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- June 17, 2013 at 2:52 am
Last year I finally got around to going to see a dermatologist. I had an appointment in 2011 but during the time between when the appointment was scheduled and the actual appointment – 4 months – my father got very ill and I just forgot to go. So, since the spot on my leg looked just as bad as it had the previous year, maybe a bit worse, I finally made the appointment and went. The dermatoligist said he didn't know what the spot was, but he wasn't concerned about it. There was however a spot on my left cheek that he wanted to biopsy.
Last year I finally got around to going to see a dermatologist. I had an appointment in 2011 but during the time between when the appointment was scheduled and the actual appointment – 4 months – my father got very ill and I just forgot to go. So, since the spot on my leg looked just as bad as it had the previous year, maybe a bit worse, I finally made the appointment and went. The dermatoligist said he didn't know what the spot was, but he wasn't concerned about it. There was however a spot on my left cheek that he wanted to biopsy. Turned out to be a desmoplastic melanoma – and I had had that spot for a number of years as well, my primary care doctor had told me it was a cyst several years previous. Well, I had surgery and a sentinal node biopsy and got on with my life. Still didn't like the way the spot on the back of my leg looked and said so at every doctor's appointment. Two weeks ago I saw a physican's assistant at my plastic surgeon's office and mentioned it again. She said she would do a biopsy just to put my mind at ease, but didn't think it was anything serious – have heard this for several years now. Well, then I get the phone call that it is infact another melanoma. How in the world could all of these doctors have not diagnosed that when I kept pointing it out to them??? Now I am a bit concerned because I know it has been there at least 2 – 3 years and has gotten larger in that time. Also how much confidence should I have in medical professionals who keep looking at this and saying they aren't concerned with it when they are supposed to be able to diagnose melanomas?
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- June 17, 2013 at 10:19 am
My husband had a similar experience about 13 years ago. He had already had 2 primary melanomas, the first of which was quite deep. The second not as worrisome. There was a third spot he was worried about that he brought to the attention of the melanoma specialists at a cancer center. They didn't think it was melanoma and did not want to remove it. So he went back to his first dermatologist and asked her to remove it. It was melanoma. Subsequently he had 6 additional primary melanomas removed over the years.
One thing he has done since is to always have two dermatologists. He saw each dermatologist twice yearly, so that he was getting looked at a total of four times yearly. His community, private practice dermatologist Dr. Gayle Masri-Fridiling was usually the one most willing to biopsy. This worked well when we lived in the US. When we lived overseas he flew back to the U.S. twice a year to see Gayle.
In summary we needed the cancer team, however Gayle understood how subjective the naked eye is. She also used photos. She was the one to pick up his Stage IV metastatic melanoma last August when she saw a small brown spot that had not been present 6 months earlier(she noticed this spot was NOT in the photos). Due to the mitotic rate and other factors the pathologist recognized that this was metastatic rather than primary.
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- June 17, 2013 at 10:19 am
My husband had a similar experience about 13 years ago. He had already had 2 primary melanomas, the first of which was quite deep. The second not as worrisome. There was a third spot he was worried about that he brought to the attention of the melanoma specialists at a cancer center. They didn't think it was melanoma and did not want to remove it. So he went back to his first dermatologist and asked her to remove it. It was melanoma. Subsequently he had 6 additional primary melanomas removed over the years.
One thing he has done since is to always have two dermatologists. He saw each dermatologist twice yearly, so that he was getting looked at a total of four times yearly. His community, private practice dermatologist Dr. Gayle Masri-Fridiling was usually the one most willing to biopsy. This worked well when we lived in the US. When we lived overseas he flew back to the U.S. twice a year to see Gayle.
In summary we needed the cancer team, however Gayle understood how subjective the naked eye is. She also used photos. She was the one to pick up his Stage IV metastatic melanoma last August when she saw a small brown spot that had not been present 6 months earlier(she noticed this spot was NOT in the photos). Due to the mitotic rate and other factors the pathologist recognized that this was metastatic rather than primary.
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- June 17, 2013 at 10:19 am
My husband had a similar experience about 13 years ago. He had already had 2 primary melanomas, the first of which was quite deep. The second not as worrisome. There was a third spot he was worried about that he brought to the attention of the melanoma specialists at a cancer center. They didn't think it was melanoma and did not want to remove it. So he went back to his first dermatologist and asked her to remove it. It was melanoma. Subsequently he had 6 additional primary melanomas removed over the years.
One thing he has done since is to always have two dermatologists. He saw each dermatologist twice yearly, so that he was getting looked at a total of four times yearly. His community, private practice dermatologist Dr. Gayle Masri-Fridiling was usually the one most willing to biopsy. This worked well when we lived in the US. When we lived overseas he flew back to the U.S. twice a year to see Gayle.
In summary we needed the cancer team, however Gayle understood how subjective the naked eye is. She also used photos. She was the one to pick up his Stage IV metastatic melanoma last August when she saw a small brown spot that had not been present 6 months earlier(she noticed this spot was NOT in the photos). Due to the mitotic rate and other factors the pathologist recognized that this was metastatic rather than primary.
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- June 17, 2013 at 11:05 am
I personally think it is because many non-melanoma specialists (including derms) have a specific idea in their mind about what melanoma looks like and what it does not, and melanoma doesn't really follow those rules. Will's was amelanotic, right on the back of his head near his hairline for years, but until it ulcerated, no one paid any attention.
Lori, caregiver to Will
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- June 17, 2013 at 11:05 am
I personally think it is because many non-melanoma specialists (including derms) have a specific idea in their mind about what melanoma looks like and what it does not, and melanoma doesn't really follow those rules. Will's was amelanotic, right on the back of his head near his hairline for years, but until it ulcerated, no one paid any attention.
Lori, caregiver to Will
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- June 17, 2013 at 11:05 am
I personally think it is because many non-melanoma specialists (including derms) have a specific idea in their mind about what melanoma looks like and what it does not, and melanoma doesn't really follow those rules. Will's was amelanotic, right on the back of his head near his hairline for years, but until it ulcerated, no one paid any attention.
Lori, caregiver to Will
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- June 17, 2013 at 1:02 pm
You're hardly alone. I saw a survey years back that said something like 73% of primary care physicians didn't diagnose melanoma when it presented. My (new) melanoma specialist also thought my third primary did not look suspicious. I insisted it get biopsied at my second visit. It did not look like typical melanoma at all, but *I* knew it had changed. For me, that is the important factor. Since then, I've had photographs taken and that gives me an "independent eye" on my skin. My doc has also learned that he trusts nothing on my skin and is willing to biopsy anything I feel uneasy about. We check the photos and discuss a plan. It's a partnership, not my doc telling me "this is fine".
Plenty of primaries look typical for melanoma, but there are also a lot that don't. You have to be your own advocate. I do NOT rely on anyone besides myself to diagnose primaries – I know myself best. My derm looks at my skin, but I tell him what concerns me.and what my gut says is not good. Anything changes and it is gone. My doc insists on photographs because he says there is no way he can remember from one visit to another what some mole looked like. CHANGE is what drives biopsies at my cancer institute and on my body as well.
Best wishes that this latest is an early primary!
Janner
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- June 17, 2013 at 1:02 pm
You're hardly alone. I saw a survey years back that said something like 73% of primary care physicians didn't diagnose melanoma when it presented. My (new) melanoma specialist also thought my third primary did not look suspicious. I insisted it get biopsied at my second visit. It did not look like typical melanoma at all, but *I* knew it had changed. For me, that is the important factor. Since then, I've had photographs taken and that gives me an "independent eye" on my skin. My doc has also learned that he trusts nothing on my skin and is willing to biopsy anything I feel uneasy about. We check the photos and discuss a plan. It's a partnership, not my doc telling me "this is fine".
Plenty of primaries look typical for melanoma, but there are also a lot that don't. You have to be your own advocate. I do NOT rely on anyone besides myself to diagnose primaries – I know myself best. My derm looks at my skin, but I tell him what concerns me.and what my gut says is not good. Anything changes and it is gone. My doc insists on photographs because he says there is no way he can remember from one visit to another what some mole looked like. CHANGE is what drives biopsies at my cancer institute and on my body as well.
Best wishes that this latest is an early primary!
Janner
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- June 17, 2013 at 1:02 pm
You're hardly alone. I saw a survey years back that said something like 73% of primary care physicians didn't diagnose melanoma when it presented. My (new) melanoma specialist also thought my third primary did not look suspicious. I insisted it get biopsied at my second visit. It did not look like typical melanoma at all, but *I* knew it had changed. For me, that is the important factor. Since then, I've had photographs taken and that gives me an "independent eye" on my skin. My doc has also learned that he trusts nothing on my skin and is willing to biopsy anything I feel uneasy about. We check the photos and discuss a plan. It's a partnership, not my doc telling me "this is fine".
Plenty of primaries look typical for melanoma, but there are also a lot that don't. You have to be your own advocate. I do NOT rely on anyone besides myself to diagnose primaries – I know myself best. My derm looks at my skin, but I tell him what concerns me.and what my gut says is not good. Anything changes and it is gone. My doc insists on photographs because he says there is no way he can remember from one visit to another what some mole looked like. CHANGE is what drives biopsies at my cancer institute and on my body as well.
Best wishes that this latest is an early primary!
Janner
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- June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm
seathing child, i am very sorry to hear this,but it doesn't surprise me,my husband had a mole on his back for years that i did not like,he never went,until it grew a blister on it,he went to a dermatologist and he told him "im not worried about it" ,i think they tell everyone that,had a biopsy and came back as stage 3b melanoma, it has been a long year and half, he seems to be doing well,it had spread lymph nodes,brain ,lungs..etc. ,so keeping our fingers crossed that the ippi will work, the interferon obviously didn't. me and my 13 year old are going in july, and i am pertrified,i do have a lot of moles,none that really concern me, but,that doesn't really matter., i believe that if something bothers you and u are very worried about the mole, then why not biopsy it,i don't get doctors sometimes,it is ur body and if thats wat you want done then they should do it, i don't feel that you should have to wait,better be safe than sorry!!!! i wish u luck in this,let us know wat goes on!!!!!
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- June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm
seathing child, i am very sorry to hear this,but it doesn't surprise me,my husband had a mole on his back for years that i did not like,he never went,until it grew a blister on it,he went to a dermatologist and he told him "im not worried about it" ,i think they tell everyone that,had a biopsy and came back as stage 3b melanoma, it has been a long year and half, he seems to be doing well,it had spread lymph nodes,brain ,lungs..etc. ,so keeping our fingers crossed that the ippi will work, the interferon obviously didn't. me and my 13 year old are going in july, and i am pertrified,i do have a lot of moles,none that really concern me, but,that doesn't really matter., i believe that if something bothers you and u are very worried about the mole, then why not biopsy it,i don't get doctors sometimes,it is ur body and if thats wat you want done then they should do it, i don't feel that you should have to wait,better be safe than sorry!!!! i wish u luck in this,let us know wat goes on!!!!!
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- June 17, 2013 at 6:11 pm
seathing child, i am very sorry to hear this,but it doesn't surprise me,my husband had a mole on his back for years that i did not like,he never went,until it grew a blister on it,he went to a dermatologist and he told him "im not worried about it" ,i think they tell everyone that,had a biopsy and came back as stage 3b melanoma, it has been a long year and half, he seems to be doing well,it had spread lymph nodes,brain ,lungs..etc. ,so keeping our fingers crossed that the ippi will work, the interferon obviously didn't. me and my 13 year old are going in july, and i am pertrified,i do have a lot of moles,none that really concern me, but,that doesn't really matter., i believe that if something bothers you and u are very worried about the mole, then why not biopsy it,i don't get doctors sometimes,it is ur body and if thats wat you want done then they should do it, i don't feel that you should have to wait,better be safe than sorry!!!! i wish u luck in this,let us know wat goes on!!!!!
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- June 17, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Thank you, This whole thing is just new to me and I don't know what to think. I have always been an extremely healthy person – didn't go to a doctor for about 10 years really – so I have certainly made up the difference in the last 10 months! I am definitely switching to a new dermatologist – need someone who is more willing to listen to me for sure. Also I know I will have to be more assertive and proactive with my health – can't take it for granted anymore.
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- June 17, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Thank you, This whole thing is just new to me and I don't know what to think. I have always been an extremely healthy person – didn't go to a doctor for about 10 years really – so I have certainly made up the difference in the last 10 months! I am definitely switching to a new dermatologist – need someone who is more willing to listen to me for sure. Also I know I will have to be more assertive and proactive with my health – can't take it for granted anymore.
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- June 17, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Thank you, This whole thing is just new to me and I don't know what to think. I have always been an extremely healthy person – didn't go to a doctor for about 10 years really – so I have certainly made up the difference in the last 10 months! I am definitely switching to a new dermatologist – need someone who is more willing to listen to me for sure. Also I know I will have to be more assertive and proactive with my health – can't take it for granted anymore.
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- June 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Ditto! You are helping so many more than just the person asking the question! This board is a constant flow of information and we are all learning from each other. It's so important to share your experiences and knowledge. I'm amazed at how much time you generously give to this forum, we are so grateful….THANK YOU!
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- June 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Ditto! You are helping so many more than just the person asking the question! This board is a constant flow of information and we are all learning from each other. It's so important to share your experiences and knowledge. I'm amazed at how much time you generously give to this forum, we are so grateful….THANK YOU!
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- June 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Ditto! You are helping so many more than just the person asking the question! This board is a constant flow of information and we are all learning from each other. It's so important to share your experiences and knowledge. I'm amazed at how much time you generously give to this forum, we are so grateful….THANK YOU!
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- June 18, 2013 at 3:43 am
Awww shucks. Thanks Dave and Swanee. I try to move on thinking it would be better for me, but it just doesn't happen. I try not to post too much, but then can't always let things pass without a comment. I think there is some OCD involved, lol. Nice to know that someone appreciates my posts, however. Thanks again!
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- June 18, 2013 at 3:43 am
Awww shucks. Thanks Dave and Swanee. I try to move on thinking it would be better for me, but it just doesn't happen. I try not to post too much, but then can't always let things pass without a comment. I think there is some OCD involved, lol. Nice to know that someone appreciates my posts, however. Thanks again!
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- June 18, 2013 at 3:43 am
Awww shucks. Thanks Dave and Swanee. I try to move on thinking it would be better for me, but it just doesn't happen. I try not to post too much, but then can't always let things pass without a comment. I think there is some OCD involved, lol. Nice to know that someone appreciates my posts, however. Thanks again!
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- June 18, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Didn't mean to steal the thread but I did want to give props for Janner for all she does. The one thing I'd like to add is to get to a derm who really knows their stuff. Makes all the difference. When I was diagnosed 3b my surgeon sent me to an oncologist who I'll never go back and see; my 1 appoinment was that miserable.
Find someone who cares…
Dave
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- June 18, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Didn't mean to steal the thread but I did want to give props for Janner for all she does. The one thing I'd like to add is to get to a derm who really knows their stuff. Makes all the difference. When I was diagnosed 3b my surgeon sent me to an oncologist who I'll never go back and see; my 1 appoinment was that miserable.
Find someone who cares…
Dave
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- June 18, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Didn't mean to steal the thread but I did want to give props for Janner for all she does. The one thing I'd like to add is to get to a derm who really knows their stuff. Makes all the difference. When I was diagnosed 3b my surgeon sent me to an oncologist who I'll never go back and see; my 1 appoinment was that miserable.
Find someone who cares…
Dave
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