by my surgeon that once the lymph nodes are removed, other nodes pick up where they left off.  You still have deep inguinal nodes (unless you get those removed) so those will still do the job. 

                          Move around lots and sit at a 45 degree angle to prevent swelling.

                          All the best,

                          Lisa

                          Lisa13
                          Participant

                            My drain was in for a month and I had my right superficial groin lymph nodes removed.  It's been almost 3 months since my procedure and I still have numbness in my inner thigh along with some minor swelling up top, but nothing that prevents me from doing whatever I want.  The fluid is lymphatic fluid – it will slowly taper off when it's ready, but don't be alarmed by the amount of fluid that comes out.  

                            I was told by my surgeon that once the lymph nodes are removed, other nodes pick up where they left off.  You still have deep inguinal nodes (unless you get those removed) so those will still do the job. 

                            Move around lots and sit at a 45 degree angle to prevent swelling.

                            All the best,

                            Lisa

                          jimjoeb
                          Participant

                            Thanks for the replies. My positive sentinel node was in the left groin (inguinal area). So particular thanks to those who shared your experiences for the same area.

                            Does this procedure cause the lymph nodes below it to atrophy, so that I effectively don't have a lymphatic system in my leg afterwards? I'm guessing that the draining is the draining of the lympatic fluid from my leg.

                            mcanova
                            Participant

                              I was in the hospital for 4 days to have the remaining lymph nodes in my left groin removed.  The surgeon had to re-route a muscle, which must not be done all of the time.  I only noticed one other person mentioned it.  I think that made it harder to move and added significantly to the discomfort.  I tried to go back to work the next week, but could only get out of the car if I could open the car door all of the way, which was not always possible depending on parking space.  I worked out of the house.

                              My drain was removed just before I went home from the hospital so I did not have to deal with it.  I was told to wear a compression stocking for a year.  I wore it, and hated it the entire time.  I still occasionally wear it, but only if I notice any swelling. Right after surgery I did experience minor swelling of upper leg and groin, which was very uncomfortable, but that went away over time.

                              My entire upper leg was numb for quite a while.  You could poke me with a stick and I could not feel it.  Now 4 years later, much of the feeling has come back, but there is still a numb area close to the groin. 

                              All of this was a surprise to me.  I did not know what to expect and had no one to ask.  I'm glad we can give you a little heads up.

                              Mike from Richmond

                                jimjoeb
                                Participant

                                  Thanks everyone, this is very helpful! I'm trying to confirm with my surgeon exactly which nodes she will be taken. When she explained the procedure to my husband and I, it was at the same time that we learned that the primary SLN was postive. So were a bit in shock and not processing enough what she was telling us to think of questions. I've left some questions with her office and I'm sure that some additional info will be shared.

                                  I'll keep updating when I learn more and certainly after the procedure.

                                  jimjoeb
                                  Participant

                                    Thanks everyone, this is very helpful! I'm trying to confirm with my surgeon exactly which nodes she will be taken. When she explained the procedure to my husband and I, it was at the same time that we learned that the primary SLN was postive. So were a bit in shock and not processing enough what she was telling us to think of questions. I've left some questions with her office and I'm sure that some additional info will be shared.

                                    I'll keep updating when I learn more and certainly after the procedure.

                                  mcanova
                                  Participant

                                    I was in the hospital for 4 days to have the remaining lymph nodes in my left groin removed.  The surgeon had to re-route a muscle, which must not be done all of the time.  I only noticed one other person mentioned it.  I think that made it harder to move and added significantly to the discomfort.  I tried to go back to work the next week, but could only get out of the car if I could open the car door all of the way, which was not always possible depending on parking space.  I worked out of the house.

                                    My drain was removed just before I went home from the hospital so I did not have to deal with it.  I was told to wear a compression stocking for a year.  I wore it, and hated it the entire time.  I still occasionally wear it, but only if I notice any swelling. Right after surgery I did experience minor swelling of upper leg and groin, which was very uncomfortable, but that went away over time.

                                    My entire upper leg was numb for quite a while.  You could poke me with a stick and I could not feel it.  Now 4 years later, much of the feeling has come back, but there is still a numb area close to the groin. 

                                    All of this was a surprise to me.  I did not know what to expect and had no one to ask.  I'm glad we can give you a little heads up.

                                    Mike from Richmond

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