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- September 21, 2018 at 1:45 pm
Hi all – my mother was diagnosed in August with having stage 4 melanoma. It has spread to her brain, liver, spinal cord and lung – took us completely by surprise.
As there were multiple tumours in the brain (>10) and due to their positions on the brain, the doctors decided WBRT would be the first step forward.
We were told the next step most likely would be immunotherapy but we should wait for the biopsy results. When the biopsy results came back it was found that she has the BRAF mutation (not sure which one) and the doctors wanted to start us on the BRAF/MEK targeted therapy instead.
I was unsure about us switching to the targeted therapy when we had immunotherapy lined up but the doctor explained that it was a better option at this point in time since :
a) my mother is still on very high doses of cortisone which affects immunotherapy negatively
b) targeted therapy acts faster compared to immunotherapy in the cases they have seen and my mother's case calls for immediate results
c) the WBRT has most likely damaged the blood-brain barrier and the BRAF drugs would make their way there with greater success
We were going to start the treatment last Monday but the weekend leading to that my mother had a brain haemorrhage. Noone would agree to operate on her due to the risk, her being on blood thinner drugs and the extent of the damage. Miraculously, she seems to be slowly recovering, talking again, still in bed of course, with control of her limbs and she has started eating normally again. The doctors believe she is now stable and the haemorrage has most likely stopped as she is getting better each day. No CT scan to confirm this yet.
The doctors have said we should start the targeted therapy as soon as possible : Dabrafenib but only that one alone as a) the Trametinib drug has not yet arrived and b) Trametinib causes higher instances of haemorraghic events.
I understand that this is an incredibly difficult situation but I have been reading great things about these treatments. I haven't read anything about stage iv people with multiple sites of metastasis though.
My questions to you are – in your experience :
a) Does dafrabenib/ trametinib work well for people with many sites?
b) Have you or anyone you know started on dafrabenib and then added on trametinib a while later?
c) Is it worth me buying Trametinib privately than waiting for it to arrive? Worried that doctors are not giving trametinib because it hasn't arrived, not because it causes bleeding events.
d) When do we start seeing results of the targeted therapy – how do you guys check that it is working?
e) Should I ask the doctor that we switch to immunotherapy and cut down on cortisone to do this?
f) Really scared about what WBRT is going to do long term – when do you usually start seeing effects?
g) Should I push the doctors to find the primary location of the melanoma? It is non-melanotic (i.e. has no dye) so it's not easy to find but i can get a dermatologist to do what they need to do if it is necessary.
I keep telling myself my mother can get to an NED state if I everything works as expected and I'm not giving up hope.
Thanks for taking the time to read this – I have read plenty of the posts here. You are all going through a massive I wish for courage to you and your carers as well. Have a nice weekend everyone!
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- September 21, 2018 at 7:08 pm
Hi – I'll primarily respond to the Braf questions but for background, my husband was diagnosed in 2012 with mets to his cervical lymph nodes, abdominal area and brain. He has been treated with just about every available treatment and has had great success with Dabrafenib. He's been on it since 2013 and the tumors in his body have shrunk and been stable for years. Mekinist(Trametinib) was not available when he first started and was added later but caused so many side effects that he discontinued using it and has been only taking 3/4 dose of Dabrafenib since 2014 (or so). I would start without the Trametinib as recommended by the doc. FYI, my husband has also multiple brain mets treated with Gamma Knife and craniotomies – several issues with brain edema, as well. The brain edema has been treated with steroids – usually dexamethasone – as needed until the swelling subsides.
As with your mother, he had an unknown primary. His doc said "the horse is out of the barn" so didn't spend a lot of unusual effort trying to track down the primary spot. The primary may have regressed and will never be found. He sees a dermatologist regularly and no primary has ever been found.
Happy to answer any other questions.
Ann
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- September 22, 2018 at 2:15 am
You and your Mom have been going through a ton. I'm not a dr but I'll speak to bullet point e. Most likely the cortisone is necessary to reduce brain tumor complications or swelling in the brain and so asking to reduce to start immunotherapy probably isn't wise. My choice would be to go with their recommendation and hold immunotherapy in the back pocket if your Mom needs it.
I started with 2 brain tumors and was told by my oncologist that immunotherapy takes longer to work on the brain. I did have success but those tumors were very small. I had many others that were at least 3-4 times the size.
Stay positive and all your questions are great ones. I wish I could offer more answers but was never on this treatment plan so can't speak to it.
Good wishes to you both,
Jennifer
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- September 22, 2018 at 5:56 pm
Hi Anonymous, wow, but not surprising, quite a few Tumor locations to deal with in yer Mom (mine is lungs to) there is so many plans of attack these days compared to 10 years ago so, she has better chances of survival today!!..please keep us informed on your Mom ok? Bless her heart..
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