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- January 5, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Hi Everybody! I've posted on here before because I'm a Stage 4 survivor, but today I'm posting for someone else who is really struggling with side effects after 2 high dose infusions of Yervoy administered in the adjuvant setting for Stage 3. I believe her last infusion was in October. Since then she has had severe colitis. She has been treated with steroids, Immodium, anti-nausea meds, back and forth to the emergency room for fluids and potassium, but the colitis, nausea, and accompanying pain continues all day and night. A recent CT scan and colonoscopy showed inlammation all throughout her stomach and colon. She is currently being treated at Guthrie Robert Packer Hospital in Sayre, Pennsylvania. Her oncologist lists melanoma as one of his clinical interests. She is truly miserable and has been unable to work for several months. Her primary was on her foot resulting in the amputation of two toes and removal of lymph nodes in her groin. She is also suffering through lymphedema but right now this is secondary to the colitis ordeal.
She is considering going for a consult at Sloan Kettering.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
Prayers and praise for all of you who are melanoma warriors and those who are supporting you.
Terrie
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:24 pm
Terrie,
Sorry to hear about your friend's troubles. I had the exact same scenario, grade 4 (4.5 if you ask my onc) ipi-induced colitis after 2 doses. After a couple weeks back and forth at the ER with pain, diarrhea, etc, I landed in the hospital for 9 days. 7 days on IV steroids couldn't get it under control. I eventually ended up getting Remicade, and that finally did the trick. I had to get two doses, and I was also on a high dose taper of oral steroids for a couple months.
My advice, DO NOT mess around with colitis. Has she seen a GI specialist? I was thisclose to having part of my bowel removed. On-call surgery literally checked on me every 2 hours for several days to make sure I didn't have a bowel perforation. It sounds like your friend has been dealing with this for a while, so hopefully hers isn't as aggressive, but I would get her to a GI doc ASAP. Ask about drugs used specifically for ulcerative colitis if the steroids aren't working.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:24 pm
Terrie,
Sorry to hear about your friend's troubles. I had the exact same scenario, grade 4 (4.5 if you ask my onc) ipi-induced colitis after 2 doses. After a couple weeks back and forth at the ER with pain, diarrhea, etc, I landed in the hospital for 9 days. 7 days on IV steroids couldn't get it under control. I eventually ended up getting Remicade, and that finally did the trick. I had to get two doses, and I was also on a high dose taper of oral steroids for a couple months.
My advice, DO NOT mess around with colitis. Has she seen a GI specialist? I was thisclose to having part of my bowel removed. On-call surgery literally checked on me every 2 hours for several days to make sure I didn't have a bowel perforation. It sounds like your friend has been dealing with this for a while, so hopefully hers isn't as aggressive, but I would get her to a GI doc ASAP. Ask about drugs used specifically for ulcerative colitis if the steroids aren't working.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:24 pm
Terrie,
Sorry to hear about your friend's troubles. I had the exact same scenario, grade 4 (4.5 if you ask my onc) ipi-induced colitis after 2 doses. After a couple weeks back and forth at the ER with pain, diarrhea, etc, I landed in the hospital for 9 days. 7 days on IV steroids couldn't get it under control. I eventually ended up getting Remicade, and that finally did the trick. I had to get two doses, and I was also on a high dose taper of oral steroids for a couple months.
My advice, DO NOT mess around with colitis. Has she seen a GI specialist? I was thisclose to having part of my bowel removed. On-call surgery literally checked on me every 2 hours for several days to make sure I didn't have a bowel perforation. It sounds like your friend has been dealing with this for a while, so hopefully hers isn't as aggressive, but I would get her to a GI doc ASAP. Ask about drugs used specifically for ulcerative colitis if the steroids aren't working.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:32 pm
An oncologist with a "clinical interest" in melanoma is NOT a melanoma specialist and getting an opinion at SK with a melanoma oncologist would be a great idea. Agree with the other poster, this is not something to mess around with and should get to a GI doc right away if she hasn't already. If she has and they can't get it under control, then she should find a different one. Hope she gets this under control soon.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:32 pm
An oncologist with a "clinical interest" in melanoma is NOT a melanoma specialist and getting an opinion at SK with a melanoma oncologist would be a great idea. Agree with the other poster, this is not something to mess around with and should get to a GI doc right away if she hasn't already. If she has and they can't get it under control, then she should find a different one. Hope she gets this under control soon.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:32 pm
An oncologist with a "clinical interest" in melanoma is NOT a melanoma specialist and getting an opinion at SK with a melanoma oncologist would be a great idea. Agree with the other poster, this is not something to mess around with and should get to a GI doc right away if she hasn't already. If she has and they can't get it under control, then she should find a different one. Hope she gets this under control soon.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:49 pm
Hi Terrie,
That sounds pretty awful. Has she been seen by a gastro specialist yet ?
This isworth a look as infliximab resolved 100% of the higher grade cases. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4913344/ Might be worth asking about as it isa long time since October.
She could try changing to an ulcerative collitis friendly diet and make sure she includes prebiotic foods.
Have heard that probiotics can be helpful when this is a problem and have used them myself whilst on ipi nivo as a good gut microbiome should help the treatment work, if the mouse studies translate to humans.
I use Biokult- and VSL3# every other day. There are studies that show the VSL product can help with ulcerative collitis in particular pouchitis, and it is approved for this purpose as a prescription product in the UK.
If this has been going on for months no wonder she reaching out for help… Don't know much about the hospital but maybe a second opinion on side effect management by a melanoma specialist might be an idea ?
I'm in checkmate 401 where they are investigating if the side effect profile of ipi nivo is better if managed by experience immunotherapy docs, but this is not a USA trial.
shows melanoma trials with ipi currently recruiting in Pennsylvania. If your friend is willing to consider a second opinion she can extract from the trials list where the research centres are in Pennsylvania and by rights that should be where the expertise in managing the drug side effects are located.
Think I'mout of ideas now..
Wishing you both well,
Deb
w/NCT02739386?term=ipilimumab&rank=10.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:49 pm
Hi Terrie,
That sounds pretty awful. Has she been seen by a gastro specialist yet ?
This isworth a look as infliximab resolved 100% of the higher grade cases. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4913344/ Might be worth asking about as it isa long time since October.
She could try changing to an ulcerative collitis friendly diet and make sure she includes prebiotic foods.
Have heard that probiotics can be helpful when this is a problem and have used them myself whilst on ipi nivo as a good gut microbiome should help the treatment work, if the mouse studies translate to humans.
I use Biokult- and VSL3# every other day. There are studies that show the VSL product can help with ulcerative collitis in particular pouchitis, and it is approved for this purpose as a prescription product in the UK.
If this has been going on for months no wonder she reaching out for help… Don't know much about the hospital but maybe a second opinion on side effect management by a melanoma specialist might be an idea ?
I'm in checkmate 401 where they are investigating if the side effect profile of ipi nivo is better if managed by experience immunotherapy docs, but this is not a USA trial.
shows melanoma trials with ipi currently recruiting in Pennsylvania. If your friend is willing to consider a second opinion she can extract from the trials list where the research centres are in Pennsylvania and by rights that should be where the expertise in managing the drug side effects are located.
Think I'mout of ideas now..
Wishing you both well,
Deb
w/NCT02739386?term=ipilimumab&rank=10.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:49 pm
Hi Terrie,
That sounds pretty awful. Has she been seen by a gastro specialist yet ?
This isworth a look as infliximab resolved 100% of the higher grade cases. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4913344/ Might be worth asking about as it isa long time since October.
She could try changing to an ulcerative collitis friendly diet and make sure she includes prebiotic foods.
Have heard that probiotics can be helpful when this is a problem and have used them myself whilst on ipi nivo as a good gut microbiome should help the treatment work, if the mouse studies translate to humans.
I use Biokult- and VSL3# every other day. There are studies that show the VSL product can help with ulcerative collitis in particular pouchitis, and it is approved for this purpose as a prescription product in the UK.
If this has been going on for months no wonder she reaching out for help… Don't know much about the hospital but maybe a second opinion on side effect management by a melanoma specialist might be an idea ?
I'm in checkmate 401 where they are investigating if the side effect profile of ipi nivo is better if managed by experience immunotherapy docs, but this is not a USA trial.
shows melanoma trials with ipi currently recruiting in Pennsylvania. If your friend is willing to consider a second opinion she can extract from the trials list where the research centres are in Pennsylvania and by rights that should be where the expertise in managing the drug side effects are located.
Think I'mout of ideas now..
Wishing you both well,
Deb
w/NCT02739386?term=ipilimumab&rank=10.
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:56 pm
PS remicade and infliximab are the same drug- think we are all singing from roughly the same hymn sheet-intervention is needed on this sooner rather than later and by docs who are experienced in GI probs and immunotherapy ideally working hand in hand.
D
PS Give her a hug from me next time you meet up…….
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:56 pm
PS remicade and infliximab are the same drug- think we are all singing from roughly the same hymn sheet-intervention is needed on this sooner rather than later and by docs who are experienced in GI probs and immunotherapy ideally working hand in hand.
D
PS Give her a hug from me next time you meet up…….
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- January 6, 2017 at 12:25 am
Thank you so much, Deb! She acutally lives in New York but right on the border of PA so she could go either way. We greatly appreciate your help and the links. She has really had a rough go of it and is ready to go the extra mile for treatment. I'm going to take a look at the links now. Thanks again and my best to you.
When I see her I'll give her a hug for you!
Terrie
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- January 6, 2017 at 12:25 am
Thank you so much, Deb! She acutally lives in New York but right on the border of PA so she could go either way. We greatly appreciate your help and the links. She has really had a rough go of it and is ready to go the extra mile for treatment. I'm going to take a look at the links now. Thanks again and my best to you.
When I see her I'll give her a hug for you!
Terrie
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- January 6, 2017 at 12:25 am
Thank you so much, Deb! She acutally lives in New York but right on the border of PA so she could go either way. We greatly appreciate your help and the links. She has really had a rough go of it and is ready to go the extra mile for treatment. I'm going to take a look at the links now. Thanks again and my best to you.
When I see her I'll give her a hug for you!
Terrie
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- January 5, 2017 at 9:56 pm
PS remicade and infliximab are the same drug- think we are all singing from roughly the same hymn sheet-intervention is needed on this sooner rather than later and by docs who are experienced in GI probs and immunotherapy ideally working hand in hand.
D
PS Give her a hug from me next time you meet up…….
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- January 6, 2017 at 6:05 am
My Mom had a severe case of colitis and they tried prednizone, but even after a month it wasn't much better. Eventually it resolved and they gave her a 3rd dose of Yervoy because she had brain mets and Keytruda wasn't available. She ended up with severe colitis again and the prednizone didn't work this time.
What did work was a enema. It was some sort of prednizone enema I think. My Mom felt better the next day and the colitis was gone in about a week.
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- January 6, 2017 at 6:05 am
My Mom had a severe case of colitis and they tried prednizone, but even after a month it wasn't much better. Eventually it resolved and they gave her a 3rd dose of Yervoy because she had brain mets and Keytruda wasn't available. She ended up with severe colitis again and the prednizone didn't work this time.
What did work was a enema. It was some sort of prednizone enema I think. My Mom felt better the next day and the colitis was gone in about a week.
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- January 6, 2017 at 6:05 am
My Mom had a severe case of colitis and they tried prednizone, but even after a month it wasn't much better. Eventually it resolved and they gave her a 3rd dose of Yervoy because she had brain mets and Keytruda wasn't available. She ended up with severe colitis again and the prednizone didn't work this time.
What did work was a enema. It was some sort of prednizone enema I think. My Mom felt better the next day and the colitis was gone in about a week.
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- January 6, 2017 at 2:19 pm
I'm not sure if this helped me but after 4 doses of the combo, 4 single doses of nivo and back to 1 combo dose I never got any stomach/intestine issues. I like to think because I was already on hydrocodone for other issues and I ate a pbj sandwhich everyday to stay "thick" that this helped. I have had at least one side effect since the second week and at times had 3 or 4 going on at the same time but never stomach issues. Like I stated, don't know it my pain medication and eating peanut butter had anything to do with it or not.
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- January 6, 2017 at 2:19 pm
I'm not sure if this helped me but after 4 doses of the combo, 4 single doses of nivo and back to 1 combo dose I never got any stomach/intestine issues. I like to think because I was already on hydrocodone for other issues and I ate a pbj sandwhich everyday to stay "thick" that this helped. I have had at least one side effect since the second week and at times had 3 or 4 going on at the same time but never stomach issues. Like I stated, don't know it my pain medication and eating peanut butter had anything to do with it or not.
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- January 6, 2017 at 2:19 pm
I'm not sure if this helped me but after 4 doses of the combo, 4 single doses of nivo and back to 1 combo dose I never got any stomach/intestine issues. I like to think because I was already on hydrocodone for other issues and I ate a pbj sandwhich everyday to stay "thick" that this helped. I have had at least one side effect since the second week and at times had 3 or 4 going on at the same time but never stomach issues. Like I stated, don't know it my pain medication and eating peanut butter had anything to do with it or not.
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