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- September 27, 2012 at 7:10 pm
My husband just found out results of his lung biopsy and his one cm lung nodule is melanoma. He met with a surgeon today. He was stage II in March and now we are dealing with stage IV! I am so scared!! They will remove the nodule very soon, but he will be dropped from the study because the interferon didn’t work. We live in the Washington/dc area. My husband is also negative for c-kit and BRAF which really limits our choices. Does anyone have any recommendations? yervoy? Anti pd-1? Supplements? I am desperate to help my husband and keep my sanity at the same time.My husband just found out results of his lung biopsy and his one cm lung nodule is melanoma. He met with a surgeon today. He was stage II in March and now we are dealing with stage IV! I am so scared!! They will remove the nodule very soon, but he will be dropped from the study because the interferon didn’t work. We live in the Washington/dc area. My husband is also negative for c-kit and BRAF which really limits our choices. Does anyone have any recommendations? yervoy? Anti pd-1? Supplements? I am desperate to help my husband and keep my sanity at the same time. We are seeing a melanoma specialist at WHC, but we are scheduling a second opinion at Hopkins. Thank you for any help!
Maureen038
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- September 27, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I'm sorry to hear that your husband's melanoma has progressed. It's hard to stay calm and focused when you're in your situation. We've all been there.
You are doing the right thing by soliciting a second opinion. If it's any consolation, Hopkins has a trial going on for those with acral melanoma. I don't know if your husband would qualify but it is something worth asking about.
ECOG 2607: Phase II Study of Dasatinib in Patients with Unresectable Locally Advanced or Metastatic Mucosal, Acral, or Solar Melanoma. This is a phase II multicenter study for patients with locally advanced or metastatic mucosal melanoma (arising in the mucous membranes, such as the nostrils, mouth, or rectum), acral melanoma (arising in the palms, soles or under the nails), or solar melanoma (arising in skin with long-term sun damage) that cannot be removed by surgery. The purpose of this study is to evaluate if dasatinib can cause tumor regression in patients with these specific types of melanoma. Dasatinib is an oral medication that blocks some of the molecules needed for tumor growth. Dasatinib has historically been used in patients with certain types of leukemia, but has shown some activity in patients with certain types of melanoma. On this trial, patients will receive dasatinib by mouth twice a day. Treatment may continue for as long as benefit is shown. After finishing treatment, patients will be evaluated periodically for up to 5 years. Eligible patients must be at least 18 years old, have measurable disease and be at least 4 weeks out from chemotherapy, biological therapy, or radiation therapy. Patients who have had previous imatinib or sunitinib are not eligible. Patients with melanomas arising in the eye (ocular) are not eligible. Prior radiotherapy to a measurable lesion is allowed provided there is radiographic evidence of progression of that lesion. Patients may have brain metastases provided they have completed radiotherapy or surgical treatment, there is no evidence of progression for at least 8 weeks, and they do not require steroids. Tumor biopsy material must be available to evaluate genetic changes associated with susceptibility to dasatinib.
It's entirely possible that he may qualify for one of their other trials. But you won't know until you see one of their doctors.
As far as supplements go, you need to do your homework on them. And, lots of it. Medical doctors generally know little about them. MD Anderson in Houston has done studies on curcumin/turmeric. You may want to google that. You can also try to search this site for information on supplements.
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- September 27, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I'm sorry to hear that your husband's melanoma has progressed. It's hard to stay calm and focused when you're in your situation. We've all been there.
You are doing the right thing by soliciting a second opinion. If it's any consolation, Hopkins has a trial going on for those with acral melanoma. I don't know if your husband would qualify but it is something worth asking about.
ECOG 2607: Phase II Study of Dasatinib in Patients with Unresectable Locally Advanced or Metastatic Mucosal, Acral, or Solar Melanoma. This is a phase II multicenter study for patients with locally advanced or metastatic mucosal melanoma (arising in the mucous membranes, such as the nostrils, mouth, or rectum), acral melanoma (arising in the palms, soles or under the nails), or solar melanoma (arising in skin with long-term sun damage) that cannot be removed by surgery. The purpose of this study is to evaluate if dasatinib can cause tumor regression in patients with these specific types of melanoma. Dasatinib is an oral medication that blocks some of the molecules needed for tumor growth. Dasatinib has historically been used in patients with certain types of leukemia, but has shown some activity in patients with certain types of melanoma. On this trial, patients will receive dasatinib by mouth twice a day. Treatment may continue for as long as benefit is shown. After finishing treatment, patients will be evaluated periodically for up to 5 years. Eligible patients must be at least 18 years old, have measurable disease and be at least 4 weeks out from chemotherapy, biological therapy, or radiation therapy. Patients who have had previous imatinib or sunitinib are not eligible. Patients with melanomas arising in the eye (ocular) are not eligible. Prior radiotherapy to a measurable lesion is allowed provided there is radiographic evidence of progression of that lesion. Patients may have brain metastases provided they have completed radiotherapy or surgical treatment, there is no evidence of progression for at least 8 weeks, and they do not require steroids. Tumor biopsy material must be available to evaluate genetic changes associated with susceptibility to dasatinib.
It's entirely possible that he may qualify for one of their other trials. But you won't know until you see one of their doctors.
As far as supplements go, you need to do your homework on them. And, lots of it. Medical doctors generally know little about them. MD Anderson in Houston has done studies on curcumin/turmeric. You may want to google that. You can also try to search this site for information on supplements.
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- September 27, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Thank you for all of your help Linny! I made an appointment today with the thoracic team at John Hopkins because the nodule needs to come out first. Then they said we can meet with the oncologist of our choice. I should find out tomorrow what day next week we can meet and hopefully the surgery will be the following week. I was so anxious today, but I feel better that we have a new plan of attack. Thanks again!
Maureen038 -
- September 27, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Thank you for all of your help Linny! I made an appointment today with the thoracic team at John Hopkins because the nodule needs to come out first. Then they said we can meet with the oncologist of our choice. I should find out tomorrow what day next week we can meet and hopefully the surgery will be the following week. I was so anxious today, but I feel better that we have a new plan of attack. Thanks again!
Maureen038 -
- September 27, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Thank you for all of your help Linny! I made an appointment today with the thoracic team at John Hopkins because the nodule needs to come out first. Then they said we can meet with the oncologist of our choice. I should find out tomorrow what day next week we can meet and hopefully the surgery will be the following week. I was so anxious today, but I feel better that we have a new plan of attack. Thanks again!
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- September 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm
You're welcome!
Having a plan of attack does a lot to relieve stress. In its own way, it makes you feel less helpless. You've also gotten some more wonderful feedback.
As you can see, there are some potential options for your husband. And that's a good thing.
I had my lymph node dissection done at Hopkins and it was a real trip. LOL. The best phrase i can use to describe the experience is "organized chaos" because the pre-op and post-op were a bit hectic due to the volume of people having surgery the same day I was. The operating room was fine. Perhaps the strangest part of the entire day was that I walked into the operating room, as opposed to being transported there by gurney. But overall, I was very happy with the care I received that day. I still remember my nurse's name. It was Victoria. She had a great sense of humor and kept me laughing through a stressful time.
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- September 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm
You're welcome!
Having a plan of attack does a lot to relieve stress. In its own way, it makes you feel less helpless. You've also gotten some more wonderful feedback.
As you can see, there are some potential options for your husband. And that's a good thing.
I had my lymph node dissection done at Hopkins and it was a real trip. LOL. The best phrase i can use to describe the experience is "organized chaos" because the pre-op and post-op were a bit hectic due to the volume of people having surgery the same day I was. The operating room was fine. Perhaps the strangest part of the entire day was that I walked into the operating room, as opposed to being transported there by gurney. But overall, I was very happy with the care I received that day. I still remember my nurse's name. It was Victoria. She had a great sense of humor and kept me laughing through a stressful time.
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- September 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm
You're welcome!
Having a plan of attack does a lot to relieve stress. In its own way, it makes you feel less helpless. You've also gotten some more wonderful feedback.
As you can see, there are some potential options for your husband. And that's a good thing.
I had my lymph node dissection done at Hopkins and it was a real trip. LOL. The best phrase i can use to describe the experience is "organized chaos" because the pre-op and post-op were a bit hectic due to the volume of people having surgery the same day I was. The operating room was fine. Perhaps the strangest part of the entire day was that I walked into the operating room, as opposed to being transported there by gurney. But overall, I was very happy with the care I received that day. I still remember my nurse's name. It was Victoria. She had a great sense of humor and kept me laughing through a stressful time.
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- September 27, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I'm sorry to hear that your husband's melanoma has progressed. It's hard to stay calm and focused when you're in your situation. We've all been there.
You are doing the right thing by soliciting a second opinion. If it's any consolation, Hopkins has a trial going on for those with acral melanoma. I don't know if your husband would qualify but it is something worth asking about.
ECOG 2607: Phase II Study of Dasatinib in Patients with Unresectable Locally Advanced or Metastatic Mucosal, Acral, or Solar Melanoma. This is a phase II multicenter study for patients with locally advanced or metastatic mucosal melanoma (arising in the mucous membranes, such as the nostrils, mouth, or rectum), acral melanoma (arising in the palms, soles or under the nails), or solar melanoma (arising in skin with long-term sun damage) that cannot be removed by surgery. The purpose of this study is to evaluate if dasatinib can cause tumor regression in patients with these specific types of melanoma. Dasatinib is an oral medication that blocks some of the molecules needed for tumor growth. Dasatinib has historically been used in patients with certain types of leukemia, but has shown some activity in patients with certain types of melanoma. On this trial, patients will receive dasatinib by mouth twice a day. Treatment may continue for as long as benefit is shown. After finishing treatment, patients will be evaluated periodically for up to 5 years. Eligible patients must be at least 18 years old, have measurable disease and be at least 4 weeks out from chemotherapy, biological therapy, or radiation therapy. Patients who have had previous imatinib or sunitinib are not eligible. Patients with melanomas arising in the eye (ocular) are not eligible. Prior radiotherapy to a measurable lesion is allowed provided there is radiographic evidence of progression of that lesion. Patients may have brain metastases provided they have completed radiotherapy or surgical treatment, there is no evidence of progression for at least 8 weeks, and they do not require steroids. Tumor biopsy material must be available to evaluate genetic changes associated with susceptibility to dasatinib.
It's entirely possible that he may qualify for one of their other trials. But you won't know until you see one of their doctors.
As far as supplements go, you need to do your homework on them. And, lots of it. Medical doctors generally know little about them. MD Anderson in Houston has done studies on curcumin/turmeric. You may want to google that. You can also try to search this site for information on supplements.
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- September 27, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Maureen,
Stage IV is serious, but it can be beat. I beat it with a lot of help and support from my wife, and good care. My initial diagnosis was stage 4 melanoma in February 2006, when I was living in Northern Virginia. I went to Hopkins and saw Dr Sharfman. I did 3 courses of IL-2 (2 rounds each), because the tumors were shrinking/disappearing after each course. After the 3rd course, I only had one enlarged lymph node left, but it was getting bigger. I was sent to NIH in Bethesda and participated in 2 different immunotherapy clinical trials. I got a partial response in the first one, then had a brain met and went back to Hopkins to Dr Kleinberg for gamma knife. The second clinical trial at NIH was December of 2007. By November of 2008 there no trace of disease. I have been clean since. Since you are in the DC area I would suggest you investigate similar options. Best of luck to you.
Steve (living in Maine)
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- September 28, 2012 at 12:03 am
Thanks Steve for giving us hope! We made an appointment today for John Hopkins. A few other people have mentioned Dr. sharfman as being an amazing oncologist so we are looking forward to meeting him! Thanks again and we are so happy for both of you! We hope we can say the same thing years from now.
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- September 28, 2012 at 12:03 am
Thanks Steve for giving us hope! We made an appointment today for John Hopkins. A few other people have mentioned Dr. sharfman as being an amazing oncologist so we are looking forward to meeting him! Thanks again and we are so happy for both of you! We hope we can say the same thing years from now.
Maureen038 -
- September 28, 2012 at 12:03 am
Thanks Steve for giving us hope! We made an appointment today for John Hopkins. A few other people have mentioned Dr. sharfman as being an amazing oncologist so we are looking forward to meeting him! Thanks again and we are so happy for both of you! We hope we can say the same thing years from now.
Maureen038 -
- September 28, 2012 at 12:04 am
Thanks Steve for giving us hope! We made an appointment today for John Hopkins. A few other people have mentioned Dr. sharfman as being an amazing oncologist so we are looking forward to meeting him! Thanks again and we are so happy for both of you! We hope we can say the same thing years from now.
Maureen038 -
- September 28, 2012 at 12:04 am
Thanks Steve for giving us hope! We made an appointment today for John Hopkins. A few other people have mentioned Dr. sharfman as being an amazing oncologist so we are looking forward to meeting him! Thanks again and we are so happy for both of you! We hope we can say the same thing years from now.
Maureen038 -
- September 28, 2012 at 12:04 am
Thanks Steve for giving us hope! We made an appointment today for John Hopkins. A few other people have mentioned Dr. sharfman as being an amazing oncologist so we are looking forward to meeting him! Thanks again and we are so happy for both of you! We hope we can say the same thing years from now.
Maureen038
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- September 27, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Maureen,
Stage IV is serious, but it can be beat. I beat it with a lot of help and support from my wife, and good care. My initial diagnosis was stage 4 melanoma in February 2006, when I was living in Northern Virginia. I went to Hopkins and saw Dr Sharfman. I did 3 courses of IL-2 (2 rounds each), because the tumors were shrinking/disappearing after each course. After the 3rd course, I only had one enlarged lymph node left, but it was getting bigger. I was sent to NIH in Bethesda and participated in 2 different immunotherapy clinical trials. I got a partial response in the first one, then had a brain met and went back to Hopkins to Dr Kleinberg for gamma knife. The second clinical trial at NIH was December of 2007. By November of 2008 there no trace of disease. I have been clean since. Since you are in the DC area I would suggest you investigate similar options. Best of luck to you.
Steve (living in Maine)
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- September 27, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Maureen,
Stage IV is serious, but it can be beat. I beat it with a lot of help and support from my wife, and good care. My initial diagnosis was stage 4 melanoma in February 2006, when I was living in Northern Virginia. I went to Hopkins and saw Dr Sharfman. I did 3 courses of IL-2 (2 rounds each), because the tumors were shrinking/disappearing after each course. After the 3rd course, I only had one enlarged lymph node left, but it was getting bigger. I was sent to NIH in Bethesda and participated in 2 different immunotherapy clinical trials. I got a partial response in the first one, then had a brain met and went back to Hopkins to Dr Kleinberg for gamma knife. The second clinical trial at NIH was December of 2007. By November of 2008 there no trace of disease. I have been clean since. Since you are in the DC area I would suggest you investigate similar options. Best of luck to you.
Steve (living in Maine)
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- September 28, 2012 at 5:54 am
Maureen, I live in Northern Va and go to UVA. They are very good Oncologist there to.
Dr Sharfman at John Hopkins has a great reputation and is envolved in much cutting edge work and trials.
All the Dasatinib melanoma trials I have heard of relaate to the c-kit melanomas.
I do use the curcumic and an adult aspirin a day in my supplements. I used to take fair amount of anti-oxidents until I went on the Gleevec (Same class of drug as the Dasatinib). These drugs are delivered into the tumor cells by oxidents, so heavy amounts of anti-oxidents, in many researchers beliefs, may reduce the volume of the active ingredient that gets inside the tumor cells. My maian anti oxidents now come from the fresh fruits and vegetables versus supplemental pills.
I have tried to increase (not drastically!) my intake of broccolli, asperagus and leavey green vegetables as well.
I lean towards IL-2 and Yervoy as the FDA approved immunological treatments to try if one does not have specific DNA mutations for which targeted treatments are available. Among the clinical trials, the Anti-PD-1 trials currently seem to provide the best option if one can get into one of these trials. There are different criteria for getting into different PD-1 trials.
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- September 28, 2012 at 5:54 am
Maureen, I live in Northern Va and go to UVA. They are very good Oncologist there to.
Dr Sharfman at John Hopkins has a great reputation and is envolved in much cutting edge work and trials.
All the Dasatinib melanoma trials I have heard of relaate to the c-kit melanomas.
I do use the curcumic and an adult aspirin a day in my supplements. I used to take fair amount of anti-oxidents until I went on the Gleevec (Same class of drug as the Dasatinib). These drugs are delivered into the tumor cells by oxidents, so heavy amounts of anti-oxidents, in many researchers beliefs, may reduce the volume of the active ingredient that gets inside the tumor cells. My maian anti oxidents now come from the fresh fruits and vegetables versus supplemental pills.
I have tried to increase (not drastically!) my intake of broccolli, asperagus and leavey green vegetables as well.
I lean towards IL-2 and Yervoy as the FDA approved immunological treatments to try if one does not have specific DNA mutations for which targeted treatments are available. Among the clinical trials, the Anti-PD-1 trials currently seem to provide the best option if one can get into one of these trials. There are different criteria for getting into different PD-1 trials.
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- September 28, 2012 at 5:54 am
Maureen, I live in Northern Va and go to UVA. They are very good Oncologist there to.
Dr Sharfman at John Hopkins has a great reputation and is envolved in much cutting edge work and trials.
All the Dasatinib melanoma trials I have heard of relaate to the c-kit melanomas.
I do use the curcumic and an adult aspirin a day in my supplements. I used to take fair amount of anti-oxidents until I went on the Gleevec (Same class of drug as the Dasatinib). These drugs are delivered into the tumor cells by oxidents, so heavy amounts of anti-oxidents, in many researchers beliefs, may reduce the volume of the active ingredient that gets inside the tumor cells. My maian anti oxidents now come from the fresh fruits and vegetables versus supplemental pills.
I have tried to increase (not drastically!) my intake of broccolli, asperagus and leavey green vegetables as well.
I lean towards IL-2 and Yervoy as the FDA approved immunological treatments to try if one does not have specific DNA mutations for which targeted treatments are available. Among the clinical trials, the Anti-PD-1 trials currently seem to provide the best option if one can get into one of these trials. There are different criteria for getting into different PD-1 trials.
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- September 28, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hi Maureen,
My wife Mariëtte is in the same situation as your husband, stage IV acral lentiginous, with mets in her lungs. She is in an anti-PD1 trial at UCSF in San Francisco. After 24 weeks she seems to be partially responsive in that the tumors stopped growing. It is very unlikely to be fully responsive to anti-PD1 with acral lentiginous, because it seems that there is no PD-L1 expression in that type, which recently was discovered to be an indication for responsiveness to anti-PD1.
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- September 28, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hi Maureen,
My wife Mariëtte is in the same situation as your husband, stage IV acral lentiginous, with mets in her lungs. She is in an anti-PD1 trial at UCSF in San Francisco. After 24 weeks she seems to be partially responsive in that the tumors stopped growing. It is very unlikely to be fully responsive to anti-PD1 with acral lentiginous, because it seems that there is no PD-L1 expression in that type, which recently was discovered to be an indication for responsiveness to anti-PD1.
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- September 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Thank you for the important info on anti-PD1. I did not know that.Has she been on Yervoy? My prayers go out to both of you! It’s very scary, but it’s important to have hope.
Maureen038 -
- September 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Thank you for the important info on anti-PD1. I did not know that.Has she been on Yervoy? My prayers go out to both of you! It’s very scary, but it’s important to have hope.
Maureen038 -
- September 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Thanks for your good thoughts Maureen. Mariëtte has not been on any other treatments. I just wanted to share that info. Most melanoma patients regard getting in a PD1 trial as the holy grail. For some it really is a miracle cure. I wish you both the very best. There's a lot going on in melanoma research and more reason for hope than ever before.
Kees
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- September 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Thanks for your good thoughts Maureen. Mariëtte has not been on any other treatments. I just wanted to share that info. Most melanoma patients regard getting in a PD1 trial as the holy grail. For some it really is a miracle cure. I wish you both the very best. There's a lot going on in melanoma research and more reason for hope than ever before.
Kees
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- September 29, 2012 at 7:14 pm
We have to be careful about considering any treatment as an across the board "Holy Grail". For a very low % of people their holy grail can be something that only works on much less than 1% of all melanoma patients. As I suspect Kees is pointing out, no one knows exactly what will be any one individuals success treatment. There are too many different melanoma oncoproteins, DNA mutations, and signaling paths. Much work is going on to relate what works on an individual to which of the melanoma paths their melanoma follows. The press releases when Yervoy and Zelboraf were approved sounded like they were melanoma's "Holy Grail". I suspect we are very far from a Holy Grail for across the baord melanoma. At least we are getting closer to success against specific melanomas.
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- September 29, 2012 at 7:14 pm
We have to be careful about considering any treatment as an across the board "Holy Grail". For a very low % of people their holy grail can be something that only works on much less than 1% of all melanoma patients. As I suspect Kees is pointing out, no one knows exactly what will be any one individuals success treatment. There are too many different melanoma oncoproteins, DNA mutations, and signaling paths. Much work is going on to relate what works on an individual to which of the melanoma paths their melanoma follows. The press releases when Yervoy and Zelboraf were approved sounded like they were melanoma's "Holy Grail". I suspect we are very far from a Holy Grail for across the baord melanoma. At least we are getting closer to success against specific melanomas.
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- September 29, 2012 at 7:14 pm
We have to be careful about considering any treatment as an across the board "Holy Grail". For a very low % of people their holy grail can be something that only works on much less than 1% of all melanoma patients. As I suspect Kees is pointing out, no one knows exactly what will be any one individuals success treatment. There are too many different melanoma oncoproteins, DNA mutations, and signaling paths. Much work is going on to relate what works on an individual to which of the melanoma paths their melanoma follows. The press releases when Yervoy and Zelboraf were approved sounded like they were melanoma's "Holy Grail". I suspect we are very far from a Holy Grail for across the baord melanoma. At least we are getting closer to success against specific melanomas.
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- September 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Thanks for your good thoughts Maureen. Mariëtte has not been on any other treatments. I just wanted to share that info. Most melanoma patients regard getting in a PD1 trial as the holy grail. For some it really is a miracle cure. I wish you both the very best. There's a lot going on in melanoma research and more reason for hope than ever before.
Kees
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- September 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Thank you for the important info on anti-PD1. I did not know that.Has she been on Yervoy? My prayers go out to both of you! It’s very scary, but it’s important to have hope.
Maureen038
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- September 28, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Hi Maureen,
My wife Mariëtte is in the same situation as your husband, stage IV acral lentiginous, with mets in her lungs. She is in an anti-PD1 trial at UCSF in San Francisco. After 24 weeks she seems to be partially responsive in that the tumors stopped growing. It is very unlikely to be fully responsive to anti-PD1 with acral lentiginous, because it seems that there is no PD-L1 expression in that type, which recently was discovered to be an indication for responsiveness to anti-PD1.
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