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?Your Experience on Pembrolizumab treatment?

Forums General Melanoma Community ?Your Experience on Pembrolizumab treatment?

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    AnitaLoree
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      Would really appreciate hearing your treatment experiences on pembro/Keytruda.  What should we watch out for?  Husband due to start infusions next week with Kaiser general oncology, NOT @ melanoma specialty ctr :-((.  Worried that he will not get: smart care, knowledgeable providers, prompt, appropriate care for side effects. Noted posting for "[email protected]" and will contact plus thoroughly read complete pharmacological info.

      Bcs husband's mel cervical spine (C1-3) location so rare have not posted in long time but have monitored your posts which have been so very informative and helpful refs. 

      Hx: Resection surgery, partial, 10/28/13. Husband has unk origin vs primary extra medullary intradural mass anterior to cord @ mid C2 (13x7x4mm) with contiguous mass in the ventral cord @ mid C2, con't unchanged from MRIs post focus beam radiation 02/14. Unk if tumor grew after surgery bcs pre radiation MRI not done.  PETs neg for addt'l tumor sites (he is SO lucky).  Since tumor has been stable, plus they don't know what to do, Kaiser counsels "Wait & See" (!!! like for what?).  Got ref to UCSF mel ctr and could enter ipi/pembro/IL-2 trial.  Worried about ipi as so many have posted that ipi enlarged tumors before shrinking/disappearing.  No room for enlargement here and any more damage would be permanent.  Already permanent tingling numbness hands, feet, no temperature sensitivity left side.

      With the early FDA apprv'l Pembro, Kaiser can give & will per our request. It will not be necessary to survive ipi 1st.  Would like to go to UCSF for mel mgt but don't have open period to change plans until end of yr.  Too long a wait.

      Have him taking turmeric (curcumin+piperine)/Jarrow formula – @ Whole Foods;  3x/d glass Japanese green tea, Sencha/Macha highest in EGCGs, available Costco; no inflammatory foods, hi glycemic index foods; mostly alkaline foods, kale smoothie every day, Vit D3 1000 IU daily; safe fish (use Monterey Bay Aquarium guide app); organic fresh, raw, veggies, sprouted grains, no processed stuff.  Really not huge difference from previous eating pattern.  Just have dropped the wine, beer, desserts, muffns and some of the grains that are more acidic.  Did this help keep his tumor in check???  Feel good about being able to do something that has quite a bit of good studies and data to support helpfulness of wholistic approach!

       

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        arthurjedi007
        Participant

          As you probably know the permanent tingling numbness to hands and feet is probably an indication of damage to the central nervous system of the spine probably the spinal cord. Very serious situation. I know cause that's what I have to deal with although my tingling and spasms come and go so not permanent yet. Also mine pretty much disappeared when I was on the taf/mek combo pills. Now that I've been on pembro since May 21st and especially now that I'm getting radiation again to the spine they are getting less often again.  My first known tumor was in the t10 although the first pet scan showed more. Currently I'm going through radiation to the t12 and l2. So I assume you also know he needs to be careful when he moves. Walking is great I was told. I just walk slow though cause any faster causes my back to hurt. Also be careful to get up properly, do not twist, turn or lift. Basically I can only lift about 2 pounds but that's cause of the spinal cord damage. But make sure to walk often. It is very good for the circulation and much needed. Couple miles or hours a day is enough just do it every day and break it up during the day. At least that is my opinion. But don't overexert just to get it in.

          As far as the nutrition. Absolutely. Exactly what he needs to feed his body to fight this stupid disease. In my opinion anyway.

          As far as PD1 yes it can cause the tumors to swell just like ipi. If you choose to do it make sure you get a scan before the 5th dose. This should be soon enough to prove if the pd1 pathway is working. I'm not sure how that swelling will affect his spine. For me the tumors are in the bone and some include soft tissue involvment. Yes last February they said if that t10 tumor grew a hairs breath in a certain direction I would be paralyzed. But that was from the disease not the ipi that I had completed. They also said all that twist, turn, lift stuff and I would be paralyzed. Anyone else with that much spinal cord damage all at once would already be paralyzed. 2nd radiation to the t10 shrank the soft tissue involvment enough so that didn't happen thank God.

          So yes be very very careful. Wait and see is never a good option in my opinion but in this case I can see why the doc is saying it if the only treatment choice is immunotherapy. He basically needs a treatment that does not cause swelling otherwise he risks paralysis.

          I assume he is BRAF negative? If not maybe the taf/mek combo would be better. It is my understanding they do not cause swelling.

          Also I assume he is already on a bone strengthener like zometa or xgeva. If not he needs to be on at least xgeva immediately and get it every 4 to 5 weeks. zometa I think some have said is every 3 months but I only did it once cause of a bad reaction to it. What these do is strengthen the bone and can even rebuild it I've heard others say.

          Dunno if any of that helps. Just my thoughts and experience so far. Good luck to you folks.

          Artie

           

           

            AnitaLoree
            Participant

              Thx Artie.  Your comments/advice very helpful. Yes BRAF neg and no, never tho't about bone strengthener and will look into it.  Did not know PD-1 caused initial swelling; not noted in Merck Pembro literature.  Will talk w doc.  Not sure what other treatment plan besides the radiation he had will help him.  He was sent home on Hospice to die in 6 mo after rocky 4 wk post op ICU course Oct '13.  We believed there was hope and we've researched/lobbied for everything he's gotten from Kaiser so far—@ 11 mo and counting.  So hope PD-1 is the answer for you. Keeping your + progress in our prayers.  A.L.

              AnitaLoree
              Participant

                Thx Artie.  Your comments/advice very helpful. Yes BRAF neg and no, never tho't about bone strengthener and will look into it.  Did not know PD-1 caused initial swelling; not noted in Merck Pembro literature.  Will talk w doc.  Not sure what other treatment plan besides the radiation he had will help him.  He was sent home on Hospice to die in 6 mo after rocky 4 wk post op ICU course Oct '13.  We believed there was hope and we've researched/lobbied for everything he's gotten from Kaiser so far—@ 11 mo and counting.  So hope PD-1 is the answer for you. Keeping your + progress in our prayers.  A.L.

                AnitaLoree
                Participant

                  Thx Artie.  Your comments/advice very helpful. Yes BRAF neg and no, never tho't about bone strengthener and will look into it.  Did not know PD-1 caused initial swelling; not noted in Merck Pembro literature.  Will talk w doc.  Not sure what other treatment plan besides the radiation he had will help him.  He was sent home on Hospice to die in 6 mo after rocky 4 wk post op ICU course Oct '13.  We believed there was hope and we've researched/lobbied for everything he's gotten from Kaiser so far—@ 11 mo and counting.  So hope PD-1 is the answer for you. Keeping your + progress in our prayers.  A.L.

                arthurjedi007
                Participant

                  As you probably know the permanent tingling numbness to hands and feet is probably an indication of damage to the central nervous system of the spine probably the spinal cord. Very serious situation. I know cause that's what I have to deal with although my tingling and spasms come and go so not permanent yet. Also mine pretty much disappeared when I was on the taf/mek combo pills. Now that I've been on pembro since May 21st and especially now that I'm getting radiation again to the spine they are getting less often again.  My first known tumor was in the t10 although the first pet scan showed more. Currently I'm going through radiation to the t12 and l2. So I assume you also know he needs to be careful when he moves. Walking is great I was told. I just walk slow though cause any faster causes my back to hurt. Also be careful to get up properly, do not twist, turn or lift. Basically I can only lift about 2 pounds but that's cause of the spinal cord damage. But make sure to walk often. It is very good for the circulation and much needed. Couple miles or hours a day is enough just do it every day and break it up during the day. At least that is my opinion. But don't overexert just to get it in.

                  As far as the nutrition. Absolutely. Exactly what he needs to feed his body to fight this stupid disease. In my opinion anyway.

                  As far as PD1 yes it can cause the tumors to swell just like ipi. If you choose to do it make sure you get a scan before the 5th dose. This should be soon enough to prove if the pd1 pathway is working. I'm not sure how that swelling will affect his spine. For me the tumors are in the bone and some include soft tissue involvment. Yes last February they said if that t10 tumor grew a hairs breath in a certain direction I would be paralyzed. But that was from the disease not the ipi that I had completed. They also said all that twist, turn, lift stuff and I would be paralyzed. Anyone else with that much spinal cord damage all at once would already be paralyzed. 2nd radiation to the t10 shrank the soft tissue involvment enough so that didn't happen thank God.

                  So yes be very very careful. Wait and see is never a good option in my opinion but in this case I can see why the doc is saying it if the only treatment choice is immunotherapy. He basically needs a treatment that does not cause swelling otherwise he risks paralysis.

                  I assume he is BRAF negative? If not maybe the taf/mek combo would be better. It is my understanding they do not cause swelling.

                  Also I assume he is already on a bone strengthener like zometa or xgeva. If not he needs to be on at least xgeva immediately and get it every 4 to 5 weeks. zometa I think some have said is every 3 months but I only did it once cause of a bad reaction to it. What these do is strengthen the bone and can even rebuild it I've heard others say.

                  Dunno if any of that helps. Just my thoughts and experience so far. Good luck to you folks.

                  Artie

                   

                   

                  arthurjedi007
                  Participant

                    As you probably know the permanent tingling numbness to hands and feet is probably an indication of damage to the central nervous system of the spine probably the spinal cord. Very serious situation. I know cause that's what I have to deal with although my tingling and spasms come and go so not permanent yet. Also mine pretty much disappeared when I was on the taf/mek combo pills. Now that I've been on pembro since May 21st and especially now that I'm getting radiation again to the spine they are getting less often again.  My first known tumor was in the t10 although the first pet scan showed more. Currently I'm going through radiation to the t12 and l2. So I assume you also know he needs to be careful when he moves. Walking is great I was told. I just walk slow though cause any faster causes my back to hurt. Also be careful to get up properly, do not twist, turn or lift. Basically I can only lift about 2 pounds but that's cause of the spinal cord damage. But make sure to walk often. It is very good for the circulation and much needed. Couple miles or hours a day is enough just do it every day and break it up during the day. At least that is my opinion. But don't overexert just to get it in.

                    As far as the nutrition. Absolutely. Exactly what he needs to feed his body to fight this stupid disease. In my opinion anyway.

                    As far as PD1 yes it can cause the tumors to swell just like ipi. If you choose to do it make sure you get a scan before the 5th dose. This should be soon enough to prove if the pd1 pathway is working. I'm not sure how that swelling will affect his spine. For me the tumors are in the bone and some include soft tissue involvment. Yes last February they said if that t10 tumor grew a hairs breath in a certain direction I would be paralyzed. But that was from the disease not the ipi that I had completed. They also said all that twist, turn, lift stuff and I would be paralyzed. Anyone else with that much spinal cord damage all at once would already be paralyzed. 2nd radiation to the t10 shrank the soft tissue involvment enough so that didn't happen thank God.

                    So yes be very very careful. Wait and see is never a good option in my opinion but in this case I can see why the doc is saying it if the only treatment choice is immunotherapy. He basically needs a treatment that does not cause swelling otherwise he risks paralysis.

                    I assume he is BRAF negative? If not maybe the taf/mek combo would be better. It is my understanding they do not cause swelling.

                    Also I assume he is already on a bone strengthener like zometa or xgeva. If not he needs to be on at least xgeva immediately and get it every 4 to 5 weeks. zometa I think some have said is every 3 months but I only did it once cause of a bad reaction to it. What these do is strengthen the bone and can even rebuild it I've heard others say.

                    Dunno if any of that helps. Just my thoughts and experience so far. Good luck to you folks.

                    Artie

                     

                     

                    JustMeInCA
                    Participant

                      I'd definitely make an appointment to at least get a second opinion at UCSF. That's where I've been taking my father, and the doctors are fantastic. That said, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't hesitate to tell you to just start the Keytruda at Kaiser because from what they told us at UCSF, the side effects are very mild for most people, so most people would be fine on it with a regular oncologist; however, my father's tumors are on his legs, lungs and hipbone, not near the spine — in your shoes I'm sure I would also feel much safer at a melanoma clinic.

                      You are very lucky that the doctors at Kaiser are willing to forego the Ipi requirement because UCSF is requiring my dad to do the FDA-required two rounds before starting Keytruda. He was scheduled for one round of Ipi before starting Pembro, and then the FDA approval came in on the Thursday before his Monday infusion. Good news for the melanoma world, bad news for us.

                      Also, check to see if your insurance might cover you anyway at UCSF. I have Kaiser and know that they'll cover cardio surgeries at one of our local speciality hospitals with a referral. You might be able to make the argument that your husband needs a melanoma specialist. And you wouldn't have to do the clinical trial there; you could do Keytruda.

                      Hang in there. I know what a rollercoaster ride this is.

                        AnitaLoree
                        Participant

                          Thx Just Me for your advice and info.  We would love to be @ UCSF for tx/mg't.  Did have refs to UCSF, Dr Doud, Reasearch Chief, w 2 interviews.  Planning to start trial there, ipi/pembro/IL-2 arms, when Keytruda gets FDA apprv'l even earlier than expected. Kaiser then able to provide so won't send husband elsewhere. They will outsource care if valid and they can't provide. We can change providers at our next open period which is end of year; too long to wait to get started. Pending how it goes w Keytruda course mg't per Kaiser, we may want to change.  So glad for you and your Dad that he's getting great care.  What peace of mind that treatment is going as best as possible.  Best wishes to a final diagnosis of NED!  A.L.

                          AnitaLoree
                          Participant

                            Thx Just Me for your advice and info.  We would love to be @ UCSF for tx/mg't.  Did have refs to UCSF, Dr Doud, Reasearch Chief, w 2 interviews.  Planning to start trial there, ipi/pembro/IL-2 arms, when Keytruda gets FDA apprv'l even earlier than expected. Kaiser then able to provide so won't send husband elsewhere. They will outsource care if valid and they can't provide. We can change providers at our next open period which is end of year; too long to wait to get started. Pending how it goes w Keytruda course mg't per Kaiser, we may want to change.  So glad for you and your Dad that he's getting great care.  What peace of mind that treatment is going as best as possible.  Best wishes to a final diagnosis of NED!  A.L.

                            JustMeInCA
                            Participant

                              Dr. Daud is my dad's doctor — he's wonderful. I think if he was planning to have your husband do the Ipi/Pembro route, then he'll be fine doing Keytruda at Kaiser. On a side note, I just got a UC teaching position, coming out of the CSU, so now I have to sign up for a health plan. Having seen the quality of care at UCSF, I'm seriously thinking to switch from Kaiser to UC Care, even though my monthly cost would be $100 rather than $40. I've been satisfied with Kaiser overall, but I'm realizing that as I get older and will likely need more specialized care, it might be time to switch. When my PCP at Kaiser tried to refer me to dermatology, they wanted to diagnose simply by photos! It was only Dad's melanoma diagnosis that finally got me in the door for an in-person full-body scan!

                              JustMeInCA
                              Participant

                                Dr. Daud is my dad's doctor — he's wonderful. I think if he was planning to have your husband do the Ipi/Pembro route, then he'll be fine doing Keytruda at Kaiser. On a side note, I just got a UC teaching position, coming out of the CSU, so now I have to sign up for a health plan. Having seen the quality of care at UCSF, I'm seriously thinking to switch from Kaiser to UC Care, even though my monthly cost would be $100 rather than $40. I've been satisfied with Kaiser overall, but I'm realizing that as I get older and will likely need more specialized care, it might be time to switch. When my PCP at Kaiser tried to refer me to dermatology, they wanted to diagnose simply by photos! It was only Dad's melanoma diagnosis that finally got me in the door for an in-person full-body scan!

                                kylez
                                Participant

                                  I understand you're not a melanoma patient but your Dad is? Either way UC Cares sounds like a great option for UC employees. Knowing what I know now I would go with a good PPO rather than an HMO, even without melanoma or any other current health issue, assuming I could afford it.

                                  kylez
                                  Participant

                                    I understand you're not a melanoma patient but your Dad is? Either way UC Cares sounds like a great option for UC employees. Knowing what I know now I would go with a good PPO rather than an HMO, even without melanoma or any other current health issue, assuming I could afford it.

                                    JustMeInCA
                                    Participant

                                      Yes, it's my 83-year-old dad. But since my mom passed away (unexpectedly and in her sleep, thank God) from cardiovascular disease and Dad had a sextuple bypass a few months later, I figure that between that and Dad's melanoma (the icky amelanotic nodular kind which also killed my uncle 25 years ago), I might as well start scheduling my heart surgery and melanoma treatments now. 🙂

                                      JustMeInCA
                                      Participant

                                        Yes, it's my 83-year-old dad. But since my mom passed away (unexpectedly and in her sleep, thank God) from cardiovascular disease and Dad had a sextuple bypass a few months later, I figure that between that and Dad's melanoma (the icky amelanotic nodular kind which also killed my uncle 25 years ago), I might as well start scheduling my heart surgery and melanoma treatments now. 🙂

                                        JustMeInCA
                                        Participant

                                          Yes, it's my 83-year-old dad. But since my mom passed away (unexpectedly and in her sleep, thank God) from cardiovascular disease and Dad had a sextuple bypass a few months later, I figure that between that and Dad's melanoma (the icky amelanotic nodular kind which also killed my uncle 25 years ago), I might as well start scheduling my heart surgery and melanoma treatments now. 🙂

                                          kylez
                                          Participant

                                            I understand you're not a melanoma patient but your Dad is? Either way UC Cares sounds like a great option for UC employees. Knowing what I know now I would go with a good PPO rather than an HMO, even without melanoma or any other current health issue, assuming I could afford it.

                                            AnitaLoree
                                            Participant

                                              Thx for encouragement. Apparently your Dad did not have any swelling of tumor on Pembro?  Hope this is true.  Glad to hear he has Dr Daud.  We felt my husband would be in excellent hands if treated by Dr Daud.  We are also thinking about switching to UCSF even if satisfactory infusion mg't with Keytruda per Kaiser as we have just moved into our 4th quarter century of life with plenty of kick left & the risk of recurrent cancer should be monitored/managed.  Sorry about your frustrating derm experience. Photos!–that was not quality care.  We're on Kaiser Sr Advantage coverage now and note they are watching the bottom line carefully and care/referrals seem cut back. ?Adjustments for ObamaCare costs? Mix of very good/less than on top of things docs. As you know, must strongly advocate for self all the time w Kaiser. If so far satisfactory Kaiser care and good health/no chronic conditions you could con't w Kaiser for less $/mo and switch at next open period if your health changed course.  Both of us have had excellent surgeries at Kaiser and out of area coverage. Congrats on the new teaching position. A.L.

                                              AnitaLoree
                                              Participant

                                                Thx for encouragement. Apparently your Dad did not have any swelling of tumor on Pembro?  Hope this is true.  Glad to hear he has Dr Daud.  We felt my husband would be in excellent hands if treated by Dr Daud.  We are also thinking about switching to UCSF even if satisfactory infusion mg't with Keytruda per Kaiser as we have just moved into our 4th quarter century of life with plenty of kick left & the risk of recurrent cancer should be monitored/managed.  Sorry about your frustrating derm experience. Photos!–that was not quality care.  We're on Kaiser Sr Advantage coverage now and note they are watching the bottom line carefully and care/referrals seem cut back. ?Adjustments for ObamaCare costs? Mix of very good/less than on top of things docs. As you know, must strongly advocate for self all the time w Kaiser. If so far satisfactory Kaiser care and good health/no chronic conditions you could con't w Kaiser for less $/mo and switch at next open period if your health changed course.  Both of us have had excellent surgeries at Kaiser and out of area coverage. Congrats on the new teaching position. A.L.

                                                JustMeInCA
                                                Participant

                                                  Dad hasn't started the Pembro/Keytruda yet. He was supposed to do one round of Ipi before moving into the EAP, but then the FDA approval came through three days before his first treatment and scuttled the original plan. So he did the first Ipi infusion and now has to do one more before starting Keytruda. And, yes, I'm thinking much like you that while I'm still (relatively) young — late 40's — and healthy, I might as well save $60/mo. and stick with Kaiser for awhile longer. It has just amazed me, going with Dad to many of his doctor's appointments after Mom died, how much time other doctors spend with their patients. My doctors at Kaiser usually have me in and out of there in ten minutes or less!

                                                  JustMeInCA
                                                  Participant

                                                    Dad hasn't started the Pembro/Keytruda yet. He was supposed to do one round of Ipi before moving into the EAP, but then the FDA approval came through three days before his first treatment and scuttled the original plan. So he did the first Ipi infusion and now has to do one more before starting Keytruda. And, yes, I'm thinking much like you that while I'm still (relatively) young — late 40's — and healthy, I might as well save $60/mo. and stick with Kaiser for awhile longer. It has just amazed me, going with Dad to many of his doctor's appointments after Mom died, how much time other doctors spend with their patients. My doctors at Kaiser usually have me in and out of there in ten minutes or less!

                                                    JustMeInCA
                                                    Participant

                                                      Dad hasn't started the Pembro/Keytruda yet. He was supposed to do one round of Ipi before moving into the EAP, but then the FDA approval came through three days before his first treatment and scuttled the original plan. So he did the first Ipi infusion and now has to do one more before starting Keytruda. And, yes, I'm thinking much like you that while I'm still (relatively) young — late 40's — and healthy, I might as well save $60/mo. and stick with Kaiser for awhile longer. It has just amazed me, going with Dad to many of his doctor's appointments after Mom died, how much time other doctors spend with their patients. My doctors at Kaiser usually have me in and out of there in ten minutes or less!

                                                      AnitaLoree
                                                      Participant

                                                        Thx for encouragement. Apparently your Dad did not have any swelling of tumor on Pembro?  Hope this is true.  Glad to hear he has Dr Daud.  We felt my husband would be in excellent hands if treated by Dr Daud.  We are also thinking about switching to UCSF even if satisfactory infusion mg't with Keytruda per Kaiser as we have just moved into our 4th quarter century of life with plenty of kick left & the risk of recurrent cancer should be monitored/managed.  Sorry about your frustrating derm experience. Photos!–that was not quality care.  We're on Kaiser Sr Advantage coverage now and note they are watching the bottom line carefully and care/referrals seem cut back. ?Adjustments for ObamaCare costs? Mix of very good/less than on top of things docs. As you know, must strongly advocate for self all the time w Kaiser. If so far satisfactory Kaiser care and good health/no chronic conditions you could con't w Kaiser for less $/mo and switch at next open period if your health changed course.  Both of us have had excellent surgeries at Kaiser and out of area coverage. Congrats on the new teaching position. A.L.

                                                        JustMeInCA
                                                        Participant

                                                          Dr. Daud is my dad's doctor — he's wonderful. I think if he was planning to have your husband do the Ipi/Pembro route, then he'll be fine doing Keytruda at Kaiser. On a side note, I just got a UC teaching position, coming out of the CSU, so now I have to sign up for a health plan. Having seen the quality of care at UCSF, I'm seriously thinking to switch from Kaiser to UC Care, even though my monthly cost would be $100 rather than $40. I've been satisfied with Kaiser overall, but I'm realizing that as I get older and will likely need more specialized care, it might be time to switch. When my PCP at Kaiser tried to refer me to dermatology, they wanted to diagnose simply by photos! It was only Dad's melanoma diagnosis that finally got me in the door for an in-person full-body scan!

                                                          kylez
                                                          Participant

                                                            Do you have the trial number, an identifier under which it can be found at the clinicaltrials.gov web site? 

                                                            kylez
                                                            Participant

                                                              Do you have the trial number, an identifier under which it can be found at the clinicaltrials.gov web site? 

                                                              kylez
                                                              Participant

                                                                Do you have the trial number, an identifier under which it can be found at the clinicaltrials.gov web site? 

                                                                AnitaLoree
                                                                Participant

                                                                  The trial husband would have gone on was listed on the trials being done at UCSF Helen Diller Ca Tx Ctr.  Dr Daud and another doc were in charge.  At the time about the 8th one down on the list. Sorry, not sure where my notes/log are rt now.  Google Helen Diller Ca Tx Ctr/clinical trials.  A.L.

                                                                  AnitaLoree
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    The trial husband would have gone on was listed on the trials being done at UCSF Helen Diller Ca Tx Ctr.  Dr Daud and another doc were in charge.  At the time about the 8th one down on the list. Sorry, not sure where my notes/log are rt now.  Google Helen Diller Ca Tx Ctr/clinical trials.  A.L.

                                                                    AnitaLoree
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      The trial husband would have gone on was listed on the trials being done at UCSF Helen Diller Ca Tx Ctr.  Dr Daud and another doc were in charge.  At the time about the 8th one down on the list. Sorry, not sure where my notes/log are rt now.  Google Helen Diller Ca Tx Ctr/clinical trials.  A.L.

                                                                      AnitaLoree
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        Thx Just Me for your advice and info.  We would love to be @ UCSF for tx/mg't.  Did have refs to UCSF, Dr Doud, Reasearch Chief, w 2 interviews.  Planning to start trial there, ipi/pembro/IL-2 arms, when Keytruda gets FDA apprv'l even earlier than expected. Kaiser then able to provide so won't send husband elsewhere. They will outsource care if valid and they can't provide. We can change providers at our next open period which is end of year; too long to wait to get started. Pending how it goes w Keytruda course mg't per Kaiser, we may want to change.  So glad for you and your Dad that he's getting great care.  What peace of mind that treatment is going as best as possible.  Best wishes to a final diagnosis of NED!  A.L.

                                                                      JustMeInCA
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        I'd definitely make an appointment to at least get a second opinion at UCSF. That's where I've been taking my father, and the doctors are fantastic. That said, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't hesitate to tell you to just start the Keytruda at Kaiser because from what they told us at UCSF, the side effects are very mild for most people, so most people would be fine on it with a regular oncologist; however, my father's tumors are on his legs, lungs and hipbone, not near the spine — in your shoes I'm sure I would also feel much safer at a melanoma clinic.

                                                                        You are very lucky that the doctors at Kaiser are willing to forego the Ipi requirement because UCSF is requiring my dad to do the FDA-required two rounds before starting Keytruda. He was scheduled for one round of Ipi before starting Pembro, and then the FDA approval came in on the Thursday before his Monday infusion. Good news for the melanoma world, bad news for us.

                                                                        Also, check to see if your insurance might cover you anyway at UCSF. I have Kaiser and know that they'll cover cardio surgeries at one of our local speciality hospitals with a referral. You might be able to make the argument that your husband needs a melanoma specialist. And you wouldn't have to do the clinical trial there; you could do Keytruda.

                                                                        Hang in there. I know what a rollercoaster ride this is.

                                                                        JustMeInCA
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          I'd definitely make an appointment to at least get a second opinion at UCSF. That's where I've been taking my father, and the doctors are fantastic. That said, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't hesitate to tell you to just start the Keytruda at Kaiser because from what they told us at UCSF, the side effects are very mild for most people, so most people would be fine on it with a regular oncologist; however, my father's tumors are on his legs, lungs and hipbone, not near the spine — in your shoes I'm sure I would also feel much safer at a melanoma clinic.

                                                                          You are very lucky that the doctors at Kaiser are willing to forego the Ipi requirement because UCSF is requiring my dad to do the FDA-required two rounds before starting Keytruda. He was scheduled for one round of Ipi before starting Pembro, and then the FDA approval came in on the Thursday before his Monday infusion. Good news for the melanoma world, bad news for us.

                                                                          Also, check to see if your insurance might cover you anyway at UCSF. I have Kaiser and know that they'll cover cardio surgeries at one of our local speciality hospitals with a referral. You might be able to make the argument that your husband needs a melanoma specialist. And you wouldn't have to do the clinical trial there; you could do Keytruda.

                                                                          Hang in there. I know what a rollercoaster ride this is.

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                                                                      The MRF Patient Forum is the oldest and largest online community of people affected by melanoma. It is designed to provide peer support and information to caregivers, patients, family and friends. There is no better place to discuss different parts of your journey with this cancer and find the friends and support resources to make that journey more bearable.

                                                                      The information on the forum is open and accessible to everyone. To add a new topic or to post a reply, you must be a registered user. Please note that you will be able to post both topics and replies anonymously even though you are logged in. All posts must abide by MRF posting policies.

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