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Radiation pros and cons

Forums General Melanoma Community Radiation pros and cons

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    lindanat
    Participant

      I was recently diagnosed stage 4 unknown primary source.  Tumor removed right axilla 13cm and about 20 lymph nodes. Surgeon got 99% but had to leave some that was wrapped around artery in my arm.  Onc wants to do radiation but melanoma specialist wants to start keytruda right away and bypass radiation so that keytruda can work.  Any thoughts on radiation? I want to get going with keytruda. 

       

      Thanks,

      Linda

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        debwray
        Participant

          Hi.

          Big area for research

          https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=pembrolizumab+radiation+melanoma&Search=Search

          if you go to advanced search and in put your country/ state you could see what is going in your area.

          trial 8 looks interesting….

          some of the trials have criteria that includes prior dosing with keytruda. Gut feeling is follow melanoma expert advice- if Keytruda works for you might not even need radio.

          Good Luck

          Deb

           

          debwray
          Participant

            Hi.

            Big area for research

            https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=pembrolizumab+radiation+melanoma&Search=Search

            if you go to advanced search and in put your country/ state you could see what is going in your area.

            trial 8 looks interesting….

            some of the trials have criteria that includes prior dosing with keytruda. Gut feeling is follow melanoma expert advice- if Keytruda works for you might not even need radio.

            Good Luck

            Deb

             

            debwray
            Participant

              Hi.

              Big area for research

              https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=pembrolizumab+radiation+melanoma&Search=Search

              if you go to advanced search and in put your country/ state you could see what is going in your area.

              trial 8 looks interesting….

              some of the trials have criteria that includes prior dosing with keytruda. Gut feeling is follow melanoma expert advice- if Keytruda works for you might not even need radio.

              Good Luck

              Deb

               

              Bubbles
              Participant

                Hi Linda, 

                Sorry that you are dealing with all this. Keytruda certainly sounds like a good treatment plan for you. And while radiation alone has not been found particularly beneficial for melanoma…when it is COMBINED with immunotherapy (like keytruda) the combination can provide results better than either treatment alone.  Here is a post containing a new article discussing that very thing, with additional studies linked within:

                http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2016/10/one-more-timebetter-responses-when.html 

                Occasionally, radiation is not an option because of the proximity to vital organs and vessles that cannot tolerate the effects of radiation. I don't know if that is a pertinent consideration in your case….but I would certainly talk to my melanoma specialist about the possibility of doing both!

                I wish you my best. Celeste

                Bubbles
                Participant

                  Hi Linda, 

                  Sorry that you are dealing with all this. Keytruda certainly sounds like a good treatment plan for you. And while radiation alone has not been found particularly beneficial for melanoma…when it is COMBINED with immunotherapy (like keytruda) the combination can provide results better than either treatment alone.  Here is a post containing a new article discussing that very thing, with additional studies linked within:

                  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2016/10/one-more-timebetter-responses-when.html 

                  Occasionally, radiation is not an option because of the proximity to vital organs and vessles that cannot tolerate the effects of radiation. I don't know if that is a pertinent consideration in your case….but I would certainly talk to my melanoma specialist about the possibility of doing both!

                  I wish you my best. Celeste

                  Bubbles
                  Participant

                    Hi Linda, 

                    Sorry that you are dealing with all this. Keytruda certainly sounds like a good treatment plan for you. And while radiation alone has not been found particularly beneficial for melanoma…when it is COMBINED with immunotherapy (like keytruda) the combination can provide results better than either treatment alone.  Here is a post containing a new article discussing that very thing, with additional studies linked within:

                    http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2016/10/one-more-timebetter-responses-when.html 

                    Occasionally, radiation is not an option because of the proximity to vital organs and vessles that cannot tolerate the effects of radiation. I don't know if that is a pertinent consideration in your case….but I would certainly talk to my melanoma specialist about the possibility of doing both!

                    I wish you my best. Celeste

                    Polymath
                    Participant

                      Hi Linda,

                      Sorry to hear you have to deal with this.  I do have a bit of experience here.  Been through two rounds of radiation, to destroy large sub-q tumors.  As I've mentioned here before, there is no action without a reaction.  Short version is two out of three large 8-10CM tumors were completely eliminated with a five-dose, painless radiation treatment.  When done right, it can be effective.  As noted above, some areas where collateral damage can occur rule out its safe use.  But even in my case, where collateral damage was considered a mild threat, I have suffered permanent lung damage, which thankfully has diminished to the point I am no longer effected, and damage to shoulder ligaments, which have created chronic pain and some mobility issues, but again, nothing extreme.  It should be noted that different people do respond differently and not every tumor even responds exactly the same way.  For me, after failing multiple therapies including Keytruda as single agents, my experience with the Yervoy-Opdivo (similar to Keytruda)-radiation combo has proved to offer the first systemic success I have encountered.  Bottom line is radiation combined with Keytruda may indeed be the very best bet.  On a final note, if BRAF positive, that could also be a good start to lower tumor burden quickly in a first step, followed by anti PD-1 drug Keytruda which appears to work better on smaller tumors.

                      Gary

                        williez
                        Participant

                          Hi Linda,

                          sorry to hear you have to deal with this.

                          In my case I am Stage IV ( 4 previos metastasis resolved: lymph nodes, brain, adrenal and thitgt subcutáneos) and had subcutáneos nodes in my back I began Keytruda December 28, 2015 and 25 applications of radiotherapy on february 2016. Both díd a great work together: no more nodes in my back and mild typical side effects of radiotherapy.

                          I had my 15th keytruda application last week and I am doing ver y well.

                          Keytruda is grea!

                          Good luck!!!

                          williez
                          Participant

                            Hi Linda,

                            sorry to hear you have to deal with this.

                            In my case I am Stage IV ( 4 previos metastasis resolved: lymph nodes, brain, adrenal and thitgt subcutáneos) and had subcutáneos nodes in my back I began Keytruda December 28, 2015 and 25 applications of radiotherapy on february 2016. Both díd a great work together: no more nodes in my back and mild typical side effects of radiotherapy.

                            I had my 15th keytruda application last week and I am doing ver y well.

                            Keytruda is grea!

                            Good luck!!!

                            williez
                            Participant

                              Hi Linda,

                              sorry to hear you have to deal with this.

                              In my case I am Stage IV ( 4 previos metastasis resolved: lymph nodes, brain, adrenal and thitgt subcutáneos) and had subcutáneos nodes in my back I began Keytruda December 28, 2015 and 25 applications of radiotherapy on february 2016. Both díd a great work together: no more nodes in my back and mild typical side effects of radiotherapy.

                              I had my 15th keytruda application last week and I am doing ver y well.

                              Keytruda is grea!

                              Good luck!!!

                            Polymath
                            Participant

                              Hi Linda,

                              Sorry to hear you have to deal with this.  I do have a bit of experience here.  Been through two rounds of radiation, to destroy large sub-q tumors.  As I've mentioned here before, there is no action without a reaction.  Short version is two out of three large 8-10CM tumors were completely eliminated with a five-dose, painless radiation treatment.  When done right, it can be effective.  As noted above, some areas where collateral damage can occur rule out its safe use.  But even in my case, where collateral damage was considered a mild threat, I have suffered permanent lung damage, which thankfully has diminished to the point I am no longer effected, and damage to shoulder ligaments, which have created chronic pain and some mobility issues, but again, nothing extreme.  It should be noted that different people do respond differently and not every tumor even responds exactly the same way.  For me, after failing multiple therapies including Keytruda as single agents, my experience with the Yervoy-Opdivo (similar to Keytruda)-radiation combo has proved to offer the first systemic success I have encountered.  Bottom line is radiation combined with Keytruda may indeed be the very best bet.  On a final note, if BRAF positive, that could also be a good start to lower tumor burden quickly in a first step, followed by anti PD-1 drug Keytruda which appears to work better on smaller tumors.

                              Gary

                              Polymath
                              Participant

                                Hi Linda,

                                Sorry to hear you have to deal with this.  I do have a bit of experience here.  Been through two rounds of radiation, to destroy large sub-q tumors.  As I've mentioned here before, there is no action without a reaction.  Short version is two out of three large 8-10CM tumors were completely eliminated with a five-dose, painless radiation treatment.  When done right, it can be effective.  As noted above, some areas where collateral damage can occur rule out its safe use.  But even in my case, where collateral damage was considered a mild threat, I have suffered permanent lung damage, which thankfully has diminished to the point I am no longer effected, and damage to shoulder ligaments, which have created chronic pain and some mobility issues, but again, nothing extreme.  It should be noted that different people do respond differently and not every tumor even responds exactly the same way.  For me, after failing multiple therapies including Keytruda as single agents, my experience with the Yervoy-Opdivo (similar to Keytruda)-radiation combo has proved to offer the first systemic success I have encountered.  Bottom line is radiation combined with Keytruda may indeed be the very best bet.  On a final note, if BRAF positive, that could also be a good start to lower tumor burden quickly in a first step, followed by anti PD-1 drug Keytruda which appears to work better on smaller tumors.

                                Gary

                                ed williams
                                Participant

                                  Hi Linda, I going to give you a link to a current video by Dr. Michael Postow to hopefully help in your decision making process. If you go to the 34:00min mark he talks about radiation and Immunotherapy. Best Wishes!!!Ed  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxrzoERrzEU

                                  ed williams
                                  Participant

                                    Hi Linda, I going to give you a link to a current video by Dr. Michael Postow to hopefully help in your decision making process. If you go to the 34:00min mark he talks about radiation and Immunotherapy. Best Wishes!!!Ed  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxrzoERrzEU

                                    ed williams
                                    Participant

                                      Hi Linda, I going to give you a link to a current video by Dr. Michael Postow to hopefully help in your decision making process. If you go to the 34:00min mark he talks about radiation and Immunotherapy. Best Wishes!!!Ed  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxrzoERrzEU

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