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- May 30, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Scientists reverse stance on sun and cancer: Now they admit sunlight can prevent skin cancer
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032533_sun_exposure_skin_cancer.html#ixzz1Nrwxbjb9
I am a firm believer in this. The only way to know your vitamin D levels is to have them tested.
The best test is the "25-hydroxy" vitamin D test.
Best wishes,
Gene
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- May 30, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Gene,
The myth about more sun reducing skin cancer is horse poop and has been debunked hundreds if not thousands of times by established researchers for a number of reasons. The link you supplied does not provide any facts except to mention a university, no links, etc. Give us the FACTS.
Utmost is that Vit D is Vit D regardless of the source. NO SUN REQUIRED. Also, the amount of indirect sun needed for proper Vit D levels in healthy individuals is a very short time. Supplements of any type work great.
This really isn't the place to tell folks to get more sun for the Vit D level. If you are truely open minded then really research all the info about requirements for Vit D and methods of satisfying the need.
Jerry from Cape Cod
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- June 1, 2011 at 1:09 am
Most melanoma information sources cite sun exposure as “the cause” of melanoma. In fact, the American Cancer Society states: “We do not yet know exactly what causes melanoma skin cancer.” The ACS notes that prolonged excessive sun exposure is just one of the potential risk factors for the disease.
Other risk factors:
- Having many large or irregularly shaped moles
- A family history of melanoma
- Fair skin
- Weakened immune system
- Over the age of 50
- Smoking
Best wishes,
Gene
PS. I know for a fact that my melanoma was not caused from sun exposure, but in my opinion from the lack of getting adequate exposure to the best source of natural vitamin D, the Sun!
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- June 1, 2011 at 1:09 am
Most melanoma information sources cite sun exposure as “the cause” of melanoma. In fact, the American Cancer Society states: “We do not yet know exactly what causes melanoma skin cancer.” The ACS notes that prolonged excessive sun exposure is just one of the potential risk factors for the disease.
Other risk factors:
- Having many large or irregularly shaped moles
- A family history of melanoma
- Fair skin
- Weakened immune system
- Over the age of 50
- Smoking
Best wishes,
Gene
PS. I know for a fact that my melanoma was not caused from sun exposure, but in my opinion from the lack of getting adequate exposure to the best source of natural vitamin D, the Sun!
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- May 30, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Gene,
The myth about more sun reducing skin cancer is horse poop and has been debunked hundreds if not thousands of times by established researchers for a number of reasons. The link you supplied does not provide any facts except to mention a university, no links, etc. Give us the FACTS.
Utmost is that Vit D is Vit D regardless of the source. NO SUN REQUIRED. Also, the amount of indirect sun needed for proper Vit D levels in healthy individuals is a very short time. Supplements of any type work great.
This really isn't the place to tell folks to get more sun for the Vit D level. If you are truely open minded then really research all the info about requirements for Vit D and methods of satisfying the need.
Jerry from Cape Cod
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- May 30, 2011 at 10:24 pm
i would still suggest to take your vitamin D3 orally and minimize sun damage…that being said…i am on of the 10% with unknown primary…so hanging out with old sol was not my undoing
boots
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- May 30, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Hi Boots,
Just a bit of a misconception about the "unknown primary." It is very likely that you had a mole that had melanoma but your immune system attacked the mole and just like those of us with known primaries and clear margins and SNB's one or more cells spread through the blood stream. So the "unknown primary" can't discount sun related skin cancer.
Also many moles go through a life cycle and disappear with time. I've forgotten the term, but I'm sure someone will step in.
Jerry from Cape Cod
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- May 30, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Hi Boots,
Just a bit of a misconception about the "unknown primary." It is very likely that you had a mole that had melanoma but your immune system attacked the mole and just like those of us with known primaries and clear margins and SNB's one or more cells spread through the blood stream. So the "unknown primary" can't discount sun related skin cancer.
Also many moles go through a life cycle and disappear with time. I've forgotten the term, but I'm sure someone will step in.
Jerry from Cape Cod
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- May 31, 2011 at 1:28 am
Regression is the term. Happens all the time in normal moles, on occasion in melanoma lesions, and is the primary suspect in unknown primaries. It is not uncommon to die without any moles, or a great many less than you had when you were younger. I agree with Jerry, sun exposure is still the main culprit in melanoma and having an unknown primary changes nothing in regard to that.
Best wishes,
Janner
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- May 31, 2011 at 1:28 am
Regression is the term. Happens all the time in normal moles, on occasion in melanoma lesions, and is the primary suspect in unknown primaries. It is not uncommon to die without any moles, or a great many less than you had when you were younger. I agree with Jerry, sun exposure is still the main culprit in melanoma and having an unknown primary changes nothing in regard to that.
Best wishes,
Janner
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- May 30, 2011 at 10:24 pm
i would still suggest to take your vitamin D3 orally and minimize sun damage…that being said…i am on of the 10% with unknown primary…so hanging out with old sol was not my undoing
boots
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- May 31, 2011 at 9:55 am
The scientists quoted in these articles do NOT recommend getting more sun. The researchers recommend eating food with more vitamin D, such as tuna or other fish. It is really important to look at all the information, because it is easy to take one sentence (about getting Vitamin D from sun, for example) out of context. You need to go back to the original source material, not the secondary sources.
Please be careful.
ellen – dads daughter
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- June 1, 2011 at 4:09 pm
i have amelanotic melanoma…so there could have been a skin change that i wouldn't have noticed since there would be no pigmentation…i disagree that sun exposure is always a culprit since some melanomas first show up in the uro-genital/digestive tract where the sun don't shine…i would like to understand, though how docs are trying to link my brca 2 status with mel…i just don't see the connection…at any rate, being stupid by going out into the sun for long periods without protection for your skin is just asking for problems…
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- June 1, 2011 at 4:09 pm
i have amelanotic melanoma…so there could have been a skin change that i wouldn't have noticed since there would be no pigmentation…i disagree that sun exposure is always a culprit since some melanomas first show up in the uro-genital/digestive tract where the sun don't shine…i would like to understand, though how docs are trying to link my brca 2 status with mel…i just don't see the connection…at any rate, being stupid by going out into the sun for long periods without protection for your skin is just asking for problems…
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- May 31, 2011 at 9:55 am
The scientists quoted in these articles do NOT recommend getting more sun. The researchers recommend eating food with more vitamin D, such as tuna or other fish. It is really important to look at all the information, because it is easy to take one sentence (about getting Vitamin D from sun, for example) out of context. You need to go back to the original source material, not the secondary sources.
Please be careful.
ellen – dads daughter
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- March 26, 2012 at 11:37 am
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- March 26, 2012 at 11:37 am
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Medical Problems;
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- March 26, 2012 at 11:37 am
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Medical Problems;
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- April 18, 2012 at 11:14 am
Agreed. A good test for vitamin D level seems essential to try to deal with the controversy. Most people are looking for a silver bullet. They're also looking for a lead one. The sun.
But it's never one thing or the othe. Cognitive dissonance causes so much discomfort to so many that we look for easy choices. Either one extreme or the other.
Is the sun, ipso facto, "bad"? Of course not. Extremes are.
The dermatologist who excised my latest melanoma (2X the last 2 1/2 weeks), quotes a study of lifeguards who she says did not use sunscreen. Many of them had very LOW vitamin D levels! While others with little exposure to sun had sometimes "excessively high levels". In part for this reason, she promotes vitamin D supplements. I'm not a big fan of supplements, prefer natural means through diet. And through sun. But it's worth testing ourselves to try to find out. ("Try", because I have no idea how valid these tests are.)
The highly rated oncologist I saw after the surgeries puts it this way: The relation between sun exposure and melanoma is "very complex". So how do we imagine we can pin melanoma on one thing or the other?
In other words, get tested. Moderation in sun exposure. But get it. And stop using the sun as favorite whipping boy in a futile attempt to neutralize fear of melanoma.
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- April 18, 2012 at 11:14 am
Agreed. A good test for vitamin D level seems essential to try to deal with the controversy. Most people are looking for a silver bullet. They're also looking for a lead one. The sun.
But it's never one thing or the othe. Cognitive dissonance causes so much discomfort to so many that we look for easy choices. Either one extreme or the other.
Is the sun, ipso facto, "bad"? Of course not. Extremes are.
The dermatologist who excised my latest melanoma (2X the last 2 1/2 weeks), quotes a study of lifeguards who she says did not use sunscreen. Many of them had very LOW vitamin D levels! While others with little exposure to sun had sometimes "excessively high levels". In part for this reason, she promotes vitamin D supplements. I'm not a big fan of supplements, prefer natural means through diet. And through sun. But it's worth testing ourselves to try to find out. ("Try", because I have no idea how valid these tests are.)
The highly rated oncologist I saw after the surgeries puts it this way: The relation between sun exposure and melanoma is "very complex". So how do we imagine we can pin melanoma on one thing or the other?
In other words, get tested. Moderation in sun exposure. But get it. And stop using the sun as favorite whipping boy in a futile attempt to neutralize fear of melanoma.
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- April 18, 2012 at 11:14 am
Agreed. A good test for vitamin D level seems essential to try to deal with the controversy. Most people are looking for a silver bullet. They're also looking for a lead one. The sun.
But it's never one thing or the othe. Cognitive dissonance causes so much discomfort to so many that we look for easy choices. Either one extreme or the other.
Is the sun, ipso facto, "bad"? Of course not. Extremes are.
The dermatologist who excised my latest melanoma (2X the last 2 1/2 weeks), quotes a study of lifeguards who she says did not use sunscreen. Many of them had very LOW vitamin D levels! While others with little exposure to sun had sometimes "excessively high levels". In part for this reason, she promotes vitamin D supplements. I'm not a big fan of supplements, prefer natural means through diet. And through sun. But it's worth testing ourselves to try to find out. ("Try", because I have no idea how valid these tests are.)
The highly rated oncologist I saw after the surgeries puts it this way: The relation between sun exposure and melanoma is "very complex". So how do we imagine we can pin melanoma on one thing or the other?
In other words, get tested. Moderation in sun exposure. But get it. And stop using the sun as favorite whipping boy in a futile attempt to neutralize fear of melanoma.
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