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Help with Path Report

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    LizzM
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      Hi, my friend's mom was recently diagnosed with melanoma. She has an appointment with a surgeon on Tuesday. Could anyone help us to understand the path report. The lady is 74 years old and in otherwise good health. It looks to me like it is a fairly thin melanoma but the Clark's level is high so I don't know?? Unfortunately, she had a shave biopsy and I know that's not good. Any help would be appreciated.

      Femaile

      74 year old

      BUTTOCK, RIGHT:
      MALIGNANT MELANOMA, BRESLOW DEPTH 1.1 MM (172.5)

      Hi, my friend's mom was recently diagnosed with melanoma. She has an appointment with a surgeon on Tuesday. Could anyone help us to understand the path report. The lady is 74 years old and in otherwise good health. It looks to me like it is a fairly thin melanoma but the Clark's level is high so I don't know?? Unfortunately, she had a shave biopsy and I know that's not good. Any help would be appreciated.

      Femaile

      74 year old

      BUTTOCK, RIGHT:
      MALIGNANT MELANOMA, BRESLOW DEPTH 1.1 MM (172.5)

      NOTE:
      Clark Level: IV
      Ulceration: Absent
      Regression: Absent
      Dermal Mitoses: 3 per square mm

      The melanoma extends to one peripheral margin and closely approximates the base of the biopsy specimen. A re-excision is warranted. Multiple level sections have been examined.

      CLINICAL DIAGNISIS AND HISTORY:
      Nevus, R/O Atypia, (partial).

      GROSS DESCRIPTION:
      Submitted is an irregular, pigmented specimen measuring 1.5 cm; cut into multiple strips. ml-pm/dk

      MICROSCPIC DESCRIPTION:
      In this trisected shave specimen, there is a broad and assymmectrical melanocytic proliferation. The epidermis is hyperplastic, and solitary and haphazardly nested melanocytes are present along the dermo-epidermal junction and scattered above the junction across the entire breadth of the lesion.  In the dermis, melanocytes are present in sheets and randomly distributed nests failing to display maturation. The melanocytes display enlarged vesicular nuclei with prominent nucleoli  and abundant amounts of lightly pigmented and finely granular cytoplasm. They extend into the deep reticular dermis as small nests and scattered solitary cells, to a depth of 1.1 mm. Three dermal mitoses per square mm are indentified. A Melan-A stain highlights the asymmetry, pagetoid spread, and extension into the reticular dermis.

       

       

       

       

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        LizzM
        Participant

          Forgot to add – she had a PET scan and her right knee and right side of her neck lit up. She has had knee surgery in the past. I am thinking the right side of her neck is probably not related to the melanoma because it was on her buttock and it seems it would show up in the groin and not the neck. Is that correct?

          LizzM
          Participant

            Forgot to add – she had a PET scan and her right knee and right side of her neck lit up. She has had knee surgery in the past. I am thinking the right side of her neck is probably not related to the melanoma because it was on her buttock and it seems it would show up in the groin and not the neck. Is that correct?

            LizzM
            Participant

              Forgot to add – she had a PET scan and her right knee and right side of her neck lit up. She has had knee surgery in the past. I am thinking the right side of her neck is probably not related to the melanoma because it was on her buttock and it seems it would show up in the groin and not the neck. Is that correct?

                LizzM
                Participant

                  Thanks, I read that. I was just looking for info from people "in the know." 🙂

                  JC
                  Participant

                    At that Breslow, they probably will do sentinel lymph node biopsy 

                    JC
                    Participant

                      At that Breslow, they probably will do sentinel lymph node biopsy 

                      JC
                      Participant

                        At that Breslow, they probably will do sentinel lymph node biopsy 

                        LizzM
                        Participant

                          Thanks, I read that. I was just looking for info from people "in the know." 🙂

                          LizzM
                          Participant

                            Thanks, I read that. I was just looking for info from people "in the know." 🙂

                          awillett1991
                          Participant
                            There is no assuming anything concerning where melanoma will or can go. If the doc is telling you it can’t be in th neck because of where they found it in the backside, find another doc. Find a melanoma oncologist.
                            awillett1991
                            Participant
                              There is no assuming anything concerning where melanoma will or can go. If the doc is telling you it can’t be in th neck because of where they found it in the backside, find another doc. Find a melanoma oncologist.
                              awillett1991
                              Participant
                                There is no assuming anything concerning where melanoma will or can go. If the doc is telling you it can’t be in th neck because of where they found it in the backside, find another doc. Find a melanoma oncologist.
                                  LizzM
                                  Participant

                                    She has an appointment with a specialist next week. I was thinking it would probably show up in the groin before it showed up in the neck. No one told her that. I know melanoma is a sneaky diesease and does what it wants to do, I was just thinking it might be unlikely to be in the neck. But I guess it can go anywhere.

                                    LizzM
                                    Participant

                                      She has an appointment with a specialist next week. I was thinking it would probably show up in the groin before it showed up in the neck. No one told her that. I know melanoma is a sneaky diesease and does what it wants to do, I was just thinking it might be unlikely to be in the neck. But I guess it can go anywhere.

                                      LizzM
                                      Participant

                                        She has an appointment with a specialist next week. I was thinking it would probably show up in the groin before it showed up in the neck. No one told her that. I know melanoma is a sneaky diesease and does what it wants to do, I was just thinking it might be unlikely to be in the neck. But I guess it can go anywhere.

                                      Janner
                                      Participant

                                        Basically a stage I lesion at this point.  (Pretty unusual to have a PET scan for this).  In general, lesions over 1mm do a sentinel lymph node biopsy.  This is where they test the first lymph node in the drainage basin to look for spread.  If that were positive, then that is typically when scans might be done.  If the SNB were positive, then you can discuss options like removing lymph nodes or other adjuvant treatment – or just monitoring.

                                        As for the PET scan result, you are correct.  PETs light up for inflammation, trauma and cancer among other things.  Previous surgical sites often light up so the knee is unlikely to be of concern.  The neck also would not be the first location to look for spread – either abdominal nodes or groin nodes are much more likely.  In addition, neck lymph nodes swell for infection much more often than anywhere else.  Never say never, and you didn't state the SUV on each site which indicates how "hot" that site is (higher numbers tend to be more suspect)… but I'd think that they are not worrying about Stage IV at this point.  The next step is to find out if the melanoma has spread to the local lymph basin.

                                        Good luck to your Mom.  My Dad was 81 when diagnosed with stage II melanoma and my Mom was 84 when diagnosed with stage 0.  Hopefully this is something that can just be removed with surgery!

                                        Janner

                                        Janner
                                        Participant

                                          Basically a stage I lesion at this point.  (Pretty unusual to have a PET scan for this).  In general, lesions over 1mm do a sentinel lymph node biopsy.  This is where they test the first lymph node in the drainage basin to look for spread.  If that were positive, then that is typically when scans might be done.  If the SNB were positive, then you can discuss options like removing lymph nodes or other adjuvant treatment – or just monitoring.

                                          As for the PET scan result, you are correct.  PETs light up for inflammation, trauma and cancer among other things.  Previous surgical sites often light up so the knee is unlikely to be of concern.  The neck also would not be the first location to look for spread – either abdominal nodes or groin nodes are much more likely.  In addition, neck lymph nodes swell for infection much more often than anywhere else.  Never say never, and you didn't state the SUV on each site which indicates how "hot" that site is (higher numbers tend to be more suspect)… but I'd think that they are not worrying about Stage IV at this point.  The next step is to find out if the melanoma has spread to the local lymph basin.

                                          Good luck to your Mom.  My Dad was 81 when diagnosed with stage II melanoma and my Mom was 84 when diagnosed with stage 0.  Hopefully this is something that can just be removed with surgery!

                                          Janner

                                            LizzM
                                            Participant

                                              Thank you, Janner. Here are the SUV levels. I have no idea if these are high or not.

                                              Cervical lymph SUV 4.3 –  multiple 1 cm nodes and several smaller 0.5 cm nodes
                                               
                                              Right knee max SUV 3.3 – 1 cm node
                                               
                                              Thanks for your help!
                                              LizzM
                                              Participant

                                                Thank you, Janner. Here are the SUV levels. I have no idea if these are high or not.

                                                Cervical lymph SUV 4.3 –  multiple 1 cm nodes and several smaller 0.5 cm nodes
                                                 
                                                Right knee max SUV 3.3 – 1 cm node
                                                 
                                                Thanks for your help!
                                                Janner
                                                Participant

                                                  Hard to know for sure with the cervical lymph nodes – I'm no expert at evaluating but I'd say those levels are intermediate.  It could be something as simple as an infection, though.  Best left to the experts who can examine her.  BTW, I forgot to post something about the shave biopsy.  Since it appears the deep margins was clear (although close), the shave biopsy is not really an issue.  Shaves are only a problem when they cut through a lesion so the true depth can't be determined.

                                                  Janner
                                                  Participant

                                                    Hard to know for sure with the cervical lymph nodes – I'm no expert at evaluating but I'd say those levels are intermediate.  It could be something as simple as an infection, though.  Best left to the experts who can examine her.  BTW, I forgot to post something about the shave biopsy.  Since it appears the deep margins was clear (although close), the shave biopsy is not really an issue.  Shaves are only a problem when they cut through a lesion so the true depth can't be determined.

                                                    Janner
                                                    Participant

                                                      Hard to know for sure with the cervical lymph nodes – I'm no expert at evaluating but I'd say those levels are intermediate.  It could be something as simple as an infection, though.  Best left to the experts who can examine her.  BTW, I forgot to post something about the shave biopsy.  Since it appears the deep margins was clear (although close), the shave biopsy is not really an issue.  Shaves are only a problem when they cut through a lesion so the true depth can't be determined.

                                                      LizzM
                                                      Participant

                                                        Thank you, Janner. Here are the SUV levels. I have no idea if these are high or not.

                                                        Cervical lymph SUV 4.3 –  multiple 1 cm nodes and several smaller 0.5 cm nodes
                                                         
                                                        Right knee max SUV 3.3 – 1 cm node
                                                         
                                                        Thanks for your help!
                                                      Janner
                                                      Participant

                                                        Basically a stage I lesion at this point.  (Pretty unusual to have a PET scan for this).  In general, lesions over 1mm do a sentinel lymph node biopsy.  This is where they test the first lymph node in the drainage basin to look for spread.  If that were positive, then that is typically when scans might be done.  If the SNB were positive, then you can discuss options like removing lymph nodes or other adjuvant treatment – or just monitoring.

                                                        As for the PET scan result, you are correct.  PETs light up for inflammation, trauma and cancer among other things.  Previous surgical sites often light up so the knee is unlikely to be of concern.  The neck also would not be the first location to look for spread – either abdominal nodes or groin nodes are much more likely.  In addition, neck lymph nodes swell for infection much more often than anywhere else.  Never say never, and you didn't state the SUV on each site which indicates how "hot" that site is (higher numbers tend to be more suspect)… but I'd think that they are not worrying about Stage IV at this point.  The next step is to find out if the melanoma has spread to the local lymph basin.

                                                        Good luck to your Mom.  My Dad was 81 when diagnosed with stage II melanoma and my Mom was 84 when diagnosed with stage 0.  Hopefully this is something that can just be removed with surgery!

                                                        Janner

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