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Can anyone share their stories on immunotherapy? Good, Bad, ugly……

Forums General Melanoma Community Can anyone share their stories on immunotherapy? Good, Bad, ugly……

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    Rita and Charles
    Participant

      Everyone is so helpful, and there are so many postings that I could search for personal stories using immunotherapy.  My husband Charles doesn't really use this forum [ I love you all, and you have helped me so much] , I am hoping that I can gather one string of posts that share success, side effects, challenges etc as we decide to go onto immunotherapy or "take a break".  His veins are bad, so most likely would need a port………..any insight that I can sit him in front of one post to read all of your stories……………thank you in advance, I trust you all and am humbled by your courage.  Good, bad, ugly…………what has your personal experience been or are you in the midst of immunotherapy.  Especially side effects!

      Rita

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        Bubbles
        Participant

          Zillions of these stories have already been posted. (It's pretty easy to search the site for more info if you'd like.) Some folks have a very difficult time with side effects. Some have little to no problems. Some have moderate problems. Some go on disability….some continue to work. Some respond rapidly…some have to struggle through and wait….trying to find out if their response will still be attained…just a bit later. "Be patient with the patient."….had become a message from researchers in melanoma to other oncs regarding immunotherapy. Ipi is the bad boy in regard to side effects. Both anti-PD1 products have a very similar response rates and side effect profiles…better and less difficult generally…respectively, than ipi. The combo produces still better responses, but also with greater risk of side effects. I would say most (from reading a great deal of reports and personal observation in the infusion clinic of a 2 1/2 year of a nivo/opdivo trial) do not need ports. However, for others, if needed, a port can be a real help in the process.  Response rates are roughly 40% for both anti-PD1 products, about 15% for ipi, the ipi/nivo combo produces about a 53% response rate.

          Here is a post I have put up before that I put together some time ago…but it is still pretty good regarding how immunotherapy works and the most common side effects:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/10/side-effects-of-nivolumab.html

          Sadly, as more folks take immunotherapy…the more odd and unfortunate side effects some have suffered. I just posted a 4th installment of that that on my blog. Luckily, those more difficult side effects are pretty rare and too…as more of us take these drugs…the docs are learning more about how to handle them….with rapid response being the most beneficial.

          I wish you well in whatever you and your husband decide.  Celeste

          Bubbles
          Participant

            Zillions of these stories have already been posted. (It's pretty easy to search the site for more info if you'd like.) Some folks have a very difficult time with side effects. Some have little to no problems. Some have moderate problems. Some go on disability….some continue to work. Some respond rapidly…some have to struggle through and wait….trying to find out if their response will still be attained…just a bit later. "Be patient with the patient."….had become a message from researchers in melanoma to other oncs regarding immunotherapy. Ipi is the bad boy in regard to side effects. Both anti-PD1 products have a very similar response rates and side effect profiles…better and less difficult generally…respectively, than ipi. The combo produces still better responses, but also with greater risk of side effects. I would say most (from reading a great deal of reports and personal observation in the infusion clinic of a 2 1/2 year of a nivo/opdivo trial) do not need ports. However, for others, if needed, a port can be a real help in the process.  Response rates are roughly 40% for both anti-PD1 products, about 15% for ipi, the ipi/nivo combo produces about a 53% response rate.

            Here is a post I have put up before that I put together some time ago…but it is still pretty good regarding how immunotherapy works and the most common side effects:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/10/side-effects-of-nivolumab.html

            Sadly, as more folks take immunotherapy…the more odd and unfortunate side effects some have suffered. I just posted a 4th installment of that that on my blog. Luckily, those more difficult side effects are pretty rare and too…as more of us take these drugs…the docs are learning more about how to handle them….with rapid response being the most beneficial.

            I wish you well in whatever you and your husband decide.  Celeste

              Rita and Charles
              Participant

                Thank you Celeste, you are a champion!  I don't reply often, but I "listen" very closely. xo

                Rita and Charles
                Participant

                  Thank you Celeste, you are a champion!  I don't reply often, but I "listen" very closely. xo

                  Rita and Charles
                  Participant

                    Thank you Celeste, you are a champion!  I don't reply often, but I "listen" very closely. xo

                  Bubbles
                  Participant

                    Zillions of these stories have already been posted. (It's pretty easy to search the site for more info if you'd like.) Some folks have a very difficult time with side effects. Some have little to no problems. Some have moderate problems. Some go on disability….some continue to work. Some respond rapidly…some have to struggle through and wait….trying to find out if their response will still be attained…just a bit later. "Be patient with the patient."….had become a message from researchers in melanoma to other oncs regarding immunotherapy. Ipi is the bad boy in regard to side effects. Both anti-PD1 products have a very similar response rates and side effect profiles…better and less difficult generally…respectively, than ipi. The combo produces still better responses, but also with greater risk of side effects. I would say most (from reading a great deal of reports and personal observation in the infusion clinic of a 2 1/2 year of a nivo/opdivo trial) do not need ports. However, for others, if needed, a port can be a real help in the process.  Response rates are roughly 40% for both anti-PD1 products, about 15% for ipi, the ipi/nivo combo produces about a 53% response rate.

                    Here is a post I have put up before that I put together some time ago…but it is still pretty good regarding how immunotherapy works and the most common side effects:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2013/10/side-effects-of-nivolumab.html

                    Sadly, as more folks take immunotherapy…the more odd and unfortunate side effects some have suffered. I just posted a 4th installment of that that on my blog. Luckily, those more difficult side effects are pretty rare and too…as more of us take these drugs…the docs are learning more about how to handle them….with rapid response being the most beneficial.

                    I wish you well in whatever you and your husband decide.  Celeste

                    Johnjk04
                    Participant

                      Hello Rita and Charles,

                      Melanoma in brain, lungs, liver, gall bladder and adrenal gland. Ippi/nivo combo started Jan. 2012.

                      3 Cyber Knifes to brain, 2 cranitoriums taking out 28 pcs. of brain.

                      Itched constantly from treatment for 2 years.

                      Cancer free since Aug. 2012. Lost pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. I have to take 2 pills each day.

                      Still suffer from loss of stamina but I'm cancer free.

                      Best wishes for both of you.

                      Johnjk04
                      Participant

                        Hello Rita and Charles,

                        Melanoma in brain, lungs, liver, gall bladder and adrenal gland. Ippi/nivo combo started Jan. 2012.

                        3 Cyber Knifes to brain, 2 cranitoriums taking out 28 pcs. of brain.

                        Itched constantly from treatment for 2 years.

                        Cancer free since Aug. 2012. Lost pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. I have to take 2 pills each day.

                        Still suffer from loss of stamina but I'm cancer free.

                        Best wishes for both of you.

                        Johnjk04
                        Participant

                          Hello Rita and Charles,

                          Melanoma in brain, lungs, liver, gall bladder and adrenal gland. Ippi/nivo combo started Jan. 2012.

                          3 Cyber Knifes to brain, 2 cranitoriums taking out 28 pcs. of brain.

                          Itched constantly from treatment for 2 years.

                          Cancer free since Aug. 2012. Lost pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. I have to take 2 pills each day.

                          Still suffer from loss of stamina but I'm cancer free.

                          Best wishes for both of you.

                          Johnjk04
                          Participant

                            Hello Rita and Charles,

                            Melanoma in brain, lungs, liver, gall bladder and adrenal gland. Ippi/nivo combo started Jan. 2012.

                            3 Cyber Knifes to brain, 2 cranitoriums taking out 28 pcs. of brain.

                            Itched constantly from treatment for 2 years.

                            Cancer free since Aug. 2012. Lost pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. I have to take 2 pills each day.

                            Still suffer from loss of stamina but I'm cancer free.

                            Best wishes for both of you.

                            Johnjk04
                            Participant

                              Hello Rita and Charles,

                              Melanoma in brain, lungs, liver, gall bladder and adrenal gland. Ippi/nivo combo started Jan. 2012.

                              3 Cyber Knifes to brain, 2 cranitoriums taking out 28 pcs. of brain.

                              Itched constantly from treatment for 2 years.

                              Cancer free since Aug. 2012. Lost pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. I have to take 2 pills each day.

                              Still suffer from loss of stamina but I'm cancer free.

                              Best wishes for both of you.

                              Johnjk04
                              Participant

                                Hello Rita and Charles,

                                Melanoma in brain, lungs, liver, gall bladder and adrenal gland. Ippi/nivo combo started Jan. 2012.

                                3 Cyber Knifes to brain, 2 cranitoriums taking out 28 pcs. of brain.

                                Itched constantly from treatment for 2 years.

                                Cancer free since Aug. 2012. Lost pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. I have to take 2 pills each day.

                                Still suffer from loss of stamina but I'm cancer free.

                                Best wishes for both of you.

                                Polymath
                                Participant

                                  Hi Rita,

                                  As always, Celeste has provided a comprehensive overview, and just about every topic imaginable has been discussed here.  Including the issue of port or no port.  I would just add that the overwhelming feedback is yes to a port, if you anticipate regular blood tests and infusions in your future.  The installation procedure is simple and straightforward, with little or no side-effects or discomfort.  Once I understood the process, and had questions answered it was a no-brainer for me.  I remain so happy I did it.  I was so tired of being "stuck", often by newbie technicians doing blood draws who would "miss" repeatedly.  And now, when I go for treatment and tell the nurse I have a port, you can see them smile as you have made the entire process so much easier and more effective.  The only downside I can think of is that if you ever stop treatments, the port needs to be "serviced" every 3 weeks or so.  If you become sure someday, you no longer want, or need it, it can be removed as simply as it was installed.

                                  Gary

                                  Polymath
                                  Participant

                                    Hi Rita,

                                    As always, Celeste has provided a comprehensive overview, and just about every topic imaginable has been discussed here.  Including the issue of port or no port.  I would just add that the overwhelming feedback is yes to a port, if you anticipate regular blood tests and infusions in your future.  The installation procedure is simple and straightforward, with little or no side-effects or discomfort.  Once I understood the process, and had questions answered it was a no-brainer for me.  I remain so happy I did it.  I was so tired of being "stuck", often by newbie technicians doing blood draws who would "miss" repeatedly.  And now, when I go for treatment and tell the nurse I have a port, you can see them smile as you have made the entire process so much easier and more effective.  The only downside I can think of is that if you ever stop treatments, the port needs to be "serviced" every 3 weeks or so.  If you become sure someday, you no longer want, or need it, it can be removed as simply as it was installed.

                                    Gary

                                    Polymath
                                    Participant

                                      Hi Rita,

                                      As always, Celeste has provided a comprehensive overview, and just about every topic imaginable has been discussed here.  Including the issue of port or no port.  I would just add that the overwhelming feedback is yes to a port, if you anticipate regular blood tests and infusions in your future.  The installation procedure is simple and straightforward, with little or no side-effects or discomfort.  Once I understood the process, and had questions answered it was a no-brainer for me.  I remain so happy I did it.  I was so tired of being "stuck", often by newbie technicians doing blood draws who would "miss" repeatedly.  And now, when I go for treatment and tell the nurse I have a port, you can see them smile as you have made the entire process so much easier and more effective.  The only downside I can think of is that if you ever stop treatments, the port needs to be "serviced" every 3 weeks or so.  If you become sure someday, you no longer want, or need it, it can be removed as simply as it was installed.

                                      Gary

                                      MoiraM
                                      Participant

                                        I am in the UK. I had Ipi (3 mg/kg) as an outpatient. Two hours + variable waiting time in a day-treatment clinic four times, three weeks apart. Just a simple infusion. One blood test in between each treatment when I went to the cliinic to see my oncologist.

                                        I got rash and diarrhoea (contolled with hydrocortisone cream and Imodium). Then, after the fourth and last treatment, my antierior pituitary was affected and I am like John, no anterior pituitary function and thereforre no thyroid or adrenal gland function. Like John. I take two pills each morning and I cannot do as much as I used to.

                                        I also has a reoccurence of the rash (lasted a month) and the diarrhoea (lasted five weeks) two months after I finished the treatment.

                                        It was tricky getting the coristol replacement dose right. but I take 8mg predinolosone a day and it suits me just fine. There are other steroid-replacement drugs but prednisolone siuits me.

                                        One year on – cannot detect the tumors using a CT scan.

                                        MoiraM
                                        Participant

                                          I am in the UK. I had Ipi (3 mg/kg) as an outpatient. Two hours + variable waiting time in a day-treatment clinic four times, three weeks apart. Just a simple infusion. One blood test in between each treatment when I went to the cliinic to see my oncologist.

                                          I got rash and diarrhoea (contolled with hydrocortisone cream and Imodium). Then, after the fourth and last treatment, my antierior pituitary was affected and I am like John, no anterior pituitary function and thereforre no thyroid or adrenal gland function. Like John. I take two pills each morning and I cannot do as much as I used to.

                                          I also has a reoccurence of the rash (lasted a month) and the diarrhoea (lasted five weeks) two months after I finished the treatment.

                                          It was tricky getting the coristol replacement dose right. but I take 8mg predinolosone a day and it suits me just fine. There are other steroid-replacement drugs but prednisolone siuits me.

                                          One year on – cannot detect the tumors using a CT scan.

                                            Bennickliz
                                            Participant

                                              Diagnosed 3 years ago stage 4, unknown primary.

                                              2 rounds of ippi. Very mild side effects. Continued working.

                                              Met to femur, radiated. Went on disability. Worked in large teaching hospital as respiratory therapist. Job was physically demanding and stressful. I miss my job, but I can concentrate on my health and family. My blood pressure has never been lower.

                                              2 rounds of IL2.  This treatments by far was the worst. 

                                              Radiation to adrenal gland.

                                              Started ippi/nivo combo August 2015.

                                              Port installed. Best thing ever. Highly recommend it.

                                              I've been on nivo every 2 weeks.

                                              I'm a partial responder at this point. 

                                              No real side effects, but mild fatigue.

                                              I always try to stay one step ahead of things. If this treatment doesn't work, then what will be next. I like being proactive. My onc has suggested at times to do the wait and see approach, but that makes me anxious. I want to make sure I try everything I can to beat this. You never know what might work. I haven't had the side effects that you've described Charles as having, so I know you are in a more difficult place. I'm just happy I've made it 3 years and if I can keep this disease as chronic and continue to see my children grow as adults, I'll be satisfied. 

                                              Prayers to both of you!

                                              Becky

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                               

                                              Bennickliz
                                              Participant

                                                Diagnosed 3 years ago stage 4, unknown primary.

                                                2 rounds of ippi. Very mild side effects. Continued working.

                                                Met to femur, radiated. Went on disability. Worked in large teaching hospital as respiratory therapist. Job was physically demanding and stressful. I miss my job, but I can concentrate on my health and family. My blood pressure has never been lower.

                                                2 rounds of IL2.  This treatments by far was the worst. 

                                                Radiation to adrenal gland.

                                                Started ippi/nivo combo August 2015.

                                                Port installed. Best thing ever. Highly recommend it.

                                                I've been on nivo every 2 weeks.

                                                I'm a partial responder at this point. 

                                                No real side effects, but mild fatigue.

                                                I always try to stay one step ahead of things. If this treatment doesn't work, then what will be next. I like being proactive. My onc has suggested at times to do the wait and see approach, but that makes me anxious. I want to make sure I try everything I can to beat this. You never know what might work. I haven't had the side effects that you've described Charles as having, so I know you are in a more difficult place. I'm just happy I've made it 3 years and if I can keep this disease as chronic and continue to see my children grow as adults, I'll be satisfied. 

                                                Prayers to both of you!

                                                Becky

                                                 

                                                 

                                                 

                                                 

                                                 

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Bennickliz
                                                Participant

                                                  Diagnosed 3 years ago stage 4, unknown primary.

                                                  2 rounds of ippi. Very mild side effects. Continued working.

                                                  Met to femur, radiated. Went on disability. Worked in large teaching hospital as respiratory therapist. Job was physically demanding and stressful. I miss my job, but I can concentrate on my health and family. My blood pressure has never been lower.

                                                  2 rounds of IL2.  This treatments by far was the worst. 

                                                  Radiation to adrenal gland.

                                                  Started ippi/nivo combo August 2015.

                                                  Port installed. Best thing ever. Highly recommend it.

                                                  I've been on nivo every 2 weeks.

                                                  I'm a partial responder at this point. 

                                                  No real side effects, but mild fatigue.

                                                  I always try to stay one step ahead of things. If this treatment doesn't work, then what will be next. I like being proactive. My onc has suggested at times to do the wait and see approach, but that makes me anxious. I want to make sure I try everything I can to beat this. You never know what might work. I haven't had the side effects that you've described Charles as having, so I know you are in a more difficult place. I'm just happy I've made it 3 years and if I can keep this disease as chronic and continue to see my children grow as adults, I'll be satisfied. 

                                                  Prayers to both of you!

                                                  Becky

                                                   

                                                   

                                                   

                                                   

                                                   

                                                   

                                                   

                                                MoiraM
                                                Participant

                                                  I am in the UK. I had Ipi (3 mg/kg) as an outpatient. Two hours + variable waiting time in a day-treatment clinic four times, three weeks apart. Just a simple infusion. One blood test in between each treatment when I went to the cliinic to see my oncologist.

                                                  I got rash and diarrhoea (contolled with hydrocortisone cream and Imodium). Then, after the fourth and last treatment, my antierior pituitary was affected and I am like John, no anterior pituitary function and thereforre no thyroid or adrenal gland function. Like John. I take two pills each morning and I cannot do as much as I used to.

                                                  I also has a reoccurence of the rash (lasted a month) and the diarrhoea (lasted five weeks) two months after I finished the treatment.

                                                  It was tricky getting the coristol replacement dose right. but I take 8mg predinolosone a day and it suits me just fine. There are other steroid-replacement drugs but prednisolone siuits me.

                                                  One year on – cannot detect the tumors using a CT scan.

                                                  Patrisa
                                                  Participant

                                                    Dear Rita and Charles,

                                                    my father (stage IV), has been on Keytruda since the end of January this year, no side effects what so ever, his first pet scan was last week, we have to wait another week to get results… His last app with his onco was very incouraging, his biggest visible tumor 5x5cm is down to 0.5cm and the smaller one dissapeared… We are keeping our fingers crossed that his two lung mets have responded as well as his subcutaneous ones did…

                                                    He feels great and is really thankefull that he got the help he desperately needed ( he thought his only option was chemo – did not want to go through that)

                                                    So hang in there guys, believe that it will work for you (like it has for many many others)!

                                                    praying for all of us!!

                                                    Patrisa

                                                    Patrisa
                                                    Participant

                                                      Dear Rita and Charles,

                                                      my father (stage IV), has been on Keytruda since the end of January this year, no side effects what so ever, his first pet scan was last week, we have to wait another week to get results… His last app with his onco was very incouraging, his biggest visible tumor 5x5cm is down to 0.5cm and the smaller one dissapeared… We are keeping our fingers crossed that his two lung mets have responded as well as his subcutaneous ones did…

                                                      He feels great and is really thankefull that he got the help he desperately needed ( he thought his only option was chemo – did not want to go through that)

                                                      So hang in there guys, believe that it will work for you (like it has for many many others)!

                                                      praying for all of us!!

                                                      Patrisa

                                                      Patrisa
                                                      Participant

                                                        Dear Rita and Charles,

                                                        my father (stage IV), has been on Keytruda since the end of January this year, no side effects what so ever, his first pet scan was last week, we have to wait another week to get results… His last app with his onco was very incouraging, his biggest visible tumor 5x5cm is down to 0.5cm and the smaller one dissapeared… We are keeping our fingers crossed that his two lung mets have responded as well as his subcutaneous ones did…

                                                        He feels great and is really thankefull that he got the help he desperately needed ( he thought his only option was chemo – did not want to go through that)

                                                        So hang in there guys, believe that it will work for you (like it has for many many others)!

                                                        praying for all of us!!

                                                        Patrisa

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