Combatting Nausea
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Combatting Nausea

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    • December 16, 2016 at 5:12 pm
    _Paul_
    Participant

    I will be starting a week of "Lympho-depletion" chemo on Tuesday in preparation to receiving my lab-grown TIL. But throwing up has always been at the top of my least favorite things list. I have some Ondansetron, and I think I heard one of the people on my care team say its ok to double the dose, but even so I suspect I will still be sick. My cast iron stomach is not what it used to be,

    I asked the folks in my cancer survivorship group their thoughts and what I cam away with was CBD capsules. One of the guys there (a very conservative guy) has been on chemo for years, and says the CBD has dramatically improved his quality of life. Apparently the CBD doesn't make one high like normal pot does (very appealing to me). The folks on my care team said pot was ok so long as I didn't smoke it.

    So I am planning on purchasing some CBD capsules.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks – Paul

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      • December 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm
      Casitas1
      Participant

      I would recommend CBD/THC. I take just enough to not get that high feeling(takes some experimenting) I started CBD in Jan.2016 on the same day as my first infusion of Pembro. I was about 140lbs and now i am 170 plus. It really helped with the nauseous and appetite + Ned so who knows?

      Best, Paul

      • December 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm
      Casitas1
      Participant

      I would recommend CBD/THC. I take just enough to not get that high feeling(takes some experimenting) I started CBD in Jan.2016 on the same day as my first infusion of Pembro. I was about 140lbs and now i am 170 plus. It really helped with the nauseous and appetite + Ned so who knows?

      Best, Paul

      • December 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm
      Casitas1
      Participant

      I would recommend CBD/THC. I take just enough to not get that high feeling(takes some experimenting) I started CBD in Jan.2016 on the same day as my first infusion of Pembro. I was about 140lbs and now i am 170 plus. It really helped with the nauseous and appetite + Ned so who knows?

      Best, Paul

      • December 17, 2016 at 1:38 am
      Bubbles
      Participant

      Hey, go for it!  I've always thrown up….no matter what.  No matter the procedure.  No matter the meds given to combat it.  Poor B!!!!  You could give me Sprite just now…and yeah…well….you get the idea.  Hang in there.  Hope it helps!!  celeste

      • December 17, 2016 at 1:38 am
      Bubbles
      Participant

      Hey, go for it!  I've always thrown up….no matter what.  No matter the procedure.  No matter the meds given to combat it.  Poor B!!!!  You could give me Sprite just now…and yeah…well….you get the idea.  Hang in there.  Hope it helps!!  celeste

      • December 17, 2016 at 1:38 am
      Bubbles
      Participant

      Hey, go for it!  I've always thrown up….no matter what.  No matter the procedure.  No matter the meds given to combat it.  Poor B!!!!  You could give me Sprite just now…and yeah…well….you get the idea.  Hang in there.  Hope it helps!!  celeste

      • December 17, 2016 at 3:18 am
      jennunicorn
      Participant

      Give CBD a try, if I ever need to I would try it in a heartbeat. I am also a person who throws up easily and hate doing it! Most anti-nausea meds don't work on me. CBD will not make you high, it has no hallucinogenic effects, it's strickly used for medical purposes. I have CBD oil that my dad gave me (he's big into the cannabis world) but I haven't had to use it yet.. I'd rather have capsules.. the oil looks pretty gross, hah. Edibles make me nauseous (cannabis put in food, like brownies) so, although it's easier not to smoke, I will warn that edibles could make you nauseous. But, that would also include THC and you'd get the high feeling from it. So, go for the CBD, let me know how it works for the nausea.

      • December 17, 2016 at 3:18 am
      jennunicorn
      Participant

      Give CBD a try, if I ever need to I would try it in a heartbeat. I am also a person who throws up easily and hate doing it! Most anti-nausea meds don't work on me. CBD will not make you high, it has no hallucinogenic effects, it's strickly used for medical purposes. I have CBD oil that my dad gave me (he's big into the cannabis world) but I haven't had to use it yet.. I'd rather have capsules.. the oil looks pretty gross, hah. Edibles make me nauseous (cannabis put in food, like brownies) so, although it's easier not to smoke, I will warn that edibles could make you nauseous. But, that would also include THC and you'd get the high feeling from it. So, go for the CBD, let me know how it works for the nausea.

      • December 17, 2016 at 3:18 am
      jennunicorn
      Participant

      Give CBD a try, if I ever need to I would try it in a heartbeat. I am also a person who throws up easily and hate doing it! Most anti-nausea meds don't work on me. CBD will not make you high, it has no hallucinogenic effects, it's strickly used for medical purposes. I have CBD oil that my dad gave me (he's big into the cannabis world) but I haven't had to use it yet.. I'd rather have capsules.. the oil looks pretty gross, hah. Edibles make me nauseous (cannabis put in food, like brownies) so, although it's easier not to smoke, I will warn that edibles could make you nauseous. But, that would also include THC and you'd get the high feeling from it. So, go for the CBD, let me know how it works for the nausea.

      • December 17, 2016 at 6:24 am
      _Paul_
      Participant

      God Celeste, I don't envy you. And of all things you are a nurse! I hope you are immune to sympathetic barfing. So I did what you all said (thanks Casitas and Jenny) and bought some CBD capsules and some drops too. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow in place of taking my morning ondansetron and I will keep you all posted.

      – Paul

      • December 17, 2016 at 6:24 am
      _Paul_
      Participant

      God Celeste, I don't envy you. And of all things you are a nurse! I hope you are immune to sympathetic barfing. So I did what you all said (thanks Casitas and Jenny) and bought some CBD capsules and some drops too. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow in place of taking my morning ondansetron and I will keep you all posted.

      – Paul

      • December 17, 2016 at 6:24 am
      _Paul_
      Participant

      God Celeste, I don't envy you. And of all things you are a nurse! I hope you are immune to sympathetic barfing. So I did what you all said (thanks Casitas and Jenny) and bought some CBD capsules and some drops too. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow in place of taking my morning ondansetron and I will keep you all posted.

      – Paul

      • December 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
      Linny
      Participant

      Paul,

      Look into the Relief Band. I use it for motion sickness but there's a version of it that's also available for cancer paitients undergoing treatment. I can only speak for the motion sickess version and can tell you that it works very well.

      http://www.reliefband.com/medical-professionals/

        • December 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm
        casagrayson
        Participant

        And for mild nausea, I've found that eating crystallized ginger really helps!  It's often found in the bulk buying area of large grocery stores.

         

        • December 18, 2016 at 3:50 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Thanks Susan,

        I am going to try that too.

        • December 18, 2016 at 3:50 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Thanks Susan,

        I am going to try that too.

        • December 18, 2016 at 3:50 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Thanks Susan,

        I am going to try that too.

        • December 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm
        casagrayson
        Participant

        And for mild nausea, I've found that eating crystallized ginger really helps!  It's often found in the bulk buying area of large grocery stores.

         

        • December 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm
        casagrayson
        Participant

        And for mild nausea, I've found that eating crystallized ginger really helps!  It's often found in the bulk buying area of large grocery stores.

         

        • December 18, 2016 at 3:49 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Linny, Do they have a version for chemo? The link looks like its for chemo, but when I go to the purchase page it asks me if I want it for motion sickness or morning sickness, but not chemo induced nausea.

        Thank you! – Paul

        • December 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm
        Linny
        Participant

        The principle behind all of them is the same: they emit a pulse on your wrist that blocks the nausea signal between the brain and the stomach. You can vary the strength of that pulse, which makes it really handy. 

        The product started out as something to relieve chemo-induced nausea. That's what got me interested in it: I figured if it can help chemo patients, it can hep me with motion sickness. I only know of the band for motion sickness and it works well. I loaned it to my sister to deal with post-surgical nausea and saw first hand how fast it worked. She hadn't set the pulse strong enough and was on her way to the toilet to throw up. As she was kneeling, I grabbed her wrist, cranked it up and within the next second she gave me a WTH look, got up and thanked me. I also loaned it to a neighbor to use for chemo nausea and he claimed it helped him as well. So — I'd give the motion sickness one a try, if you're so inclined.

        It can't hurt to try it. And, it won't interfere with any other drugs you may have to take.

        • December 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm
        Linny
        Participant

        The principle behind all of them is the same: they emit a pulse on your wrist that blocks the nausea signal between the brain and the stomach. You can vary the strength of that pulse, which makes it really handy. 

        The product started out as something to relieve chemo-induced nausea. That's what got me interested in it: I figured if it can help chemo patients, it can hep me with motion sickness. I only know of the band for motion sickness and it works well. I loaned it to my sister to deal with post-surgical nausea and saw first hand how fast it worked. She hadn't set the pulse strong enough and was on her way to the toilet to throw up. As she was kneeling, I grabbed her wrist, cranked it up and within the next second she gave me a WTH look, got up and thanked me. I also loaned it to a neighbor to use for chemo nausea and he claimed it helped him as well. So — I'd give the motion sickness one a try, if you're so inclined.

        It can't hurt to try it. And, it won't interfere with any other drugs you may have to take.

        • December 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Just placed me order on Amazon. Thanks again Linny!

        • December 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Just placed me order on Amazon. Thanks again Linny!

        • December 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Just placed me order on Amazon. Thanks again Linny!

        • December 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm
        Linny
        Participant

        The principle behind all of them is the same: they emit a pulse on your wrist that blocks the nausea signal between the brain and the stomach. You can vary the strength of that pulse, which makes it really handy. 

        The product started out as something to relieve chemo-induced nausea. That's what got me interested in it: I figured if it can help chemo patients, it can hep me with motion sickness. I only know of the band for motion sickness and it works well. I loaned it to my sister to deal with post-surgical nausea and saw first hand how fast it worked. She hadn't set the pulse strong enough and was on her way to the toilet to throw up. As she was kneeling, I grabbed her wrist, cranked it up and within the next second she gave me a WTH look, got up and thanked me. I also loaned it to a neighbor to use for chemo nausea and he claimed it helped him as well. So — I'd give the motion sickness one a try, if you're so inclined.

        It can't hurt to try it. And, it won't interfere with any other drugs you may have to take.

        • December 18, 2016 at 3:49 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Linny, Do they have a version for chemo? The link looks like its for chemo, but when I go to the purchase page it asks me if I want it for motion sickness or morning sickness, but not chemo induced nausea.

        Thank you! – Paul

        • December 18, 2016 at 3:49 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Linny, Do they have a version for chemo? The link looks like its for chemo, but when I go to the purchase page it asks me if I want it for motion sickness or morning sickness, but not chemo induced nausea.

        Thank you! – Paul

      • December 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
      Linny
      Participant

      Paul,

      Look into the Relief Band. I use it for motion sickness but there's a version of it that's also available for cancer paitients undergoing treatment. I can only speak for the motion sickess version and can tell you that it works very well.

      http://www.reliefband.com/medical-professionals/

      • December 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
      Linny
      Participant

      Paul,

      Look into the Relief Band. I use it for motion sickness but there's a version of it that's also available for cancer paitients undergoing treatment. I can only speak for the motion sickess version and can tell you that it works very well.

      http://www.reliefband.com/medical-professionals/

      • December 18, 2016 at 3:53 am
      _Paul_
      Participant

      So I tried the CBD capsules this morning. I took one, waited an hour, and couldn't feel anything. So I took another and about an hour later I started to feel the effect. But it didn't help my pain, and seemed to have the opposite effect for nausea. I felt bloated for about 3 or 4 hours and it was quite uncomfortable. It did seem to increase my appetite. Each cap was 25mg of CBD and 2.5mg of THC.

      But I'm glad that I at least tried it first.

        • December 18, 2016 at 4:25 am
        Casitas1
        Participant
        Hey Paul, glad you tryed CBD. If you can keep at one pill for a few days and dose up one pill every few days. Your body has to build up tolerance. Take it slowly also try rubbing it on any subqs you may have. I had same dose as you when I started took a week but tolerated well. Takes a little time to kick in. Best, Paul
        • December 18, 2016 at 4:31 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Ah, maybe I overdid it. Thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try and see how it goes.

        • December 18, 2016 at 4:31 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Ah, maybe I overdid it. Thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try and see how it goes.

        • December 18, 2016 at 4:31 am
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Ah, maybe I overdid it. Thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try and see how it goes.

        • December 18, 2016 at 4:25 am
        Casitas1
        Participant
        Hey Paul, glad you tryed CBD. If you can keep at one pill for a few days and dose up one pill every few days. Your body has to build up tolerance. Take it slowly also try rubbing it on any subqs you may have. I had same dose as you when I started took a week but tolerated well. Takes a little time to kick in. Best, Paul
        • December 18, 2016 at 4:25 am
        Casitas1
        Participant
        Hey Paul, glad you tryed CBD. If you can keep at one pill for a few days and dose up one pill every few days. Your body has to build up tolerance. Take it slowly also try rubbing it on any subqs you may have. I had same dose as you when I started took a week but tolerated well. Takes a little time to kick in. Best, Paul
      • December 18, 2016 at 3:53 am
      _Paul_
      Participant

      So I tried the CBD capsules this morning. I took one, waited an hour, and couldn't feel anything. So I took another and about an hour later I started to feel the effect. But it didn't help my pain, and seemed to have the opposite effect for nausea. I felt bloated for about 3 or 4 hours and it was quite uncomfortable. It did seem to increase my appetite. Each cap was 25mg of CBD and 2.5mg of THC.

      But I'm glad that I at least tried it first.

      • December 18, 2016 at 3:53 am
      _Paul_
      Participant

      So I tried the CBD capsules this morning. I took one, waited an hour, and couldn't feel anything. So I took another and about an hour later I started to feel the effect. But it didn't help my pain, and seemed to have the opposite effect for nausea. I felt bloated for about 3 or 4 hours and it was quite uncomfortable. It did seem to increase my appetite. Each cap was 25mg of CBD and 2.5mg of THC.

      But I'm glad that I at least tried it first.

      • December 18, 2016 at 5:28 pm
      casagrayson
      Participant

      Paul, is the Zofran (Ondansetron) the orally disintegrating tablets?  I found that having them dissolve into the bloodstream vs. taking the oral tablets was better; they worked much faster and since they didn't hit the stomach my nausea wasn't aggravated by the meds!

       

      • December 18, 2016 at 5:28 pm
      casagrayson
      Participant

      Paul, is the Zofran (Ondansetron) the orally disintegrating tablets?  I found that having them dissolve into the bloodstream vs. taking the oral tablets was better; they worked much faster and since they didn't hit the stomach my nausea wasn't aggravated by the meds!

       

        • December 18, 2016 at 5:53 pm
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Yes, those are the ones. Right now I am taking the 4mg orally dissolving ones. But my care team said they would have me on three different types of anti-nausea meds starting Tuesday. But even with all those meds they said I will still be throwing up. Since I will be on an IV, maybe some of the meds will be delivered that way. I am scheduled to go to "chemo class" tomorrow, so hopefullyI will have a better understanding after that.

        – Paul

        • December 18, 2016 at 5:53 pm
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Yes, those are the ones. Right now I am taking the 4mg orally dissolving ones. But my care team said they would have me on three different types of anti-nausea meds starting Tuesday. But even with all those meds they said I will still be throwing up. Since I will be on an IV, maybe some of the meds will be delivered that way. I am scheduled to go to "chemo class" tomorrow, so hopefullyI will have a better understanding after that.

        – Paul

        • December 18, 2016 at 5:53 pm
        _Paul_
        Participant

        Yes, those are the ones. Right now I am taking the 4mg orally dissolving ones. But my care team said they would have me on three different types of anti-nausea meds starting Tuesday. But even with all those meds they said I will still be throwing up. Since I will be on an IV, maybe some of the meds will be delivered that way. I am scheduled to go to "chemo class" tomorrow, so hopefullyI will have a better understanding after that.

        – Paul

      • December 18, 2016 at 5:28 pm
      casagrayson
      Participant

      Paul, is the Zofran (Ondansetron) the orally disintegrating tablets?  I found that having them dissolve into the bloodstream vs. taking the oral tablets was better; they worked much faster and since they didn't hit the stomach my nausea wasn't aggravated by the meds!

       

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