› Forums › General Melanoma Community › My husband just diagnosed with Stage 4 metastatic malignant melanoma – now what?
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:58 am
He has had the biopsy, and the PET scan. The PET showed lymph nodes "lit up" closer to the heart area. The original nodule that started us on this path is mid lobe. We met the oncologist yesterday, and the surgeon today. Still no defined answers…….the surgeon is taking it to the tumor board to see if removing the mid lobe and all the lymph nodes is the answer….
He also spoke of not doing a "local approach" of removing the mid lobe if the lymph nodes are too affected – needed to get a systemic approach. We now wait again, and learn more on Monday on the plan they suggest for us. It's crazy,, my husband feels fine! he experiences some shortness of breath at times, and his voice gets gravely. BUT the surgeon pointed out that the nodes next to the vocal chords didn't "light up" so almost to say that Charles' gravely voice might be a manifestation of too much internet searching on symptoms. I know that it not the case becuse even before he was ever biopsied his changing voice Irritated the shit out of me……I kept telling him to clear his throat.
So I guess what am I asking? We are still so early in the journey…..but the elephant in the room is how long will he live if diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma in lung and in lymph nodes? No one has a crystal ball…..but…..should we run away to an island and spend time creating memories if life expectancy stats are dismal?? Just thinking out loud…….any feedback to us is great.
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- June 17, 2015 at 4:14 am
Hi Rita,
Sorry for all that you and your husband are dealing with. I have been Stage IV since 2010 after lung and brain mets. I have been dealing with melanoma since 2003. You can do this! You absolutely need a melanoma specialist…not just a general oncologist. Period. If you have that, great. If not…do the best you can to find a resource. Look at the thread by Jennycrn1, from 6/2 titled "Newly diagnosed stage 3a". I posted a description of the best, most current treatments of melanoma to that thread on 6/3. There were some caveats for her as she is stage III. However, your husband qualifies for them all at stage IV. Ask more questions as you need to. This board is a wonderful resource. Wishing you my best. celeste
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- June 17, 2015 at 4:14 am
Hi Rita,
Sorry for all that you and your husband are dealing with. I have been Stage IV since 2010 after lung and brain mets. I have been dealing with melanoma since 2003. You can do this! You absolutely need a melanoma specialist…not just a general oncologist. Period. If you have that, great. If not…do the best you can to find a resource. Look at the thread by Jennycrn1, from 6/2 titled "Newly diagnosed stage 3a". I posted a description of the best, most current treatments of melanoma to that thread on 6/3. There were some caveats for her as she is stage III. However, your husband qualifies for them all at stage IV. Ask more questions as you need to. This board is a wonderful resource. Wishing you my best. celeste
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- June 17, 2015 at 4:14 am
Hi Rita,
Sorry for all that you and your husband are dealing with. I have been Stage IV since 2010 after lung and brain mets. I have been dealing with melanoma since 2003. You can do this! You absolutely need a melanoma specialist…not just a general oncologist. Period. If you have that, great. If not…do the best you can to find a resource. Look at the thread by Jennycrn1, from 6/2 titled "Newly diagnosed stage 3a". I posted a description of the best, most current treatments of melanoma to that thread on 6/3. There were some caveats for her as she is stage III. However, your husband qualifies for them all at stage IV. Ask more questions as you need to. This board is a wonderful resource. Wishing you my best. celeste
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- June 18, 2015 at 3:20 am
thank you so much for your resonse we are taking it all in….and definitly investigating a melanoma specialist. We live in San Diego and currntly our doctors are at Scripps. The oncologist is the director of the cancer hospital……but now that I think about it not sure if he is melanoma specialist….. Thank you for your responses. WE just read the full trail outload and and breathing a bit easier to see so many people with survival stories……
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- June 18, 2015 at 3:20 am
thank you so much for your resonse we are taking it all in….and definitly investigating a melanoma specialist. We live in San Diego and currntly our doctors are at Scripps. The oncologist is the director of the cancer hospital……but now that I think about it not sure if he is melanoma specialist….. Thank you for your responses. WE just read the full trail outload and and breathing a bit easier to see so many people with survival stories……
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- June 18, 2015 at 3:20 am
thank you so much for your resonse we are taking it all in….and definitly investigating a melanoma specialist. We live in San Diego and currntly our doctors are at Scripps. The oncologist is the director of the cancer hospital……but now that I think about it not sure if he is melanoma specialist….. Thank you for your responses. WE just read the full trail outload and and breathing a bit easier to see so many people with survival stories……
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- June 17, 2015 at 4:33 am
Hold off on the island getaway. There are so many options now that didn't exist when my husband was diagnosed in September 2013. He is NED now . He feels and looks great. He was 3c and "progressed" to stage 4 after his initial infusion of yervoy. It had metastasized to the liver which in old stats give you 4-6 months to live. He had ablation surgery in May 2014 and no further treatment. We know now that he had an "atypical" response to yervoy (ipi) but at the time it was devastating.
Do not be afraid if they mention immunotherapy as a treatment along with surgery. The side effects are manageable . Look into clinical trials also. There are many people who post on this forum who have lived a very long time with melanoma. So. My advice is to keep in touch here. Stay positive. Try to see a melanoma specialist. We did not, but it has worked out okay for us since kaiser had a clinical trial for melanoma. Good luck and don't look at any stats on the Internet. They are outdated and will only get you depressed.
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- June 17, 2015 at 4:33 am
Hold off on the island getaway. There are so many options now that didn't exist when my husband was diagnosed in September 2013. He is NED now . He feels and looks great. He was 3c and "progressed" to stage 4 after his initial infusion of yervoy. It had metastasized to the liver which in old stats give you 4-6 months to live. He had ablation surgery in May 2014 and no further treatment. We know now that he had an "atypical" response to yervoy (ipi) but at the time it was devastating.
Do not be afraid if they mention immunotherapy as a treatment along with surgery. The side effects are manageable . Look into clinical trials also. There are many people who post on this forum who have lived a very long time with melanoma. So. My advice is to keep in touch here. Stay positive. Try to see a melanoma specialist. We did not, but it has worked out okay for us since kaiser had a clinical trial for melanoma. Good luck and don't look at any stats on the Internet. They are outdated and will only get you depressed.
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- June 17, 2015 at 4:33 am
Hold off on the island getaway. There are so many options now that didn't exist when my husband was diagnosed in September 2013. He is NED now . He feels and looks great. He was 3c and "progressed" to stage 4 after his initial infusion of yervoy. It had metastasized to the liver which in old stats give you 4-6 months to live. He had ablation surgery in May 2014 and no further treatment. We know now that he had an "atypical" response to yervoy (ipi) but at the time it was devastating.
Do not be afraid if they mention immunotherapy as a treatment along with surgery. The side effects are manageable . Look into clinical trials also. There are many people who post on this forum who have lived a very long time with melanoma. So. My advice is to keep in touch here. Stay positive. Try to see a melanoma specialist. We did not, but it has worked out okay for us since kaiser had a clinical trial for melanoma. Good luck and don't look at any stats on the Internet. They are outdated and will only get you depressed.
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- June 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Hi Rita, you have been given great advice about getting in touch with a melanoma specialist. Surgeons love to cute stuff out and Melanoma specialist like to give drugs and radiologist like to give radiation, with that being said look at the current survival data for Melanoma and you will find Immunotherapy is hands down the winner when it comes to keeping patients alive. I also have lung and Lymph node involvement on the right lung, which the Oncologist decided would be to dangerous to operate on. I have been part of the checkmate 67 trial (Immunotherapy) from Bristol Myer Squibb for 1.5 years now and doing fine. I like your idea of running off to an island somewhere, I have taken the family to Cuba and Disney in florida over the last year and had a great time. I must admit that two years ago I was pretty freaked for the first couple of months, during the what are we going to do stage of this disease. The choices that you have available today are truely amazing compared with two years ago. Wishing you the best!!! Ed
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- June 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Hi Rita, you have been given great advice about getting in touch with a melanoma specialist. Surgeons love to cute stuff out and Melanoma specialist like to give drugs and radiologist like to give radiation, with that being said look at the current survival data for Melanoma and you will find Immunotherapy is hands down the winner when it comes to keeping patients alive. I also have lung and Lymph node involvement on the right lung, which the Oncologist decided would be to dangerous to operate on. I have been part of the checkmate 67 trial (Immunotherapy) from Bristol Myer Squibb for 1.5 years now and doing fine. I like your idea of running off to an island somewhere, I have taken the family to Cuba and Disney in florida over the last year and had a great time. I must admit that two years ago I was pretty freaked for the first couple of months, during the what are we going to do stage of this disease. The choices that you have available today are truely amazing compared with two years ago. Wishing you the best!!! Ed
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- June 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Hi Rita, you have been given great advice about getting in touch with a melanoma specialist. Surgeons love to cute stuff out and Melanoma specialist like to give drugs and radiologist like to give radiation, with that being said look at the current survival data for Melanoma and you will find Immunotherapy is hands down the winner when it comes to keeping patients alive. I also have lung and Lymph node involvement on the right lung, which the Oncologist decided would be to dangerous to operate on. I have been part of the checkmate 67 trial (Immunotherapy) from Bristol Myer Squibb for 1.5 years now and doing fine. I like your idea of running off to an island somewhere, I have taken the family to Cuba and Disney in florida over the last year and had a great time. I must admit that two years ago I was pretty freaked for the first couple of months, during the what are we going to do stage of this disease. The choices that you have available today are truely amazing compared with two years ago. Wishing you the best!!! Ed
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Rita, I'm sorry for what you and your husband are going through. I remember very vividly being in a similar position last year when my dad was found to have bilateral lung mets and lymph nodes and soft tissue neck mets. He had surgery, did fantastic for a year, and now with recurrence we're looking at systemic treatment.
I think the hardest thing we went through last year was the ambiguity associated with Stage IV melanoma – it's a scary cancer, but what we have been slowly learning and are more accepting of now is that there is so much room for hope. You will see numbers indicating median survival of about a year with metastatic melanoma, but these really do have to be taken with a grain of salt, because there is so much variability and they often don't account for cutting edge treatments that are available. There are so many stories of people with Stage IV melanoma getting treatment and then living for decades and dying of other things.
So regarding the stats on survival – remember that your husband is an individual, not a statistic. They only mean so much and there is usually a lot more room for hope than they indicate.
There are brand new treatments, not yet FDA-approved, but still available to people through expanded access, with AMAZING outcomes! Which is why you need a melanoma specialist – treatment for this cancer is some of the newest medical technology out there. Sometimes surgery is a good first option, but if that is your recommendation, you can still get a second opinion from a melanoma specialist.
Hang in there. This is a journey (albeit a pretty sh*tty one), not a finish line.
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Rita, I'm sorry for what you and your husband are going through. I remember very vividly being in a similar position last year when my dad was found to have bilateral lung mets and lymph nodes and soft tissue neck mets. He had surgery, did fantastic for a year, and now with recurrence we're looking at systemic treatment.
I think the hardest thing we went through last year was the ambiguity associated with Stage IV melanoma – it's a scary cancer, but what we have been slowly learning and are more accepting of now is that there is so much room for hope. You will see numbers indicating median survival of about a year with metastatic melanoma, but these really do have to be taken with a grain of salt, because there is so much variability and they often don't account for cutting edge treatments that are available. There are so many stories of people with Stage IV melanoma getting treatment and then living for decades and dying of other things.
So regarding the stats on survival – remember that your husband is an individual, not a statistic. They only mean so much and there is usually a lot more room for hope than they indicate.
There are brand new treatments, not yet FDA-approved, but still available to people through expanded access, with AMAZING outcomes! Which is why you need a melanoma specialist – treatment for this cancer is some of the newest medical technology out there. Sometimes surgery is a good first option, but if that is your recommendation, you can still get a second opinion from a melanoma specialist.
Hang in there. This is a journey (albeit a pretty sh*tty one), not a finish line.
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Rita, I'm sorry for what you and your husband are going through. I remember very vividly being in a similar position last year when my dad was found to have bilateral lung mets and lymph nodes and soft tissue neck mets. He had surgery, did fantastic for a year, and now with recurrence we're looking at systemic treatment.
I think the hardest thing we went through last year was the ambiguity associated with Stage IV melanoma – it's a scary cancer, but what we have been slowly learning and are more accepting of now is that there is so much room for hope. You will see numbers indicating median survival of about a year with metastatic melanoma, but these really do have to be taken with a grain of salt, because there is so much variability and they often don't account for cutting edge treatments that are available. There are so many stories of people with Stage IV melanoma getting treatment and then living for decades and dying of other things.
So regarding the stats on survival – remember that your husband is an individual, not a statistic. They only mean so much and there is usually a lot more room for hope than they indicate.
There are brand new treatments, not yet FDA-approved, but still available to people through expanded access, with AMAZING outcomes! Which is why you need a melanoma specialist – treatment for this cancer is some of the newest medical technology out there. Sometimes surgery is a good first option, but if that is your recommendation, you can still get a second opinion from a melanoma specialist.
Hang in there. This is a journey (albeit a pretty sh*tty one), not a finish line.
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:57 pm
At stage 4 I'm suprised they aren't already talking more about the medicines. The newer fda approved meds are of two types. The gene targeted meds of tafinlar mekenist combo. But he has to be braf positive. The other type is immunotherapy like yervoy and if that doesn't work and he's braf negative or the braf failed there is the better immunotherapy of pd1. Either keytruda or opdivo.
There are also clinical trials.
ive been on all the meds I mentioned plus the older braf called zelboraf. All the meds have technically failed me. Some stuff keeps growing and sometimes new stuff shows up. Although finally keytruda did slow things down. So I'm still here and on the 21st of this month will be 2 years since diagnosis. Do I feel as good as I did 2 years ago? No. The disease and radiation and meds have all taken their toll. So in my opinion if you want to get away for awhile do so but include a visit to one of the big melanoma places like memorial Sloan Kettering in New York or md anderson in Houston. See the doc and take in the sites. That would be the getaway I recomend.
Artie
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:57 pm
At stage 4 I'm suprised they aren't already talking more about the medicines. The newer fda approved meds are of two types. The gene targeted meds of tafinlar mekenist combo. But he has to be braf positive. The other type is immunotherapy like yervoy and if that doesn't work and he's braf negative or the braf failed there is the better immunotherapy of pd1. Either keytruda or opdivo.
There are also clinical trials.
ive been on all the meds I mentioned plus the older braf called zelboraf. All the meds have technically failed me. Some stuff keeps growing and sometimes new stuff shows up. Although finally keytruda did slow things down. So I'm still here and on the 21st of this month will be 2 years since diagnosis. Do I feel as good as I did 2 years ago? No. The disease and radiation and meds have all taken their toll. So in my opinion if you want to get away for awhile do so but include a visit to one of the big melanoma places like memorial Sloan Kettering in New York or md anderson in Houston. See the doc and take in the sites. That would be the getaway I recomend.
Artie
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- June 18, 2015 at 11:16 pm
Rita & Charles,
I read you live in San Diego .
Dr. Daniels is a very experienced Melanoma Special at UC san Diego. I highly recommend that you at least get a second opinion from dr. Daniels before you make any final decision.
I have Stage 4 melanoma patient and I am NED because of Dr. Daniels.
Dr. Daniels is the BEST. You will love his bed side manner.
Her is a number to make an appointment 858-534-3804
Good Luck
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- June 18, 2015 at 11:16 pm
Rita & Charles,
I read you live in San Diego .
Dr. Daniels is a very experienced Melanoma Special at UC san Diego. I highly recommend that you at least get a second opinion from dr. Daniels before you make any final decision.
I have Stage 4 melanoma patient and I am NED because of Dr. Daniels.
Dr. Daniels is the BEST. You will love his bed side manner.
Her is a number to make an appointment 858-534-3804
Good Luck
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- June 18, 2015 at 11:16 pm
Rita & Charles,
I read you live in San Diego .
Dr. Daniels is a very experienced Melanoma Special at UC san Diego. I highly recommend that you at least get a second opinion from dr. Daniels before you make any final decision.
I have Stage 4 melanoma patient and I am NED because of Dr. Daniels.
Dr. Daniels is the BEST. You will love his bed side manner.
Her is a number to make an appointment 858-534-3804
Good Luck
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- June 17, 2015 at 2:57 pm
At stage 4 I'm suprised they aren't already talking more about the medicines. The newer fda approved meds are of two types. The gene targeted meds of tafinlar mekenist combo. But he has to be braf positive. The other type is immunotherapy like yervoy and if that doesn't work and he's braf negative or the braf failed there is the better immunotherapy of pd1. Either keytruda or opdivo.
There are also clinical trials.
ive been on all the meds I mentioned plus the older braf called zelboraf. All the meds have technically failed me. Some stuff keeps growing and sometimes new stuff shows up. Although finally keytruda did slow things down. So I'm still here and on the 21st of this month will be 2 years since diagnosis. Do I feel as good as I did 2 years ago? No. The disease and radiation and meds have all taken their toll. So in my opinion if you want to get away for awhile do so but include a visit to one of the big melanoma places like memorial Sloan Kettering in New York or md anderson in Houston. See the doc and take in the sites. That would be the getaway I recomend.
Artie
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