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Non completion of Ipi/Nivo combo

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    tim brown
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      About to start Ipi/Nivolumab combo and one of my concerns is whether I will be able to tolerate the regime given that I contracted colitis  –  admittedly at level 1/2- whilst on adjuvant Pembro.

      I think I read a paper that suggested  inability to complete the 4 initial doses doesn’t necessarily mean there won’t be a positive response. Can’t find that anywhere now, so was I dreaming ??

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        Bubbles
        Participant
          I believe the info you seek is within this post I completed yesterday and put up here and on my blog:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2021/06/asco-2021-outcomes-of-treatments-on.html

          The intro to the second abstract in this post gives you a link to an article from ASCO 2016 in which the  ipi/nivo Checkmate 069 trial showed overall survival at 18 months was not appreciably different between those who completed all the combo doses and those who did not.  The second ASCO abstract itself, from this year, notes that in particular, those who show clinical benefit to the combo early, demonstrate survival outcomes similar to those who complete all 4 combo doses even if they take fewer doses.

          Hope that helps.  Celeste

          MelWave
          Participant
            Hi Tim,

            Yes this is true and in fact 4 doses was a somewhat arbitrary choice when ipi/nivo regimen was introduced. Because the data shows that those do less doses statistically do just as we as those who don’t there is now a trial underway in Sloan Kettering Hospital run by dr Postow where they just stop at 2 doses when patients show response (even not full response). They do ct after 2 doses to check for response and decide wether to give more. I am not sure when they will publish full results but preliminary results were encouraging and they are already published – if you want I could find it.

            The toxicity of the drug is somewhat correlated with response, since basically when it activates you immune system against cancer it also activates it against your own tissues and organs. It is not a full correlation and a few people are lucky to have effect on their cancer without serious side effects and also vice versa. So you are likely to have a response and some side effects together.

            Good luck with the treatment.

            tim brown
            Participant
              Thank you guys- most interesting. Mel: When I was introduced to adjuvant Pembro, I  was lead to believe that there was no correlation between adverse events and efficacy. Are you saying this isn’t the case with the combo, or was I misinformed?
              guynamedbilly
              Participant
                Good luck.  It causes a lot of people problems, but sometimes it don’t.  I have completed the full four doses a couple of different times.  Only developed colitis towards the end of the last time.
                sing123
                Participant
                  Tim, my melanoma specialist at Mayo Jax told me (and showed me through stats) a lack of correlation between the number of doses given and overall survival and progression free survival. For this reason, I have only had one infusion of ipi/nivo! Because I immediately had side effects. I have just reached the one year mark of NED as a Stage 4 person.
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