Has anyone tried Essiac?
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Has anyone tried Essiac?

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    • November 13, 2015 at 5:38 pm
    blessd4x
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    My husband is using it.  I dont know much about it and wonder if anyone has any experiences with it. 

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      • November 14, 2015 at 5:11 am
      AnitaLoree
      Participant

      Wikipedia has a complete article on Essiac herbal tea which is Caisse spelled backwards, the inventor of the concoction. Wikipedia also has a an entry: "List of ineffective cancer treatments" which includes warnings of those that can cause complications. A.L.

      • November 14, 2015 at 5:11 am
      AnitaLoree
      Participant

      Wikipedia has a complete article on Essiac herbal tea which is Caisse spelled backwards, the inventor of the concoction. Wikipedia also has a an entry: "List of ineffective cancer treatments" which includes warnings of those that can cause complications. A.L.

      • November 14, 2015 at 5:11 am
      AnitaLoree
      Participant

      Wikipedia has a complete article on Essiac herbal tea which is Caisse spelled backwards, the inventor of the concoction. Wikipedia also has a an entry: "List of ineffective cancer treatments" which includes warnings of those that can cause complications. A.L.

      • November 14, 2015 at 7:52 pm
      DZnDef
      Participant

      I haven't tried Essiac tea but I know lots of people swear by it.  To my knowledge it has not been subjected to clinical trials which means that it has not been scientifically proven to be effective.  That also means it has not been proven to be ineffective either.  So it is a scientific "unknown".  If it has not been proven harmful, then why not give it a try if he wants to?  All of those anecdotal stories might be on to something.

      • November 14, 2015 at 7:52 pm
      DZnDef
      Participant

      I haven't tried Essiac tea but I know lots of people swear by it.  To my knowledge it has not been subjected to clinical trials which means that it has not been scientifically proven to be effective.  That also means it has not been proven to be ineffective either.  So it is a scientific "unknown".  If it has not been proven harmful, then why not give it a try if he wants to?  All of those anecdotal stories might be on to something.

      • November 14, 2015 at 7:52 pm
      DZnDef
      Participant

      I haven't tried Essiac tea but I know lots of people swear by it.  To my knowledge it has not been subjected to clinical trials which means that it has not been scientifically proven to be effective.  That also means it has not been proven to be ineffective either.  So it is a scientific "unknown".  If it has not been proven harmful, then why not give it a try if he wants to?  All of those anecdotal stories might be on to something.

      • November 14, 2015 at 8:05 pm
      Janner
      Participant

      This describes the ingredients and what they do:

      http://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/Essiac.html

      This shows that Essiac Tea may be harmful to breast cancer patients and stimulate cancer growth:

      http://www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/essiac2.html

      According to MSKCC's Integrative medicine site:

      https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/essiac

      DO NOT TAKE:

      • You have kidney or liver problems.
      • You are undergoing chemotherapy (in a case report, levels of a chemotherapy drug were increased in the blood of a patient also taking Essiac, with the potential for increased toxicity.)

       

      • November 14, 2015 at 8:05 pm
      Janner
      Participant

      This describes the ingredients and what they do:

      http://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/Essiac.html

      This shows that Essiac Tea may be harmful to breast cancer patients and stimulate cancer growth:

      http://www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/essiac2.html

      According to MSKCC's Integrative medicine site:

      https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/essiac

      DO NOT TAKE:

      • You have kidney or liver problems.
      • You are undergoing chemotherapy (in a case report, levels of a chemotherapy drug were increased in the blood of a patient also taking Essiac, with the potential for increased toxicity.)

       

      • November 14, 2015 at 8:05 pm
      Janner
      Participant

      This describes the ingredients and what they do:

      http://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/Essiac.html

      This shows that Essiac Tea may be harmful to breast cancer patients and stimulate cancer growth:

      http://www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/essiac2.html

      According to MSKCC's Integrative medicine site:

      https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/essiac

      DO NOT TAKE:

      • You have kidney or liver problems.
      • You are undergoing chemotherapy (in a case report, levels of a chemotherapy drug were increased in the blood of a patient also taking Essiac, with the potential for increased toxicity.)

       

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:40 pm
        DZnDef
        Participant

        Thanks for the links, Anonymous.  It took me a while to read through them but they essentially all said what I already said:  Essiac has not been proven or disproven scientifically to be effective (or ineffective) against cancer.  As for the possible harms, there were so many caveats listed which essentially amounted to "we can't prove any harm".  Your last item seems contradictory to what conventional medicine is always saying "don't pay attention to individual case reports".  With all of the thousands of people taking Essiac tea, they found one patient that had a hard time, therefore, no one should take it?  Should we use that same standard when evaluating Yervoy?

        And while you chose to point out that it might be harmful to breast cancer patients, you neglected to point out that they also showed it stopped tumor growth in prostate cancer patients in the same links you posted.

        I don't know if Essiac tea works or not.  But I am suspicious of people that rabidly oppose it with no scientific evidence it is harmful.

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:40 pm
        DZnDef
        Participant

        Thanks for the links, Anonymous.  It took me a while to read through them but they essentially all said what I already said:  Essiac has not been proven or disproven scientifically to be effective (or ineffective) against cancer.  As for the possible harms, there were so many caveats listed which essentially amounted to "we can't prove any harm".  Your last item seems contradictory to what conventional medicine is always saying "don't pay attention to individual case reports".  With all of the thousands of people taking Essiac tea, they found one patient that had a hard time, therefore, no one should take it?  Should we use that same standard when evaluating Yervoy?

        And while you chose to point out that it might be harmful to breast cancer patients, you neglected to point out that they also showed it stopped tumor growth in prostate cancer patients in the same links you posted.

        I don't know if Essiac tea works or not.  But I am suspicious of people that rabidly oppose it with no scientific evidence it is harmful.

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:40 pm
        DZnDef
        Participant

        Thanks for the links, Anonymous.  It took me a while to read through them but they essentially all said what I already said:  Essiac has not been proven or disproven scientifically to be effective (or ineffective) against cancer.  As for the possible harms, there were so many caveats listed which essentially amounted to "we can't prove any harm".  Your last item seems contradictory to what conventional medicine is always saying "don't pay attention to individual case reports".  With all of the thousands of people taking Essiac tea, they found one patient that had a hard time, therefore, no one should take it?  Should we use that same standard when evaluating Yervoy?

        And while you chose to point out that it might be harmful to breast cancer patients, you neglected to point out that they also showed it stopped tumor growth in prostate cancer patients in the same links you posted.

        I don't know if Essiac tea works or not.  But I am suspicious of people that rabidly oppose it with no scientific evidence it is harmful.

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:44 pm
        DZnDef
        Participant

        Correction to my post – per the MSK link, testing showed Essiac stopped growth of prostate cancer cells (not tumors in patients).

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:44 pm
        DZnDef
        Participant

        Correction to my post – per the MSK link, testing showed Essiac stopped growth of prostate cancer cells (not tumors in patients).

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:44 pm
        DZnDef
        Participant

        Correction to my post – per the MSK link, testing showed Essiac stopped growth of prostate cancer cells (not tumors in patients).

      • November 17, 2015 at 12:01 am
      geriakt
      Participant

      I have tried the tea. Taste is good. I had to stop drinking it during my clinical trial treatment. 

      I asked my Dr about canibis oil and Essic and he told me I should do what I want with my body but said I should try the opdivo and yervoy first. 

      • November 17, 2015 at 12:01 am
      geriakt
      Participant

      I have tried the tea. Taste is good. I had to stop drinking it during my clinical trial treatment. 

      I asked my Dr about canibis oil and Essic and he told me I should do what I want with my body but said I should try the opdivo and yervoy first. 

      • November 17, 2015 at 12:01 am
      geriakt
      Participant

      I have tried the tea. Taste is good. I had to stop drinking it during my clinical trial treatment. 

      I asked my Dr about canibis oil and Essic and he told me I should do what I want with my body but said I should try the opdivo and yervoy first. 

        • December 3, 2015 at 7:00 pm
        blessd4x
        Participant

        thank you everyone for your comments.  My husband is doing the essiac with the Opdivo treadments.  One person said not to use both due to toxicity.  Ill do more research on that!

         

        thank you!

        • December 3, 2015 at 7:00 pm
        blessd4x
        Participant

        thank you everyone for your comments.  My husband is doing the essiac with the Opdivo treadments.  One person said not to use both due to toxicity.  Ill do more research on that!

         

        thank you!

        • December 3, 2015 at 7:00 pm
        blessd4x
        Participant

        thank you everyone for your comments.  My husband is doing the essiac with the Opdivo treadments.  One person said not to use both due to toxicity.  Ill do more research on that!

         

        thank you!

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