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- October 27, 2016 at 4:05 am
I was recently diagnosed stage 4 unknown primary source. Tumor removed right axilla 13cm and about 20 lymph nodes. Surgeon got 99% but had to leave some that was wrapped around artery in my arm. Onc wants to do radiation but melanoma specialist wants to start keytruda right away and bypass radiation so that keytruda can work. Any thoughts on radiation? I want to get going with keytruda.
Thanks,
Linda
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- October 27, 2016 at 11:29 am
Hi.
Big area for research
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=pembrolizumab+radiation+melanoma&Search=Search
if you go to advanced search and in put your country/ state you could see what is going in your area.
trial 8 looks interesting….
some of the trials have criteria that includes prior dosing with keytruda. Gut feeling is follow melanoma expert advice- if Keytruda works for you might not even need radio.
Good Luck
Deb
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- October 27, 2016 at 11:29 am
Hi.
Big area for research
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=pembrolizumab+radiation+melanoma&Search=Search
if you go to advanced search and in put your country/ state you could see what is going in your area.
trial 8 looks interesting….
some of the trials have criteria that includes prior dosing with keytruda. Gut feeling is follow melanoma expert advice- if Keytruda works for you might not even need radio.
Good Luck
Deb
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- October 27, 2016 at 11:29 am
Hi.
Big area for research
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=pembrolizumab+radiation+melanoma&Search=Search
if you go to advanced search and in put your country/ state you could see what is going in your area.
trial 8 looks interesting….
some of the trials have criteria that includes prior dosing with keytruda. Gut feeling is follow melanoma expert advice- if Keytruda works for you might not even need radio.
Good Luck
Deb
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- October 27, 2016 at 3:03 pm
Hi Linda,
Sorry that you are dealing with all this. Keytruda certainly sounds like a good treatment plan for you. And while radiation alone has not been found particularly beneficial for melanoma…when it is COMBINED with immunotherapy (like keytruda) the combination can provide results better than either treatment alone. Here is a post containing a new article discussing that very thing, with additional studies linked within:
Occasionally, radiation is not an option because of the proximity to vital organs and vessles that cannot tolerate the effects of radiation. I don't know if that is a pertinent consideration in your case….but I would certainly talk to my melanoma specialist about the possibility of doing both!
I wish you my best. Celeste
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- October 27, 2016 at 3:03 pm
Hi Linda,
Sorry that you are dealing with all this. Keytruda certainly sounds like a good treatment plan for you. And while radiation alone has not been found particularly beneficial for melanoma…when it is COMBINED with immunotherapy (like keytruda) the combination can provide results better than either treatment alone. Here is a post containing a new article discussing that very thing, with additional studies linked within:
Occasionally, radiation is not an option because of the proximity to vital organs and vessles that cannot tolerate the effects of radiation. I don't know if that is a pertinent consideration in your case….but I would certainly talk to my melanoma specialist about the possibility of doing both!
I wish you my best. Celeste
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- October 27, 2016 at 3:03 pm
Hi Linda,
Sorry that you are dealing with all this. Keytruda certainly sounds like a good treatment plan for you. And while radiation alone has not been found particularly beneficial for melanoma…when it is COMBINED with immunotherapy (like keytruda) the combination can provide results better than either treatment alone. Here is a post containing a new article discussing that very thing, with additional studies linked within:
Occasionally, radiation is not an option because of the proximity to vital organs and vessles that cannot tolerate the effects of radiation. I don't know if that is a pertinent consideration in your case….but I would certainly talk to my melanoma specialist about the possibility of doing both!
I wish you my best. Celeste
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- October 27, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Hi Linda,
Sorry to hear you have to deal with this. I do have a bit of experience here. Been through two rounds of radiation, to destroy large sub-q tumors. As I've mentioned here before, there is no action without a reaction. Short version is two out of three large 8-10CM tumors were completely eliminated with a five-dose, painless radiation treatment. When done right, it can be effective. As noted above, some areas where collateral damage can occur rule out its safe use. But even in my case, where collateral damage was considered a mild threat, I have suffered permanent lung damage, which thankfully has diminished to the point I am no longer effected, and damage to shoulder ligaments, which have created chronic pain and some mobility issues, but again, nothing extreme. It should be noted that different people do respond differently and not every tumor even responds exactly the same way. For me, after failing multiple therapies including Keytruda as single agents, my experience with the Yervoy-Opdivo (similar to Keytruda)-radiation combo has proved to offer the first systemic success I have encountered. Bottom line is radiation combined with Keytruda may indeed be the very best bet. On a final note, if BRAF positive, that could also be a good start to lower tumor burden quickly in a first step, followed by anti PD-1 drug Keytruda which appears to work better on smaller tumors.
Gary
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- October 28, 2016 at 2:45 am
Hi Linda,
sorry to hear you have to deal with this.
In my case I am Stage IV ( 4 previos metastasis resolved: lymph nodes, brain, adrenal and thitgt subcutáneos) and had subcutáneos nodes in my back I began Keytruda December 28, 2015 and 25 applications of radiotherapy on february 2016. Both díd a great work together: no more nodes in my back and mild typical side effects of radiotherapy.
I had my 15th keytruda application last week and I am doing ver y well.
Keytruda is grea!
Good luck!!!
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- October 28, 2016 at 2:45 am
Hi Linda,
sorry to hear you have to deal with this.
In my case I am Stage IV ( 4 previos metastasis resolved: lymph nodes, brain, adrenal and thitgt subcutáneos) and had subcutáneos nodes in my back I began Keytruda December 28, 2015 and 25 applications of radiotherapy on february 2016. Both díd a great work together: no more nodes in my back and mild typical side effects of radiotherapy.
I had my 15th keytruda application last week and I am doing ver y well.
Keytruda is grea!
Good luck!!!
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- October 28, 2016 at 2:45 am
Hi Linda,
sorry to hear you have to deal with this.
In my case I am Stage IV ( 4 previos metastasis resolved: lymph nodes, brain, adrenal and thitgt subcutáneos) and had subcutáneos nodes in my back I began Keytruda December 28, 2015 and 25 applications of radiotherapy on february 2016. Both díd a great work together: no more nodes in my back and mild typical side effects of radiotherapy.
I had my 15th keytruda application last week and I am doing ver y well.
Keytruda is grea!
Good luck!!!
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- October 27, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Hi Linda,
Sorry to hear you have to deal with this. I do have a bit of experience here. Been through two rounds of radiation, to destroy large sub-q tumors. As I've mentioned here before, there is no action without a reaction. Short version is two out of three large 8-10CM tumors were completely eliminated with a five-dose, painless radiation treatment. When done right, it can be effective. As noted above, some areas where collateral damage can occur rule out its safe use. But even in my case, where collateral damage was considered a mild threat, I have suffered permanent lung damage, which thankfully has diminished to the point I am no longer effected, and damage to shoulder ligaments, which have created chronic pain and some mobility issues, but again, nothing extreme. It should be noted that different people do respond differently and not every tumor even responds exactly the same way. For me, after failing multiple therapies including Keytruda as single agents, my experience with the Yervoy-Opdivo (similar to Keytruda)-radiation combo has proved to offer the first systemic success I have encountered. Bottom line is radiation combined with Keytruda may indeed be the very best bet. On a final note, if BRAF positive, that could also be a good start to lower tumor burden quickly in a first step, followed by anti PD-1 drug Keytruda which appears to work better on smaller tumors.
Gary
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- October 27, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Hi Linda,
Sorry to hear you have to deal with this. I do have a bit of experience here. Been through two rounds of radiation, to destroy large sub-q tumors. As I've mentioned here before, there is no action without a reaction. Short version is two out of three large 8-10CM tumors were completely eliminated with a five-dose, painless radiation treatment. When done right, it can be effective. As noted above, some areas where collateral damage can occur rule out its safe use. But even in my case, where collateral damage was considered a mild threat, I have suffered permanent lung damage, which thankfully has diminished to the point I am no longer effected, and damage to shoulder ligaments, which have created chronic pain and some mobility issues, but again, nothing extreme. It should be noted that different people do respond differently and not every tumor even responds exactly the same way. For me, after failing multiple therapies including Keytruda as single agents, my experience with the Yervoy-Opdivo (similar to Keytruda)-radiation combo has proved to offer the first systemic success I have encountered. Bottom line is radiation combined with Keytruda may indeed be the very best bet. On a final note, if BRAF positive, that could also be a good start to lower tumor burden quickly in a first step, followed by anti PD-1 drug Keytruda which appears to work better on smaller tumors.
Gary
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- October 29, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Hi Linda, I going to give you a link to a current video by Dr. Michael Postow to hopefully help in your decision making process. If you go to the 34:00min mark he talks about radiation and Immunotherapy. Best Wishes!!!Ed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxrzoERrzEU
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- October 29, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Hi Linda, I going to give you a link to a current video by Dr. Michael Postow to hopefully help in your decision making process. If you go to the 34:00min mark he talks about radiation and Immunotherapy. Best Wishes!!!Ed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxrzoERrzEU
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- October 29, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Hi Linda, I going to give you a link to a current video by Dr. Michael Postow to hopefully help in your decision making process. If you go to the 34:00min mark he talks about radiation and Immunotherapy. Best Wishes!!!Ed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxrzoERrzEU
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