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    Michelle
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      My dad age 76 was diagnosed with stage IV melanoma cancer in November 2011.  He had it just in his lungs in November and now has it in his liver too.  He has now completed all the tests in order to determine his options of treatment.  Today he was given the following 3 options:

        1) Yervoy, which we were told has about a 20 to 30% response, 10% of patients have long term benefits  –  some side effects can include: colitis,

      My dad age 76 was diagnosed with stage IV melanoma cancer in November 2011.  He had it just in his lungs in November and now has it in his liver too.  He has now completed all the tests in order to determine his options of treatment.  Today he was given the following 3 options:

        1) Yervoy, which we were told has about a 20 to 30% response, 10% of patients have long term benefits  –  some side effects can include: colitis,

      10%, hepatitis, itchy rash, irritation to liver,severe headaches, low thyroid, and fatigue.
       
        2)Temedor: 12-15% response.  Doc said that it is extremely unlikely that it will cure him.  As it is chemotherapy, some side effects can include nausea and vomiting, risk of infection, loss of appetite, and diaherria.
       
        3)Supportive Care: care to improve the quality of life.
       
      My dad already decided that he will go with option 3 – supportive Care.  My dad has had Parkinson's for about 13 years now and I know it is wearing him down as his body has been declining every year.  He can still get around, but his legs have become much weaker and overall strength is much weaker.  He uses a cane and some days his legs just don't cooperate.  He does have good days though where he will walk a half a mile to a mile or so. 
      I give this background because I'm thinking about trying to convince him to try the Yervoy, but wondering if I am being too selfish in not considering his fear of all the side effects of Yervoy.  The pharmacist made it sound like the side effects are definitely manageable.  Just wondering if because of his age and Parkinson's is he going to have a much tougher time at the side effects.  Does anyone have any experience of a loved one in this age category that has gone with the Yervoy treatment?
       
      Thanks for any input you can provide.
      Michelle
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        davidfromsingapore
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          I am so sorry to hear your news Michelle.  Your assesment of the situation seems very accurate.  My father is 72.  He is still quite capable of making his own decisions, so if it were  him in this situation, I would have to support his decision.  I think that if you feel your father is also capableof making his own deicisions, that all you can do is educate him about the choices and support the decision he makes.  Those drugs do indeed come with side effects, but from what I've read on this board, the side effects vary from person to person.  Best case scenario, he would take Yervoy,  not have any side effects, respond and live for 20 plus years.  At some point you will have to accept his choice though.  I will be thinking about you and hope that whatever decision he makes will give you peace of mind. 

          David

          davidfromsingapore
          Participant

            I am so sorry to hear your news Michelle.  Your assesment of the situation seems very accurate.  My father is 72.  He is still quite capable of making his own decisions, so if it were  him in this situation, I would have to support his decision.  I think that if you feel your father is also capableof making his own deicisions, that all you can do is educate him about the choices and support the decision he makes.  Those drugs do indeed come with side effects, but from what I've read on this board, the side effects vary from person to person.  Best case scenario, he would take Yervoy,  not have any side effects, respond and live for 20 plus years.  At some point you will have to accept his choice though.  I will be thinking about you and hope that whatever decision he makes will give you peace of mind. 

            David

            davidfromsingapore
            Participant

              I am so sorry to hear your news Michelle.  Your assesment of the situation seems very accurate.  My father is 72.  He is still quite capable of making his own decisions, so if it were  him in this situation, I would have to support his decision.  I think that if you feel your father is also capableof making his own deicisions, that all you can do is educate him about the choices and support the decision he makes.  Those drugs do indeed come with side effects, but from what I've read on this board, the side effects vary from person to person.  Best case scenario, he would take Yervoy,  not have any side effects, respond and live for 20 plus years.  At some point you will have to accept his choice though.  I will be thinking about you and hope that whatever decision he makes will give you peace of mind. 

              David

              jmmm
              Participant
                I’m so sorry to hear about your Dad. A few things to think about….Yervoy doesn’t have that high of a success rate. I think it’s about 10% or so, but when it works, it works well. My husband did Yervoy over the summer with no side effects, even though they scared us silly with all the possibities. All the side effects are treatable, but it is scary to think about. Temador is an older drug that doesn’t work well on melanoma..it’s typically used for brain mets. I think the percentage our melanoma specialist gave us was 5-6%. I think the side effects aren’t that bad with Temador.
                It sounds like your Dad has made an educated decision, based on his age and current health. It might be worth getting a second opinion from a melanoma specialist to see any additional suggestions. The other option is Zelboraf, but he’d need to have one of his tumors removed to see if it has the Braf mutation. Zelboraf works fast, buys a few months, but has some uncomfortable side effects. There are also some pd-1 trials out there, but his age an underlying health issued would probably eliminate him from the trials.
                It’s a difficult decision to make for anyone, and I’m sure difficult for you to accept. Or situation is so different because my husband is only 38 and we have 3 young kids. He’s fighting hard to be around as long as he can. Even at his age, and general “good” health, there are days he just struggles with the physical and emotional challenges of this cancer and the treatments. I couldn’t imagine dealing with it all at your father’s age.
                Prayers to your family for your dad to make the right decision for him and for peace for you OT accept whatever decision he makes.
                jmmm
                Participant
                  I’m so sorry to hear about your Dad. A few things to think about….Yervoy doesn’t have that high of a success rate. I think it’s about 10% or so, but when it works, it works well. My husband did Yervoy over the summer with no side effects, even though they scared us silly with all the possibities. All the side effects are treatable, but it is scary to think about. Temador is an older drug that doesn’t work well on melanoma..it’s typically used for brain mets. I think the percentage our melanoma specialist gave us was 5-6%. I think the side effects aren’t that bad with Temador.
                  It sounds like your Dad has made an educated decision, based on his age and current health. It might be worth getting a second opinion from a melanoma specialist to see any additional suggestions. The other option is Zelboraf, but he’d need to have one of his tumors removed to see if it has the Braf mutation. Zelboraf works fast, buys a few months, but has some uncomfortable side effects. There are also some pd-1 trials out there, but his age an underlying health issued would probably eliminate him from the trials.
                  It’s a difficult decision to make for anyone, and I’m sure difficult for you to accept. Or situation is so different because my husband is only 38 and we have 3 young kids. He’s fighting hard to be around as long as he can. Even at his age, and general “good” health, there are days he just struggles with the physical and emotional challenges of this cancer and the treatments. I couldn’t imagine dealing with it all at your father’s age.
                  Prayers to your family for your dad to make the right decision for him and for peace for you OT accept whatever decision he makes.
                  jmmm
                  Participant
                    I’m so sorry to hear about your Dad. A few things to think about….Yervoy doesn’t have that high of a success rate. I think it’s about 10% or so, but when it works, it works well. My husband did Yervoy over the summer with no side effects, even though they scared us silly with all the possibities. All the side effects are treatable, but it is scary to think about. Temador is an older drug that doesn’t work well on melanoma..it’s typically used for brain mets. I think the percentage our melanoma specialist gave us was 5-6%. I think the side effects aren’t that bad with Temador.
                    It sounds like your Dad has made an educated decision, based on his age and current health. It might be worth getting a second opinion from a melanoma specialist to see any additional suggestions. The other option is Zelboraf, but he’d need to have one of his tumors removed to see if it has the Braf mutation. Zelboraf works fast, buys a few months, but has some uncomfortable side effects. There are also some pd-1 trials out there, but his age an underlying health issued would probably eliminate him from the trials.
                    It’s a difficult decision to make for anyone, and I’m sure difficult for you to accept. Or situation is so different because my husband is only 38 and we have 3 young kids. He’s fighting hard to be around as long as he can. Even at his age, and general “good” health, there are days he just struggles with the physical and emotional challenges of this cancer and the treatments. I couldn’t imagine dealing with it all at your father’s age.
                    Prayers to your family for your dad to make the right decision for him and for peace for you OT accept whatever decision he makes.
                    cwu
                    Participant

                      Hi Michelle,

                      I certainly understand how difficult this decision is for you and your family. We went through a similar experience when my dad  was given the option of Yervoy.  Dad is 83 and he is fairly healthy for his age. We decided that the potential benefits of Yervoy was worth the risks.  He was on Yervoy from mid Sept – mid November and his side effects were rash and significant itching.  After his last infusion in mid-November, he was hospitalized for 10 days because he was confused and weak because of the drop in his sodium level.  His oncologist think this was a side effect of Yervoy, it may have cause imflamation of one part of his brain that controls the sodium. He was given steroids at the hospital and sodium via IV.  Dad is ok now and we still dont know whether Yervoy works for him, it doesnt seem to work since his lesions on his leg, which are on the surface of his skin and are visible, haven't flattened out or regressed but they haven't gotten grown or gotten bigger either. His oncoligist told us that "older folks tend to have a more difficult time" with Yervoy. Yervoy side effects can also last for awhile, even after you are done with the treatment. My dad is still uncomfortable with the itchiness and still has to take itchiness meds.

                      I am not trying to scare you with what happened to my dad but Yervoy does have side effects and some side effects may not be known yet as the drug is still very new.  It was an easier decision for us because both mom and dad wanted the Yervoy treatment.  Good luck.

                      Chau 

                      cwu
                      Participant

                        Hi Michelle,

                        I certainly understand how difficult this decision is for you and your family. We went through a similar experience when my dad  was given the option of Yervoy.  Dad is 83 and he is fairly healthy for his age. We decided that the potential benefits of Yervoy was worth the risks.  He was on Yervoy from mid Sept – mid November and his side effects were rash and significant itching.  After his last infusion in mid-November, he was hospitalized for 10 days because he was confused and weak because of the drop in his sodium level.  His oncologist think this was a side effect of Yervoy, it may have cause imflamation of one part of his brain that controls the sodium. He was given steroids at the hospital and sodium via IV.  Dad is ok now and we still dont know whether Yervoy works for him, it doesnt seem to work since his lesions on his leg, which are on the surface of his skin and are visible, haven't flattened out or regressed but they haven't gotten grown or gotten bigger either. His oncoligist told us that "older folks tend to have a more difficult time" with Yervoy. Yervoy side effects can also last for awhile, even after you are done with the treatment. My dad is still uncomfortable with the itchiness and still has to take itchiness meds.

                        I am not trying to scare you with what happened to my dad but Yervoy does have side effects and some side effects may not be known yet as the drug is still very new.  It was an easier decision for us because both mom and dad wanted the Yervoy treatment.  Good luck.

                        Chau 

                        cwu
                        Participant

                          Hi Michelle,

                          I certainly understand how difficult this decision is for you and your family. We went through a similar experience when my dad  was given the option of Yervoy.  Dad is 83 and he is fairly healthy for his age. We decided that the potential benefits of Yervoy was worth the risks.  He was on Yervoy from mid Sept – mid November and his side effects were rash and significant itching.  After his last infusion in mid-November, he was hospitalized for 10 days because he was confused and weak because of the drop in his sodium level.  His oncologist think this was a side effect of Yervoy, it may have cause imflamation of one part of his brain that controls the sodium. He was given steroids at the hospital and sodium via IV.  Dad is ok now and we still dont know whether Yervoy works for him, it doesnt seem to work since his lesions on his leg, which are on the surface of his skin and are visible, haven't flattened out or regressed but they haven't gotten grown or gotten bigger either. His oncoligist told us that "older folks tend to have a more difficult time" with Yervoy. Yervoy side effects can also last for awhile, even after you are done with the treatment. My dad is still uncomfortable with the itchiness and still has to take itchiness meds.

                          I am not trying to scare you with what happened to my dad but Yervoy does have side effects and some side effects may not be known yet as the drug is still very new.  It was an easier decision for us because both mom and dad wanted the Yervoy treatment.  Good luck.

                          Chau 

                          Michelle
                          Participant

                            Thank you all so much for your responses.  You've given me some good "food-for-thought".  Bless you for taking the time to care!

                            If anyone has any more thoughts to add, I'm always appreciative!

                            Michelle

                            Michelle
                            Participant

                              Thank you all so much for your responses.  You've given me some good "food-for-thought".  Bless you for taking the time to care!

                              If anyone has any more thoughts to add, I'm always appreciative!

                              Michelle

                              Michelle
                              Participant

                                Thank you all so much for your responses.  You've given me some good "food-for-thought".  Bless you for taking the time to care!

                                If anyone has any more thoughts to add, I'm always appreciative!

                                Michelle

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