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- April 6, 2013 at 10:38 pm
I had melanoma on my collar bone in 1981 which was removed surgically and I was fine for decades. Now it has come back in my lungs. I had one tumor removed last summer, July 2012, and now I have 7 small tumors in my lungs. My oncologist is recommending a clinical trial of MK-3475. Has anyone had experience with this drug?
I had melanoma on my collar bone in 1981 which was removed surgically and I was fine for decades. Now it has come back in my lungs. I had one tumor removed last summer, July 2012, and now I have 7 small tumors in my lungs. My oncologist is recommending a clinical trial of MK-3475. Has anyone had experience with this drug?
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- April 7, 2013 at 12:27 am
I'm sorry to hear that your melanoma has returned.
Are you being seen by a specialist at a melanoma clinic/center? I'm surprised that your doctor is suggesting you participate in a trial when there are other options available for Stage IV patients.
If your melanoma has a mutation called BRAF, you can take Zelboraf. In a nutshell, Zelboraf shrinks tumors quickly. Some folks have had long-lasting responses while others have not. When you pair Zelboraf with something called a MEK inhibitor folks do better. The only catch is that MEK inhibitors have not been FDA approved yet.
There's also Yervoy (aka "Ipi"). Yervoy has had some durable responses but causes some nasty side effects in patients.
There are trials for a drug called Anti PD-1, which look really promising for Stage IV patients.
So there are other options for you besides a Phase I trial.
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- April 7, 2013 at 12:27 am
I'm sorry to hear that your melanoma has returned.
Are you being seen by a specialist at a melanoma clinic/center? I'm surprised that your doctor is suggesting you participate in a trial when there are other options available for Stage IV patients.
If your melanoma has a mutation called BRAF, you can take Zelboraf. In a nutshell, Zelboraf shrinks tumors quickly. Some folks have had long-lasting responses while others have not. When you pair Zelboraf with something called a MEK inhibitor folks do better. The only catch is that MEK inhibitors have not been FDA approved yet.
There's also Yervoy (aka "Ipi"). Yervoy has had some durable responses but causes some nasty side effects in patients.
There are trials for a drug called Anti PD-1, which look really promising for Stage IV patients.
So there are other options for you besides a Phase I trial.
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- April 7, 2013 at 12:27 am
I'm sorry to hear that your melanoma has returned.
Are you being seen by a specialist at a melanoma clinic/center? I'm surprised that your doctor is suggesting you participate in a trial when there are other options available for Stage IV patients.
If your melanoma has a mutation called BRAF, you can take Zelboraf. In a nutshell, Zelboraf shrinks tumors quickly. Some folks have had long-lasting responses while others have not. When you pair Zelboraf with something called a MEK inhibitor folks do better. The only catch is that MEK inhibitors have not been FDA approved yet.
There's also Yervoy (aka "Ipi"). Yervoy has had some durable responses but causes some nasty side effects in patients.
There are trials for a drug called Anti PD-1, which look really promising for Stage IV patients.
So there are other options for you besides a Phase I trial.
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- April 7, 2013 at 2:25 am
After 32 years it's come back? That's a lot to get hit with. So now you've got some learning to do about current treatments, but if you've gotten this far you're already coming up to speed quickly.
Like Linny says, the Anti-PD1 drugs are by all accounts very promising. There are more than one anti-PD1 drug however, and MK-3475 is one of them (from Merck). Hopefully some other folks on that trial (Robert et al) will chime in. According to my search on http://clinicaltrials.gov just now, there are two current trials, a phase I and a phase II study. Which one is your oncologist recommending? For the phase II study only, there are two arms, one gets MK-3475, one gets Dacarbazine. I think most if not all people would want to end up in the MK-3475 arm.
The other main anti-PD1 drugs in trial is from Bristol Myers Squibb, BMS-936558 (now named Nivolumab). It's a little further along, I think it's hit phase III with a trial with multiple arms (may or may not get anti-PD1). There are a bunch of other trials for this one too, alone and in combination, or requiring previous Yervoy — a whole mix of different combinations.
To help you sort through it all, over on the MIF (Melanoma International Foundation) web site, the moderator Catherine Poole is keeping track of which anti-PD1 trials are actually recruiting and have open slots, she has contacts with a lot of the trials and companies. You can see her post here, http://www.z2systems.com/mif/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=34105. This post is specifally about the Merck anti-PD1 trials but she is also keeping up with the BMS ones. You can email her and ask her any questions you have about anti-PD1 trials.
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- April 7, 2013 at 2:28 am
Sorry, bad link to the MIF post. This one should be right I hope:
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- April 7, 2013 at 2:28 am
Sorry, bad link to the MIF post. This one should be right I hope:
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- April 7, 2013 at 2:28 am
Sorry, bad link to the MIF post. This one should be right I hope:
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- April 7, 2013 at 2:25 am
After 32 years it's come back? That's a lot to get hit with. So now you've got some learning to do about current treatments, but if you've gotten this far you're already coming up to speed quickly.
Like Linny says, the Anti-PD1 drugs are by all accounts very promising. There are more than one anti-PD1 drug however, and MK-3475 is one of them (from Merck). Hopefully some other folks on that trial (Robert et al) will chime in. According to my search on http://clinicaltrials.gov just now, there are two current trials, a phase I and a phase II study. Which one is your oncologist recommending? For the phase II study only, there are two arms, one gets MK-3475, one gets Dacarbazine. I think most if not all people would want to end up in the MK-3475 arm.
The other main anti-PD1 drugs in trial is from Bristol Myers Squibb, BMS-936558 (now named Nivolumab). It's a little further along, I think it's hit phase III with a trial with multiple arms (may or may not get anti-PD1). There are a bunch of other trials for this one too, alone and in combination, or requiring previous Yervoy — a whole mix of different combinations.
To help you sort through it all, over on the MIF (Melanoma International Foundation) web site, the moderator Catherine Poole is keeping track of which anti-PD1 trials are actually recruiting and have open slots, she has contacts with a lot of the trials and companies. You can see her post here, http://www.z2systems.com/mif/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=34105. This post is specifally about the Merck anti-PD1 trials but she is also keeping up with the BMS ones. You can email her and ask her any questions you have about anti-PD1 trials.
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- April 7, 2013 at 2:25 am
After 32 years it's come back? That's a lot to get hit with. So now you've got some learning to do about current treatments, but if you've gotten this far you're already coming up to speed quickly.
Like Linny says, the Anti-PD1 drugs are by all accounts very promising. There are more than one anti-PD1 drug however, and MK-3475 is one of them (from Merck). Hopefully some other folks on that trial (Robert et al) will chime in. According to my search on http://clinicaltrials.gov just now, there are two current trials, a phase I and a phase II study. Which one is your oncologist recommending? For the phase II study only, there are two arms, one gets MK-3475, one gets Dacarbazine. I think most if not all people would want to end up in the MK-3475 arm.
The other main anti-PD1 drugs in trial is from Bristol Myers Squibb, BMS-936558 (now named Nivolumab). It's a little further along, I think it's hit phase III with a trial with multiple arms (may or may not get anti-PD1). There are a bunch of other trials for this one too, alone and in combination, or requiring previous Yervoy — a whole mix of different combinations.
To help you sort through it all, over on the MIF (Melanoma International Foundation) web site, the moderator Catherine Poole is keeping track of which anti-PD1 trials are actually recruiting and have open slots, she has contacts with a lot of the trials and companies. You can see her post here, http://www.z2systems.com/mif/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=34105. This post is specifally about the Merck anti-PD1 trials but she is also keeping up with the BMS ones. You can email her and ask her any questions you have about anti-PD1 trials.
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- April 7, 2013 at 11:27 am
Hello, so sorry to hear about it coming back after sooo long!!
As linny said there are two drugs fda approved. There is vemurafenib but you have to be test for the Braf mutation. Only positive mutations can take this drug. About 50% of people have it and if so the drug works very fast in shrinking tumors, but usually only last for about 6 months. The other is Yervoy (ipilimumab), This is an immunetherapy drug that takes the brakes off your immune system to fight the cancer itself. There is a common side effect of colitis though as well as some other side effects that can be serious, but responses tend to last for a long time. I believe there is a lady who is still cancer free after 11 years post Yervoy.
As for merk-3475 trial, also known as Anti-pd1, this is another Immune therapy drug, but it works a bit differently by binding with a ligand on the cancer tumor itself, but most results thus far show that if you dont have the pd1 ligand, the drug will not work. Merk-3475 a lot less side effects than Yervoy (which doesnt have a real target, so it can attack healthy cells as well).
My boyfriend Randy is on the Merk-3475 trial at UCLA, he has his fourth infusion on monday, so far pretty much no side effects other than a slight cough every once in a while, and some minor joint pain. All of his tumors under his skin we can feel, about 5 or 6 are all 'significantly' smaller according to the dr. last time we saw him. He had a tumor under his jaw very noticably protruding out from his jaw area, which is now almost not visible, and his jaw line looks normal. Also he has a tumor on his pectoral area that was the size of a softball, i believe it was like 15cm (not sure on the exact size) it is now a lottt smaller, and still shrinking. We have yet to have the scans yet, but im hoping ALL the tumors are responding. Time will tell.
I hope my info was helpful, sorry to write so much. If you have questions, i'd be glad to answer to the best of my ability.
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- April 7, 2013 at 11:27 am
Hello, so sorry to hear about it coming back after sooo long!!
As linny said there are two drugs fda approved. There is vemurafenib but you have to be test for the Braf mutation. Only positive mutations can take this drug. About 50% of people have it and if so the drug works very fast in shrinking tumors, but usually only last for about 6 months. The other is Yervoy (ipilimumab), This is an immunetherapy drug that takes the brakes off your immune system to fight the cancer itself. There is a common side effect of colitis though as well as some other side effects that can be serious, but responses tend to last for a long time. I believe there is a lady who is still cancer free after 11 years post Yervoy.
As for merk-3475 trial, also known as Anti-pd1, this is another Immune therapy drug, but it works a bit differently by binding with a ligand on the cancer tumor itself, but most results thus far show that if you dont have the pd1 ligand, the drug will not work. Merk-3475 a lot less side effects than Yervoy (which doesnt have a real target, so it can attack healthy cells as well).
My boyfriend Randy is on the Merk-3475 trial at UCLA, he has his fourth infusion on monday, so far pretty much no side effects other than a slight cough every once in a while, and some minor joint pain. All of his tumors under his skin we can feel, about 5 or 6 are all 'significantly' smaller according to the dr. last time we saw him. He had a tumor under his jaw very noticably protruding out from his jaw area, which is now almost not visible, and his jaw line looks normal. Also he has a tumor on his pectoral area that was the size of a softball, i believe it was like 15cm (not sure on the exact size) it is now a lottt smaller, and still shrinking. We have yet to have the scans yet, but im hoping ALL the tumors are responding. Time will tell.
I hope my info was helpful, sorry to write so much. If you have questions, i'd be glad to answer to the best of my ability.
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- April 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Amanda thank you for your reply, and everyone else too. I have never before participated in an online community and I'm really grateful for the prompt, thoughtful and informed responses to my posting. I wish your boyfriend Randy the best outcome — it sounds so promising! The fact that he has also had so few side effects from MK-3475 is really encouraging. I don't have the BRAF mutation, unfortunately. They tested for it when I had the initial tumor removed from my lung last July. After being examined by a host of specialists, there was no primary found, so they are assuming it is a recurrence from 1981. I've been told that I could go on ipilimumab if I fail the MK-3475 trial. Right now my new tumors are too small for a needle biopsy, so I have to wait for them to increase from 7mm to 1 cm before we can proceed. I am actually fortunate that this was discovered so early, and it only happened because I had lymphoma in 2003 and my wonderful oncologist has been doing annual PET/CT scans to monitor me for that. I am also lucky because the Angeles Clinic is participating in the MK-3475 triasl and the information I have is that it is going to be opening up a new arm shortly. So now I have to wait a couple of months.
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- April 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Amanda thank you for your reply, and everyone else too. I have never before participated in an online community and I'm really grateful for the prompt, thoughtful and informed responses to my posting. I wish your boyfriend Randy the best outcome — it sounds so promising! The fact that he has also had so few side effects from MK-3475 is really encouraging. I don't have the BRAF mutation, unfortunately. They tested for it when I had the initial tumor removed from my lung last July. After being examined by a host of specialists, there was no primary found, so they are assuming it is a recurrence from 1981. I've been told that I could go on ipilimumab if I fail the MK-3475 trial. Right now my new tumors are too small for a needle biopsy, so I have to wait for them to increase from 7mm to 1 cm before we can proceed. I am actually fortunate that this was discovered so early, and it only happened because I had lymphoma in 2003 and my wonderful oncologist has been doing annual PET/CT scans to monitor me for that. I am also lucky because the Angeles Clinic is participating in the MK-3475 triasl and the information I have is that it is going to be opening up a new arm shortly. So now I have to wait a couple of months.
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- April 7, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Hi Jaryllane,
I am so sorry to hear your news.
If you live in the Los Angeles area, Dr. Steven O'day, former Melanoma Director at The Angeles Clinic, is now practicing at Beverly Hills Canter Center. He is a renown specialist in Melanoma. Also one of the chief investigators with IPI trials.
If you are interested, He presently has BOTH BMS & Merck Pd1 trials plus Braf & IPI trials: See link
Here is his contact info. I am a patient of his and highly recommend him. He extremely caring & listens to you.
He does respond to his emails: [email protected]
The Beverly Hills Cancer Center
8900 Wilshire Blvd
BH,CA 90211
310-432-8900Good Luck and please keepus posted.
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Hi Jaryllane,
I am so sorry to hear your news.
If you live in the Los Angeles area, Dr. Steven O'day, former Melanoma Director at The Angeles Clinic, is now practicing at Beverly Hills Canter Center. He is a renown specialist in Melanoma. Also one of the chief investigators with IPI trials.
If you are interested, He presently has BOTH BMS & Merck Pd1 trials plus Braf & IPI trials: See link
Here is his contact info. I am a patient of his and highly recommend him. He extremely caring & listens to you.
He does respond to his emails: [email protected]
The Beverly Hills Cancer Center
8900 Wilshire Blvd
BH,CA 90211
310-432-8900Good Luck and please keepus posted.
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Hi Jaryllane,
I am so sorry to hear your news.
If you live in the Los Angeles area, Dr. Steven O'day, former Melanoma Director at The Angeles Clinic, is now practicing at Beverly Hills Canter Center. He is a renown specialist in Melanoma. Also one of the chief investigators with IPI trials.
If you are interested, He presently has BOTH BMS & Merck Pd1 trials plus Braf & IPI trials: See link
Here is his contact info. I am a patient of his and highly recommend him. He extremely caring & listens to you.
He does respond to his emails: [email protected]
The Beverly Hills Cancer Center
8900 Wilshire Blvd
BH,CA 90211
310-432-8900Good Luck and please keepus posted.
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Thank you Joanne. My oncologist is at the Angeles Clinic and is in close communication with the current Melanoma Director there and I have total confidence in him. I just need to get the timing right to join the MK-3475 trial. I may have to wait a couple of months and keep my fingers crossed that the new arms of the trial won't fill up before then. I'm new to the world of clinical trials, so I have a lot to learn! Have you been on any trials? If so, how did they work for you? I'm reading very encouraging things about MK-3475.
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Thank you Joanne. My oncologist is at the Angeles Clinic and is in close communication with the current Melanoma Director there and I have total confidence in him. I just need to get the timing right to join the MK-3475 trial. I may have to wait a couple of months and keep my fingers crossed that the new arms of the trial won't fill up before then. I'm new to the world of clinical trials, so I have a lot to learn! Have you been on any trials? If so, how did they work for you? I'm reading very encouraging things about MK-3475.
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Thank you Joanne. My oncologist is at the Angeles Clinic and is in close communication with the current Melanoma Director there and I have total confidence in him. I just need to get the timing right to join the MK-3475 trial. I may have to wait a couple of months and keep my fingers crossed that the new arms of the trial won't fill up before then. I'm new to the world of clinical trials, so I have a lot to learn! Have you been on any trials? If so, how did they work for you? I'm reading very encouraging things about MK-3475.
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- April 7, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Jaryllane,
I have not been on any trials so I could not give you any advice or insight. My only advice is keep your options open to go wherever you have to (even out of state) to get into a trial that you want.
Who is your oncologist at the Angeles Clinic??? I use to go to the Angeles Clinic when Dr. Oday was the Director there. Rumor has it that Dr. Oday had a falling out with the Angeles Clinic.
I was surprised to hear that your oncologist told you he is in communication with Dr. Oday. Did your oncologist actually make reference to Dr. Oday???
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Jaryllane,
I have not been on any trials so I could not give you any advice or insight. My only advice is keep your options open to go wherever you have to (even out of state) to get into a trial that you want.
Who is your oncologist at the Angeles Clinic??? I use to go to the Angeles Clinic when Dr. Oday was the Director there. Rumor has it that Dr. Oday had a falling out with the Angeles Clinic.
I was surprised to hear that your oncologist told you he is in communication with Dr. Oday. Did your oncologist actually make reference to Dr. Oday???
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Jaryllane,
I have not been on any trials so I could not give you any advice or insight. My only advice is keep your options open to go wherever you have to (even out of state) to get into a trial that you want.
Who is your oncologist at the Angeles Clinic??? I use to go to the Angeles Clinic when Dr. Oday was the Director there. Rumor has it that Dr. Oday had a falling out with the Angeles Clinic.
I was surprised to hear that your oncologist told you he is in communication with Dr. Oday. Did your oncologist actually make reference to Dr. Oday???
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Jaryl,
Please let us know how you appt. next Thursday goes with Dr. Piro. I have seen pictures of him and he is very handsome. He could be a "celebrity" actor with his looks. I have seen Dr. Piro on the "Doctor TV show How long have you had him as your oncologist?
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Jaryl,
Please let us know how you appt. next Thursday goes with Dr. Piro. I have seen pictures of him and he is very handsome. He could be a "celebrity" actor with his looks. I have seen Dr. Piro on the "Doctor TV show How long have you had him as your oncologist?
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Jaryl,
Please let us know how you appt. next Thursday goes with Dr. Piro. I have seen pictures of him and he is very handsome. He could be a "celebrity" actor with his looks. I have seen Dr. Piro on the "Doctor TV show How long have you had him as your oncologist?
joanne
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm
He's been my oncologist since about 2007. I had successful chemo for lymphoma at City of Hope in 2003-2004 and then moved back to Santa Monica a year or so later. Yes, Dr Piro is very good looking and has been on TV, which might make one sceptical of his expertise. However, he has helped me through a couple of difficult health decisions, always seems to be up-to-the-minute on the latest information and treatments. He is also a straight-talker, which I appreciate. I have a lot of confidence in him. And The Angeles Clinic is not far from my home!
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm
He's been my oncologist since about 2007. I had successful chemo for lymphoma at City of Hope in 2003-2004 and then moved back to Santa Monica a year or so later. Yes, Dr Piro is very good looking and has been on TV, which might make one sceptical of his expertise. However, he has helped me through a couple of difficult health decisions, always seems to be up-to-the-minute on the latest information and treatments. He is also a straight-talker, which I appreciate. I have a lot of confidence in him. And The Angeles Clinic is not far from my home!
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm
He's been my oncologist since about 2007. I had successful chemo for lymphoma at City of Hope in 2003-2004 and then moved back to Santa Monica a year or so later. Yes, Dr Piro is very good looking and has been on TV, which might make one sceptical of his expertise. However, he has helped me through a couple of difficult health decisions, always seems to be up-to-the-minute on the latest information and treatments. He is also a straight-talker, which I appreciate. I have a lot of confidence in him. And The Angeles Clinic is not far from my home!
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- April 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Hi Joanne:
Had a very encouraging meeting with Dr. Piro this morning and the staff for the MK-3475 trial. It looks like we can work out the timing to get me on the trial. Dr. Piro is very confident and optimistic about my future. I am feeling much relieved!
Jaryl
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- April 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Hi Joanne:
Had a very encouraging meeting with Dr. Piro this morning and the staff for the MK-3475 trial. It looks like we can work out the timing to get me on the trial. Dr. Piro is very confident and optimistic about my future. I am feeling much relieved!
Jaryl
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- April 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Hi Joanne:
Had a very encouraging meeting with Dr. Piro this morning and the staff for the MK-3475 trial. It looks like we can work out the timing to get me on the trial. Dr. Piro is very confident and optimistic about my future. I am feeling much relieved!
Jaryl
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- April 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Amanda thank you for your reply, and everyone else too. I have never before participated in an online community and I'm really grateful for the prompt, thoughtful and informed responses to my posting. I wish your boyfriend Randy the best outcome — it sounds so promising! The fact that he has also had so few side effects from MK-3475 is really encouraging. I don't have the BRAF mutation, unfortunately. They tested for it when I had the initial tumor removed from my lung last July. After being examined by a host of specialists, there was no primary found, so they are assuming it is a recurrence from 1981. I've been told that I could go on ipilimumab if I fail the MK-3475 trial. Right now my new tumors are too small for a needle biopsy, so I have to wait for them to increase from 7mm to 1 cm before we can proceed. I am actually fortunate that this was discovered so early, and it only happened because I had lymphoma in 2003 and my wonderful oncologist has been doing annual PET/CT scans to monitor me for that. I am also lucky because the Angeles Clinic is participating in the MK-3475 triasl and the information I have is that it is going to be opening up a new arm shortly. So now I have to wait a couple of months.
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- April 7, 2013 at 11:27 am
Hello, so sorry to hear about it coming back after sooo long!!
As linny said there are two drugs fda approved. There is vemurafenib but you have to be test for the Braf mutation. Only positive mutations can take this drug. About 50% of people have it and if so the drug works very fast in shrinking tumors, but usually only last for about 6 months. The other is Yervoy (ipilimumab), This is an immunetherapy drug that takes the brakes off your immune system to fight the cancer itself. There is a common side effect of colitis though as well as some other side effects that can be serious, but responses tend to last for a long time. I believe there is a lady who is still cancer free after 11 years post Yervoy.
As for merk-3475 trial, also known as Anti-pd1, this is another Immune therapy drug, but it works a bit differently by binding with a ligand on the cancer tumor itself, but most results thus far show that if you dont have the pd1 ligand, the drug will not work. Merk-3475 a lot less side effects than Yervoy (which doesnt have a real target, so it can attack healthy cells as well).
My boyfriend Randy is on the Merk-3475 trial at UCLA, he has his fourth infusion on monday, so far pretty much no side effects other than a slight cough every once in a while, and some minor joint pain. All of his tumors under his skin we can feel, about 5 or 6 are all 'significantly' smaller according to the dr. last time we saw him. He had a tumor under his jaw very noticably protruding out from his jaw area, which is now almost not visible, and his jaw line looks normal. Also he has a tumor on his pectoral area that was the size of a softball, i believe it was like 15cm (not sure on the exact size) it is now a lottt smaller, and still shrinking. We have yet to have the scans yet, but im hoping ALL the tumors are responding. Time will tell.
I hope my info was helpful, sorry to write so much. If you have questions, i'd be glad to answer to the best of my ability.
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- April 7, 2013 at 11:37 am
how can they tell if this is the same from 32 years ago as a recurrence, or if it's perhaps another primary or unknown new primary, etc..?
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- April 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Hi there,
So sorry to meet you here but, as you can see, a lot has changed in 32 years!
A few key items pop out at me from your post:
First and foremost: PLEASE get to a melanoma center of excellence.
If you recently had a tumor(s) removed, they should have been tested for the BRAF mutation. If not, I believe the frozen tissue can still be tested–any good Melanoma oncologist you see will request that done–they’ll request slides anyway.
I believe, and someone will correct me if I’m wrong, that Yervoy should be among your first choices here. With a low tumor burden, that would make sense to me. Most people on Yervoy do not develop colitis. I was given Yervoy for two courses, about a year apart and was a partial-responder each time. The first time I had side effects but no colitis. This past year, I did develop colitis. It is a new drug and must be managed by expert care, hence the need for you to be under the care if a melanoma expert onc. Several people in this board are complete responders to Yervoy and experienced minimal or at least manageable side-effects.
Please note, I am only on Zelbarof now because I was originally tested as BRAF false-negative. I am anxiously awaiting Anti-pd1 approval, but so far, the timing was always wrong as far as the “measurable disease” required by all the trials.
So, sorry this is so long, but if it were me, I’d get all my options, and if not excluded for any medical reason, consider Yervoy first.
All the best and please keep us posted,
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- April 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Hi there,
So sorry to meet you here but, as you can see, a lot has changed in 32 years!
A few key items pop out at me from your post:
First and foremost: PLEASE get to a melanoma center of excellence.
If you recently had a tumor(s) removed, they should have been tested for the BRAF mutation. If not, I believe the frozen tissue can still be tested–any good Melanoma oncologist you see will request that done–they’ll request slides anyway.
I believe, and someone will correct me if I’m wrong, that Yervoy should be among your first choices here. With a low tumor burden, that would make sense to me. Most people on Yervoy do not develop colitis. I was given Yervoy for two courses, about a year apart and was a partial-responder each time. The first time I had side effects but no colitis. This past year, I did develop colitis. It is a new drug and must be managed by expert care, hence the need for you to be under the care if a melanoma expert onc. Several people in this board are complete responders to Yervoy and experienced minimal or at least manageable side-effects.
Please note, I am only on Zelbarof now because I was originally tested as BRAF false-negative. I am anxiously awaiting Anti-pd1 approval, but so far, the timing was always wrong as far as the “measurable disease” required by all the trials.
So, sorry this is so long, but if it were me, I’d get all my options, and if not excluded for any medical reason, consider Yervoy first.
All the best and please keep us posted,
Karen -
- April 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Hi there,
So sorry to meet you here but, as you can see, a lot has changed in 32 years!
A few key items pop out at me from your post:
First and foremost: PLEASE get to a melanoma center of excellence.
If you recently had a tumor(s) removed, they should have been tested for the BRAF mutation. If not, I believe the frozen tissue can still be tested–any good Melanoma oncologist you see will request that done–they’ll request slides anyway.
I believe, and someone will correct me if I’m wrong, that Yervoy should be among your first choices here. With a low tumor burden, that would make sense to me. Most people on Yervoy do not develop colitis. I was given Yervoy for two courses, about a year apart and was a partial-responder each time. The first time I had side effects but no colitis. This past year, I did develop colitis. It is a new drug and must be managed by expert care, hence the need for you to be under the care if a melanoma expert onc. Several people in this board are complete responders to Yervoy and experienced minimal or at least manageable side-effects.
Please note, I am only on Zelbarof now because I was originally tested as BRAF false-negative. I am anxiously awaiting Anti-pd1 approval, but so far, the timing was always wrong as far as the “measurable disease” required by all the trials.
So, sorry this is so long, but if it were me, I’d get all my options, and if not excluded for any medical reason, consider Yervoy first.
All the best and please keep us posted,
Karen -
- April 7, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Karen I didn't know that you could get a false negative on the BRAF test. How did you find out that it was a false negative? Is there any more you can tell me about that? I am also a little concerned about the timing of getting on the anti-pd1 trial since my tumors right now are too small to biopsy. But I see my oncologist next Thursday and I'm sure we will discuss that issue in detail. The trial drug sounds like it has a better response rate and fewer side effects than Yervoy, but it's always good to know there is an alternative if I can't get on the trial.
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Karen I didn't know that you could get a false negative on the BRAF test. How did you find out that it was a false negative? Is there any more you can tell me about that? I am also a little concerned about the timing of getting on the anti-pd1 trial since my tumors right now are too small to biopsy. But I see my oncologist next Thursday and I'm sure we will discuss that issue in detail. The trial drug sounds like it has a better response rate and fewer side effects than Yervoy, but it's always good to know there is an alternative if I can't get on the trial.
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- April 7, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Time to update my own profile!
The tests used 2+ years ago picked up more false negatives than the newer one. The thought is that there was healthy tissue mixed in w/the Mel sample. . When I read on www melanomainternational.org that someone else had re-tested positive, I asked my onc to retest. This was at end of Dec & I’ve been on Zelbarof since then.
Does this new trial exclude prior Yervoy use? It’s something to ask. Some here have gone on to success with PD1 after unsuccessful, or partially successful Ipi. I’m suggesting looking into it for 2 reasons:
Melanoma can be very fast-growing and
In trials, sometimes a few months stretches into 6.
Also, many oncs and patients (or as we like to say, warriors) feel good about the 1-2 punch of both treatments.
Please keep us posted.
Karen -
- April 7, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Karen how are you doing on the Zelboraf, or is it too soon to tell? I will ask my oncologist if there could have been an error in the BRAF test last summer.
The literature I have thus far on the trial says that you can't have been in another trial in the previous 30 days, but it doesn't say anything about being on an approved drug. Thank you for bringing that up. I will definitely ask my oncologist on Thursday. But I don't think I can start on anything until my tumors are large enough for a needle biopsy to confirm.
Jaryl
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Karen how are you doing on the Zelboraf, or is it too soon to tell? I will ask my oncologist if there could have been an error in the BRAF test last summer.
The literature I have thus far on the trial says that you can't have been in another trial in the previous 30 days, but it doesn't say anything about being on an approved drug. Thank you for bringing that up. I will definitely ask my oncologist on Thursday. But I don't think I can start on anything until my tumors are large enough for a needle biopsy to confirm.
Jaryl
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- April 7, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Karen how are you doing on the Zelboraf, or is it too soon to tell? I will ask my oncologist if there could have been an error in the BRAF test last summer.
The literature I have thus far on the trial says that you can't have been in another trial in the previous 30 days, but it doesn't say anything about being on an approved drug. Thank you for bringing that up. I will definitely ask my oncologist on Thursday. But I don't think I can start on anything until my tumors are large enough for a needle biopsy to confirm.
Jaryl
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- April 7, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Time to update my own profile!
The tests used 2+ years ago picked up more false negatives than the newer one. The thought is that there was healthy tissue mixed in w/the Mel sample. . When I read on www melanomainternational.org that someone else had re-tested positive, I asked my onc to retest. This was at end of Dec & I’ve been on Zelbarof since then.
Does this new trial exclude prior Yervoy use? It’s something to ask. Some here have gone on to success with PD1 after unsuccessful, or partially successful Ipi. I’m suggesting looking into it for 2 reasons:
Melanoma can be very fast-growing and
In trials, sometimes a few months stretches into 6.
Also, many oncs and patients (or as we like to say, warriors) feel good about the 1-2 punch of both treatments.
Please keep us posted.
Karen -
- April 7, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Time to update my own profile!
The tests used 2+ years ago picked up more false negatives than the newer one. The thought is that there was healthy tissue mixed in w/the Mel sample. . When I read on www melanomainternational.org that someone else had re-tested positive, I asked my onc to retest. This was at end of Dec & I’ve been on Zelbarof since then.
Does this new trial exclude prior Yervoy use? It’s something to ask. Some here have gone on to success with PD1 after unsuccessful, or partially successful Ipi. I’m suggesting looking into it for 2 reasons:
Melanoma can be very fast-growing and
In trials, sometimes a few months stretches into 6.
Also, many oncs and patients (or as we like to say, warriors) feel good about the 1-2 punch of both treatments.
Please keep us posted.
Karen -
- April 7, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Karen I didn't know that you could get a false negative on the BRAF test. How did you find out that it was a false negative? Is there any more you can tell me about that? I am also a little concerned about the timing of getting on the anti-pd1 trial since my tumors right now are too small to biopsy. But I see my oncologist next Thursday and I'm sure we will discuss that issue in detail. The trial drug sounds like it has a better response rate and fewer side effects than Yervoy, but it's always good to know there is an alternative if I can't get on the trial.
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm
I had a small tumor removed from my lung last summer and multiple exams by specialists found no primary, so they assume it is recurrence from a "rogue cell" from 1981. I will have to have a needle biopsy of the new tumors when they get large enough.
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm
I had a small tumor removed from my lung last summer and multiple exams by specialists found no primary, so they assume it is recurrence from a "rogue cell" from 1981. I will have to have a needle biopsy of the new tumors when they get large enough.
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- April 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm
I had a small tumor removed from my lung last summer and multiple exams by specialists found no primary, so they assume it is recurrence from a "rogue cell" from 1981. I will have to have a needle biopsy of the new tumors when they get large enough.
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- April 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm
I assumed, because you live in LA (where there are a number of melanoma specialists), and you're being offered an anti-PD1 trial, that you're probably being seen at a melanoma center or by a melanoma specialist. As others are pointing out, seeing a melanoma specialist the step #1. My first oncologist was not a melanoma specialist and it took me 4 months to find my way to one. At that point I realized how important that step was.
To help us put your questions in context, you could fill out your profile here on MPIP. Especially the section where you can name your treatment center and/or oncologist. To do that, click on 'UPDATE INFO' button at the top right of the page, then click on the 'Profile' tab, then click the 'Edit' tab. A lot of us will look at the profile to see where somebody is being treated.
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- April 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm
I assumed, because you live in LA (where there are a number of melanoma specialists), and you're being offered an anti-PD1 trial, that you're probably being seen at a melanoma center or by a melanoma specialist. As others are pointing out, seeing a melanoma specialist the step #1. My first oncologist was not a melanoma specialist and it took me 4 months to find my way to one. At that point I realized how important that step was.
To help us put your questions in context, you could fill out your profile here on MPIP. Especially the section where you can name your treatment center and/or oncologist. To do that, click on 'UPDATE INFO' button at the top right of the page, then click on the 'Profile' tab, then click the 'Edit' tab. A lot of us will look at the profile to see where somebody is being treated.
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- April 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm
I assumed, because you live in LA (where there are a number of melanoma specialists), and you're being offered an anti-PD1 trial, that you're probably being seen at a melanoma center or by a melanoma specialist. As others are pointing out, seeing a melanoma specialist the step #1. My first oncologist was not a melanoma specialist and it took me 4 months to find my way to one. At that point I realized how important that step was.
To help us put your questions in context, you could fill out your profile here on MPIP. Especially the section where you can name your treatment center and/or oncologist. To do that, click on 'UPDATE INFO' button at the top right of the page, then click on the 'Profile' tab, then click the 'Edit' tab. A lot of us will look at the profile to see where somebody is being treated.
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- April 8, 2013 at 7:42 pm
If you are healthy otherwise, and have a low tumor burden only in your lungs (small mets), look at the hard numbers. Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone mention IL-2. If it works and you are a complete responder, you have a great chance at a prolonged remission (decades).
Yes it is tough, but doable. Unfortunately Diane had a freakish stroke after her first round. It has become safer though and the recovery time is very quick. It may even have a boosting effect on your immune system later on when using other immunotherapies.
With all of the new meds, for the most part you are porlonging the inevitable. Once it has become resistant (usually in 4-6 months) you have selected for aggressive disease.
Until they get the combination / timing (off-on cycles) for these newer drugs, personally I would save them as my ace in the hole to buy time. For most, that is all they do. Once it fails you have nothing left and by then your tumor burden and degree of illness may take IL-2 off the table.
To date, IL-2 is the only drug that has a proven track record – albeit a small percentage. A long-term follow-up of partial and complete responders to IL-2 showed if you were a complete responder and didn't have a recurrence within 30 months after treatment – NONE have had a recurance so far. Patients have gone on over 20 years without a recurrence. No one will ever use the "C" word but the summary stated that these patients can essentially be "cured" of their melanoma. That says a lot.
It is nice to have choices, and again I am sorry to hear about your news. I am sure it was a shocker. My recurrence from stage IIA to IV 8 years later was.
Just mentioning IL-2 as another option to at least look at with your doctors. I don't recommend it lightly, but still recommend it if you are healthy and have a relatively low tumor burden.
Best of luck.
Kim – NED stage IV since July 2010 – thanks to IL-2.
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- April 8, 2013 at 7:42 pm
If you are healthy otherwise, and have a low tumor burden only in your lungs (small mets), look at the hard numbers. Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone mention IL-2. If it works and you are a complete responder, you have a great chance at a prolonged remission (decades).
Yes it is tough, but doable. Unfortunately Diane had a freakish stroke after her first round. It has become safer though and the recovery time is very quick. It may even have a boosting effect on your immune system later on when using other immunotherapies.
With all of the new meds, for the most part you are porlonging the inevitable. Once it has become resistant (usually in 4-6 months) you have selected for aggressive disease.
Until they get the combination / timing (off-on cycles) for these newer drugs, personally I would save them as my ace in the hole to buy time. For most, that is all they do. Once it fails you have nothing left and by then your tumor burden and degree of illness may take IL-2 off the table.
To date, IL-2 is the only drug that has a proven track record – albeit a small percentage. A long-term follow-up of partial and complete responders to IL-2 showed if you were a complete responder and didn't have a recurrence within 30 months after treatment – NONE have had a recurance so far. Patients have gone on over 20 years without a recurrence. No one will ever use the "C" word but the summary stated that these patients can essentially be "cured" of their melanoma. That says a lot.
It is nice to have choices, and again I am sorry to hear about your news. I am sure it was a shocker. My recurrence from stage IIA to IV 8 years later was.
Just mentioning IL-2 as another option to at least look at with your doctors. I don't recommend it lightly, but still recommend it if you are healthy and have a relatively low tumor burden.
Best of luck.
Kim – NED stage IV since July 2010 – thanks to IL-2.
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- April 8, 2013 at 7:42 pm
If you are healthy otherwise, and have a low tumor burden only in your lungs (small mets), look at the hard numbers. Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone mention IL-2. If it works and you are a complete responder, you have a great chance at a prolonged remission (decades).
Yes it is tough, but doable. Unfortunately Diane had a freakish stroke after her first round. It has become safer though and the recovery time is very quick. It may even have a boosting effect on your immune system later on when using other immunotherapies.
With all of the new meds, for the most part you are porlonging the inevitable. Once it has become resistant (usually in 4-6 months) you have selected for aggressive disease.
Until they get the combination / timing (off-on cycles) for these newer drugs, personally I would save them as my ace in the hole to buy time. For most, that is all they do. Once it fails you have nothing left and by then your tumor burden and degree of illness may take IL-2 off the table.
To date, IL-2 is the only drug that has a proven track record – albeit a small percentage. A long-term follow-up of partial and complete responders to IL-2 showed if you were a complete responder and didn't have a recurrence within 30 months after treatment – NONE have had a recurance so far. Patients have gone on over 20 years without a recurrence. No one will ever use the "C" word but the summary stated that these patients can essentially be "cured" of their melanoma. That says a lot.
It is nice to have choices, and again I am sorry to hear about your news. I am sure it was a shocker. My recurrence from stage IIA to IV 8 years later was.
Just mentioning IL-2 as another option to at least look at with your doctors. I don't recommend it lightly, but still recommend it if you are healthy and have a relatively low tumor burden.
Best of luck.
Kim – NED stage IV since July 2010 – thanks to IL-2.
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