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As if one faggy little dog weren’t enough,

Forums General Melanoma Community As if one faggy little dog weren’t enough,

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    jag
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    Now there are 2.

    Merry made the executive decision on this one.

    Since she picked the first dog we got together, I was supposed to be able to pick the second one.

    Her rationale:  2 Cavalier King Charles Spaniels still eats less than a normal dog.

    In order to protect the 2 little rodents (you can see the hawks circling when these things are outside)

    Now there are 2.

    Merry made the executive decision on this one.

    Since she picked the first dog we got together, I was supposed to be able to pick the second one.

    Her rationale:  2 Cavalier King Charles Spaniels still eats less than a normal dog.

    In order to protect the 2 little rodents (you can see the hawks circling when these things are outside)

    I have enlisted the help of the Elisbeth Salander of the dog world if you will.

     

    "Beckett" a 7-8 month old female spayed Border Collie-my dream dog.

    Not only will she fight off circling hawks.  She will also herd the 2 rodents back into the house (and hopefully not kill the neighbors cat in broad daylight.)

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      TinaR
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      Do they smell? The only thing worse than one smelly dog would be two smelly dogs. They're cute, but do they have…the odor?

      Oh, and speaking of stinky dogs, my ugly dog has a big black scab thing on her back … right above her tail in what looks like a place she couldn't have created it herself. . Of course, I think it's Melanoma, everyone else thinks she bit herself or something else bit her. I vote to take her to the VET, everyone else says wait. I have no choice but to go along… the last time I insisted we take one of the pets to the Vet ( Avian and $250 dollars for thyroid ? &lab testing ) they said the bird would be dead in less than two weeks. That was six or more months ago and that little shit is STILL sticking her feathery butt out of the cage bars and crapping on my tile floor. 

      Congratulations on your fragrant addition to the family.

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        jag
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        big black scabs eh? most likely diagnosis would be fleas, bedbugs, or stinkbugs,  Glad to hear that Birdie is still alive.  I can never believe why people bring those things to see me.  I just look it up on google or youtube and see if there is anything worth doing.  If even the "specialist" couldn't figure it out, was it really a specialist? I'm glad I didn't chime in with any dumb advice. Post a picture of it though.  Black scabs on a dog could be anything.  My paypal address is [email protected].  My fee is only $249-doesn't include labwork though.  

         

        Oh wait, doesn't your dog bite?  make that $400, and no I am not trimming her nails, or expressing her anal sacs.

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        TinaR
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        Oh, I bet you're glad I'm wiping up green bird goop multiple times a day. I'm not looking for vet advice or care, I'm attempting to  bond on common ground….discussing black scabs and anal sacs makes me feel so much closer to you. This is my best effort and quite a stretch from my usual bag of discussion tricks. 

        Leaky anal sacs…aiy aiy aiy…and people wonder why I don't care for animals up close and personal…ick.

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        Bonnie Lea
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        Oh Rox that is a hoot.  (or a poop)    cats have them too!  when our ArCee (black one) first met the vet, she literally sprayed evil foul stuff about.  they just casually got some spray, and a heavy duty disenfectant cloth and wiped things down.  Now kitty has been back many times for annual wellness checks and needles, and NOPE never a repeat.  She sits there, and allows the vet to just pet her, for the whole visit whilst he is talking to us.  Her coat is like silk unlike any other kitty fur I have experienced.

        Your money was well spent on birdie.  I would do the same.  In fact we had a dear little pet rat, who developed a malignant tumour on her throat, and the only thing was to have her put to sleep.  We took her (rat yes I know) to our vet, who injected her immed and even though we all were blubbering away…. he totally understood.  NO CHARGE.    After a proper 12 months for our dotter to 'not go to that well known….'disposable pet' syndrome she chose another rattus finkus.  a tiny wee blonde one, like Johns doggies colour (light tan)  solid colour.  Her name was Lucinda and She used to sit on my shoulder whilsst I vaccumed.  One day she stopped living.  But died peace like.  and we buried her by the other one, from two years previously.

         

        With horror this past June when our back yard needed major repairs to a retaining wall,  sure enuff they dug up the coffins  but we did not peer inside, but only reburied them elsewhere.  It had been oh now about 16 years so it was only the bits of fluffy cardboard.  But it made us take out the pictures of those two cuties.  Now we have the kitties and I always worry about our older one, snoozing in the window, getting sunburned on her pink nose or ears.  But I just stop thinking that way. Orelse I would not be able to traipse through the house, thinking UV was going to 'get me' 

        Put some polysporin or VIT E oil on the scabby thing.  wait a couple of days, check it out, and then by all means take the dog to the vet ta hell with what others say.   Don't pay attention to John.  stink bugs and bedbugs would not do that, but maybe fleas would if the dog developed an allergy to them.  (our dog did eons ago)

        Leaky anal sacs and stuff?  damn good thing you were not with me yesterday during a STUPID STUPID STUPID test I had to undergo. 

         

        LUFF Bonnie

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        TinaR
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        Yes, we've been adding that antibiotic ointment to the dog. I hope it's not fleas…she has't been scratching that I know ( but I admit to not watching her much ;) It's the job of the people who interact with her to keep me up to date on issues that come up…I just feed, bathe and let her in and out all day and night .

         

        thanks bonnie…the test sounds gruesome and not like something you'd want to share or we would enjoy hearing about!

         

        R

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        TinaR
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        Yes, we've been adding that antibiotic ointment to the dog. I hope it's not fleas…she has't been scratching that I know ( but I admit to not watching her much ;) It's the job of the people who interact with her to keep me up to date on issues that come up…I just feed, bathe and let her in and out all day and night .

         

        thanks bonnie…the test sounds gruesome and not like something you'd want to share or we would enjoy hearing about!

         

        R

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        dian in spokane
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        Hey bonnie.. do the Vets in Canada make more money than the doctors? By that I guess I mean..do your pets have a standardized health care program ? Is there socialized medicene for animals in canada or do the Vets make up for what the Docs lose b charging a fortune?

        I know here, I pay as much for my darned cats visits to the vet as I do for my own visits to the doctors.

        And how about the exterminators? Maybe your Vet thought you should be taking that rat to the exterminators …

        I understand how cute they can be though, when I was a teenager, I had a pair of rats…unfortunately, steve and I killed those ourselves by accident when we were moving to another state and put them in the back of the U Haul in their cage. When we got out later to check their water they had expired. Cooked back there no doubt.

        But..I'm thinking we just wrapped them up in newpapers and put them in a cardboard box and dropped them in a nearby dumpster…no gravesite service..

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        Bonnie Lea
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        There are some private  insurances, but non that our government pay for!  yes they prob do make more money than our doctors who are under a guided system.  example is  it cost me $350.00 for Chloe Cat to have her teeth cleaned, as she was getting gum diseaase like all domesticated pets as they age.  Then the drugs for antibiotic were half the price of the SAME stuff say I would get for myself.

        So drugs for animals, cheaper than drugs for us.  (in some cases)  Cost us nothing for us to get 'spayed'  but a couple of hundred for a cat.

        I asked one of our vets years ago, why the descrepancy in costs?  He said   Medical Doctors have tax shelter for overhead, like none o f the equiptment  (tables, and all surgical stuffs eetc etc)  are taxable, whereas in Veterinary practice it would be like if I myself went out to buy a O.R. table that type of thing.

        No the Vet was misty eyed at the care we showed for our dying Skeeter Rat.  He said he wished more people cared about pets they bring into their homes.  Not just dump and stuff.  Heck even my MOTHER said  how stupid to do this, in her day one would WRING ITS NECK.  course I could not ever do that.  I even remove spiders alive, kill mosquitoes and try to kill flies, but other bugs,  usually end up outside somehow.

        Dunno bout these stink bugs.  I have seen pictures of them, but non in real life.  We did have a infestation last two years of those Asian Beetles (sort of like Lady Bugs only these were more orange than reddish, and when they succumed to what ever, they stunk.

        I am so lucky not to pay to go to the doctor or the hospital or for tests.  Only thing I can think of that we pay for is Bob's annual PSA blood test, ($35.00)  Only thing I have paid for whilsst a inpatient was if I wanted a television.  We are lucky but then that is all we have known. so the extra huge personal taxes levied, have always been happening, and Ii do not fork out any from pocket.

        Drugs (unless you have a drug plan) are costly.  (we do not have drug plan, but of course can save the reciepts and deduct off our income tax each year, along with other over board medical costs.  Eye exams (vision) are not paid for unless you are over 65 little things like that but they are do-able.  If I had to do any cancer drugs, I would simply apply for govt cost care.

        I have also had many many weeks over the past two years, of home nursing wound care, at no cost, supplies included. And of course I can choose which doctor I wish to be referred to if I am referred via my family doctor.

         

        I prob would be a lousy vet in the business aspect, as I would be free! and that would be the ruin of me.  Our vet also cuts the back nails of one of our cats, no charge….since I have the Breast Cancer crap , as he knows she would attack me.  (cat)  But I have only asked for this once.    Course this is the cat that he loves to pet for hours as he talks of his two daughters who are also becomming vets. hahah

         

        Love Bonnie

         

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        Bonnie Lea
        Participant

        There are some private  insurances, but non that our government pay for!  yes they prob do make more money than our doctors who are under a guided system.  example is  it cost me $350.00 for Chloe Cat to have her teeth cleaned, as she was getting gum diseaase like all domesticated pets as they age.  Then the drugs for antibiotic were half the price of the SAME stuff say I would get for myself.

        So drugs for animals, cheaper than drugs for us.  (in some cases)  Cost us nothing for us to get 'spayed'  but a couple of hundred for a cat.

        I asked one of our vets years ago, why the descrepancy in costs?  He said   Medical Doctors have tax shelter for overhead, like none o f the equiptment  (tables, and all surgical stuffs eetc etc)  are taxable, whereas in Veterinary practice it would be like if I myself went out to buy a O.R. table that type of thing.

        No the Vet was misty eyed at the care we showed for our dying Skeeter Rat.  He said he wished more people cared about pets they bring into their homes.  Not just dump and stuff.  Heck even my MOTHER said  how stupid to do this, in her day one would WRING ITS NECK.  course I could not ever do that.  I even remove spiders alive, kill mosquitoes and try to kill flies, but other bugs,  usually end up outside somehow.

        Dunno bout these stink bugs.  I have seen pictures of them, but non in real life.  We did have a infestation last two years of those Asian Beetles (sort of like Lady Bugs only these were more orange than reddish, and when they succumed to what ever, they stunk.

        I am so lucky not to pay to go to the doctor or the hospital or for tests.  Only thing I can think of that we pay for is Bob's annual PSA blood test, ($35.00)  Only thing I have paid for whilsst a inpatient was if I wanted a television.  We are lucky but then that is all we have known. so the extra huge personal taxes levied, have always been happening, and Ii do not fork out any from pocket.

        Drugs (unless you have a drug plan) are costly.  (we do not have drug plan, but of course can save the reciepts and deduct off our income tax each year, along with other over board medical costs.  Eye exams (vision) are not paid for unless you are over 65 little things like that but they are do-able.  If I had to do any cancer drugs, I would simply apply for govt cost care.

        I have also had many many weeks over the past two years, of home nursing wound care, at no cost, supplies included. And of course I can choose which doctor I wish to be referred to if I am referred via my family doctor.

         

        I prob would be a lousy vet in the business aspect, as I would be free! and that would be the ruin of me.  Our vet also cuts the back nails of one of our cats, no charge….since I have the Breast Cancer crap , as he knows she would attack me.  (cat)  But I have only asked for this once.    Course this is the cat that he loves to pet for hours as he talks of his two daughters who are also becomming vets. hahah

         

        Love Bonnie

         

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        jag
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        Thats funny, most idiots have the same philosophy as you, only they don't take into account the amount of money they pay for insurance or how much their insurance pays for their treatments.  Did you just add up the co-pays to come up with this number?  If not, then it sounds like you have somehow afforded Dr. HIram Baker from Little House on the Prairie.  I bet he will even fix you up for a couple of chickens and a pumpkin pie out on the window sill-he still working in Spokane?.  As stupid as universal health care is, I doubt there are many veterinarians who would be upset to have it.  

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        dian in spokane
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        John, I'm afraid I'm confused. Are you addressing me? or Bonnie? I didn't state any philosophy..so what idiots and what philosophy are you referring to? And what co pays and what numbers? I assume you are addressing ME, since you reference spokane, but since nothing you say relates to anything I said in my post I'm just left to think you have been doing too many drugs today..

        I have nothing against paying my vets, or my doctors…what is all this about chickens and pies??

        what on earthg are you talking about?

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        dian in spokane
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        John, I'm afraid I'm confused. Are you addressing me? or Bonnie? I didn't state any philosophy..so what idiots and what philosophy are you referring to? And what co pays and what numbers? I assume you are addressing ME, since you reference spokane, but since nothing you say relates to anything I said in my post I'm just left to think you have been doing too many drugs today..

        I have nothing against paying my vets, or my doctors…what is all this about chickens and pies??

        what on earthg are you talking about?

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        jag
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        Why Ole Doc Baker from Little House of course, he birthed nearly half the town, and made it to church on Sunday and it didn't cost the town folk a cent. (still confused as to how he afforded that fancy suit-but that is another story).  I am definitely addressing you Dian, directly, not Bonnie, she isn't as clueless.  Do me a favor and lay off of the Scotch,try to keep up with the plot, quit whining about your vet bills with the cat  and implying that with socialized medicine, the truth about how rich veterinarians actually are will be unsurfaced.  That is clearly the dumbest thing you have said yet.  Oh yeah, go work on your grammer.

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        Why Ole Doc Baker from Little House of course, he birthed nearly half the town, and made it to church on Sunday and it didn't cost the town folk a cent. (still confused as to how he afforded that fancy suit-but that is another story).  I am definitely addressing you Dian, directly, not Bonnie, she isn't as clueless.  Do me a favor and lay off of the Scotch,try to keep up with the plot, quit whining about your vet bills with the cat  and implying that with socialized medicine, the truth about how rich veterinarians actually are will be unsurfaced.  That is clearly the dumbest thing you have said yet.  Oh yeah, go work on your grammer.

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        dian in spokane
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        good grief John. I did NOT whine about my Vet bills. I LIKE My Vet..sometimes more than I like any of my doctors.

        And my questions to Bonnie were honest…since I'm curious, and it seems to me that in Canada, it might be more financially advantageous to be a Vet than an MD. Makes sense to me.

        It's not like I think either Vets or MDs are getting rich in Canada or the US. I have a great deal of respect for both MDs and Vets. It's sports figures and celebrities who get rich in our society, not docs..either human or animal docs

        You misunderstand me, or maybe you are just of nutbag, which should come as no surprise to me.

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        dian in spokane
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        good grief John. I did NOT whine about my Vet bills. I LIKE My Vet..sometimes more than I like any of my doctors.

        And my questions to Bonnie were honest…since I'm curious, and it seems to me that in Canada, it might be more financially advantageous to be a Vet than an MD. Makes sense to me.

        It's not like I think either Vets or MDs are getting rich in Canada or the US. I have a great deal of respect for both MDs and Vets. It's sports figures and celebrities who get rich in our society, not docs..either human or animal docs

        You misunderstand me, or maybe you are just of nutbag, which should come as no surprise to me.

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        jag
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        Well Dian, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you.  As I am sure your husband understands, Gingers can be hard to figure out.

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        jag
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        Well Dian, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you.  As I am sure your husband understands, Gingers can be hard to figure out.

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        Bonnie Lea
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        I was given a huge box of photocopy paper.  I began to bring a pack to my doctor as I am never charged for photocopies there  (other places yes)  so I just joke with her, tell her I ran out of chickens to pay her with.

         

        Never thought of pumpkin pies  hmmmm.  Course she has been my doc for 50 years now.  and wants so much to retire, but works a few days here and there, for her crazy ones (me being one) 

        I think the Olsen's gave old Doc Baker that suit, what about Dr. Quinn, but then again back then wimmin made their clothes I guess.  But Charles and Caroline used to try to pay him cash, but once gave him a big jug of buttermilk!

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        Bonnie Lea
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        I was given a huge box of photocopy paper.  I began to bring a pack to my doctor as I am never charged for photocopies there  (other places yes)  so I just joke with her, tell her I ran out of chickens to pay her with.

         

        Never thought of pumpkin pies  hmmmm.  Course she has been my doc for 50 years now.  and wants so much to retire, but works a few days here and there, for her crazy ones (me being one) 

        I think the Olsen's gave old Doc Baker that suit, what about Dr. Quinn, but then again back then wimmin made their clothes I guess.  But Charles and Caroline used to try to pay him cash, but once gave him a big jug of buttermilk!

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        jag
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        Thats funny, most idiots have the same philosophy as you, only they don't take into account the amount of money they pay for insurance or how much their insurance pays for their treatments.  Did you just add up the co-pays to come up with this number?  If not, then it sounds like you have somehow afforded Dr. HIram Baker from Little House on the Prairie.  I bet he will even fix you up for a couple of chickens and a pumpkin pie out on the window sill-he still working in Spokane?.  As stupid as universal health care is, I doubt there are many veterinarians who would be upset to have it.  

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        dian in spokane
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        Hey bonnie.. do the Vets in Canada make more money than the doctors? By that I guess I mean..do your pets have a standardized health care program ? Is there socialized medicene for animals in canada or do the Vets make up for what the Docs lose b charging a fortune?

        I know here, I pay as much for my darned cats visits to the vet as I do for my own visits to the doctors.

        And how about the exterminators? Maybe your Vet thought you should be taking that rat to the exterminators …

        I understand how cute they can be though, when I was a teenager, I had a pair of rats…unfortunately, steve and I killed those ourselves by accident when we were moving to another state and put them in the back of the U Haul in their cage. When we got out later to check their water they had expired. Cooked back there no doubt.

        But..I'm thinking we just wrapped them up in newpapers and put them in a cardboard box and dropped them in a nearby dumpster…no gravesite service..

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        Bonnie Lea
        Participant

        Oh Rox that is a hoot.  (or a poop)    cats have them too!  when our ArCee (black one) first met the vet, she literally sprayed evil foul stuff about.  they just casually got some spray, and a heavy duty disenfectant cloth and wiped things down.  Now kitty has been back many times for annual wellness checks and needles, and NOPE never a repeat.  She sits there, and allows the vet to just pet her, for the whole visit whilst he is talking to us.  Her coat is like silk unlike any other kitty fur I have experienced.

        Your money was well spent on birdie.  I would do the same.  In fact we had a dear little pet rat, who developed a malignant tumour on her throat, and the only thing was to have her put to sleep.  We took her (rat yes I know) to our vet, who injected her immed and even though we all were blubbering away…. he totally understood.  NO CHARGE.    After a proper 12 months for our dotter to 'not go to that well known….'disposable pet' syndrome she chose another rattus finkus.  a tiny wee blonde one, like Johns doggies colour (light tan)  solid colour.  Her name was Lucinda and She used to sit on my shoulder whilsst I vaccumed.  One day she stopped living.  But died peace like.  and we buried her by the other one, from two years previously.

         

        With horror this past June when our back yard needed major repairs to a retaining wall,  sure enuff they dug up the coffins  but we did not peer inside, but only reburied them elsewhere.  It had been oh now about 16 years so it was only the bits of fluffy cardboard.  But it made us take out the pictures of those two cuties.  Now we have the kitties and I always worry about our older one, snoozing in the window, getting sunburned on her pink nose or ears.  But I just stop thinking that way. Orelse I would not be able to traipse through the house, thinking UV was going to 'get me' 

        Put some polysporin or VIT E oil on the scabby thing.  wait a couple of days, check it out, and then by all means take the dog to the vet ta hell with what others say.   Don't pay attention to John.  stink bugs and bedbugs would not do that, but maybe fleas would if the dog developed an allergy to them.  (our dog did eons ago)

        Leaky anal sacs and stuff?  damn good thing you were not with me yesterday during a STUPID STUPID STUPID test I had to undergo. 

         

        LUFF Bonnie

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        jag
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        Ha, I knew there was an underlying reason for your dog smelling.  The key thing is to bring them to the vet when you first see them.  Then the house won't stink.  What may seem like shit to you, is my bread and butter.

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        Yawn
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        I'm a huge fan of yours. I post between the main board and this one and I see you helping people all the time. The reason I'm a fan is that you're as offensive and gross as they come but you also have a huge heart.

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        jag
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        Really? that's sad.  I suppose Anonymous posters are always to be trusted-carry on do gooder. 

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        Yawn
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        "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a difficult battle "

                                                                               -Plato-

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        jag
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        Sure you do.

         

         

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        jag
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        Sure you do.

         

         

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        Yawn
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        "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a difficult battle "

                                                                               -Plato-

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        jag
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        Really? that's sad.  I suppose Anonymous posters are always to be trusted-carry on do gooder. 

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        Yawn
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        I'm a huge fan of yours. I post between the main board and this one and I see you helping people all the time. The reason I'm a fan is that you're as offensive and gross as they come but you also have a huge heart.

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        TinaR
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        No, I make sure we take her whenever I get the inkling there is something going on in that department. I just can't stand smelly animals… I have a highly developed sense of smell. I should have gone into the perfume creation business.

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        TinaR
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        No, I make sure we take her whenever I get the inkling there is something going on in that department. I just can't stand smelly animals… I have a highly developed sense of smell. I should have gone into the perfume creation business.

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        jag
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        Ha, I knew there was an underlying reason for your dog smelling.  The key thing is to bring them to the vet when you first see them.  Then the house won't stink.  What may seem like shit to you, is my bread and butter.

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        TinaR
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        Oh, I bet you're glad I'm wiping up green bird goop multiple times a day. I'm not looking for vet advice or care, I'm attempting to  bond on common ground….discussing black scabs and anal sacs makes me feel so much closer to you. This is my best effort and quite a stretch from my usual bag of discussion tricks. 

        Leaky anal sacs…aiy aiy aiy…and people wonder why I don't care for animals up close and personal…ick.

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        Bonnie Lea
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        Oh Joe, John, Dr. John whomever

        they are adorable.  I did not know if you really have gotten your mitts on Beckett.  She will def keep the two wee ones in line and protect them from the circling vultures.  (now now  spaniel hawks are rare)  turkey vultures hmmmm  But remember what I said about running with the hounds.  Be prepared to be crossed in front of, and most likely you will end up taking a face plant. 

        What is HER NAME  got to match with Biscuit somehow.  Triscuit? Miss-Kitt?  she prob has a regal name, like HRH —– and def never a faggy dog. 

        Bonnie

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        Bonnie, with my bum left foot and missing lung, I don't really run with the hounds, as for naming it, we haven't really come to a consensus over anything, there are already 2 B sounding names.  The key problem is that dogs need a simple short name to associate themselves with.  We were thinking of buttercup, because Butter does go with Biscuit, Gravy wouldn't do, Tea is a bit odd, and Scones? well isn't she faggy enough?  We might settle on Tinkerbell.  Or stinkersmell as I like to say-Roxanne can be right about somethings as much as I hate to admit it.  I am sorry about the loss of your rats though.  I have never had one, but most people don't realize how good a pet they can be.  Unfortunately they have a history of living among bums in the subway system and scavenging, oh and then there was the plague.  Can't forget the plague. 

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        Bonnie Lea
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        well, ok then I have two bum feet.  One more bummy now than the other.  But ya you got me with the missing lung.  HMM but you can ALWAYS  get thyself a segway?  and if Beckett crosses you, well, lets hope you have control of the rolly thing.

         

        Rats up here   DONT CARRY NO PLAGUE!  bubonic, or what ever.  Canadian ratus finkus well they are nice, if gotten from a reputable family birthing centre, or a nice pet store .  Or in the case of Skeeter first one)  she came to us, when we moved from out in the rural area where my kids attended a teeny school, and her grade 7 teacher gave her this rattus.  (it was already 3 years old)  typical life span.  So I agreed to take her home with us when school was finished, and Jennifer was going to a new school that fall.

         

        have you ever watched  LED SHEEP on youtube?  MAGICAL and they show the collies as well.    NO not tinkerbell, she was a fairy who entered into the bedrooms of leetle cheeldren when they were sleeping, and caused that fairy dust to gather in their eyes, and make for SCARWEE dweems.  of alarm clocks, hooks, and ships  not to mention weird little never grow up boys.

        FLOWER?   (ie biscuit, flour, so call her FLOWER  that is easy for a doggy to hear.  YEP  (or Devon) for devonshire cream on said scones.

         

        LUFF B.

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        well, ok then I have two bum feet.  One more bummy now than the other.  But ya you got me with the missing lung.  HMM but you can ALWAYS  get thyself a segway?  and if Beckett crosses you, well, lets hope you have control of the rolly thing.

         

        Rats up here   DONT CARRY NO PLAGUE!  bubonic, or what ever.  Canadian ratus finkus well they are nice, if gotten from a reputable family birthing centre, or a nice pet store .  Or in the case of Skeeter first one)  she came to us, when we moved from out in the rural area where my kids attended a teeny school, and her grade 7 teacher gave her this rattus.  (it was already 3 years old)  typical life span.  So I agreed to take her home with us when school was finished, and Jennifer was going to a new school that fall.

         

        have you ever watched  LED SHEEP on youtube?  MAGICAL and they show the collies as well.    NO not tinkerbell, she was a fairy who entered into the bedrooms of leetle cheeldren when they were sleeping, and caused that fairy dust to gather in their eyes, and make for SCARWEE dweems.  of alarm clocks, hooks, and ships  not to mention weird little never grow up boys.

        FLOWER?   (ie biscuit, flour, so call her FLOWER  that is easy for a doggy to hear.  YEP  (or Devon) for devonshire cream on said scones.

         

        LUFF B.

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        dian in spokane
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        forget all the butterfly, bisquit, beautybee names.

        you should call that dog Elvis

        looks like an elvis to me

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        Bonnie Lea
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        Elvis-ette?  Oh I know   when spayed or neutered they become non genderized?  she is a delicate sweety looking flower a good friend for Biscuit.  and all watched over by Beckett and her herding I can see it now.  In the back garden, two wee spaniels tripping over their ears one day, and being hustled into the house, when ever a overhead chicken hawk (or maybe cos it is almost like New York, a GIANT PIGEON!

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        Elvis-ette?  Oh I know   when spayed or neutered they become non genderized?  she is a delicate sweety looking flower a good friend for Biscuit.  and all watched over by Beckett and her herding I can see it now.  In the back garden, two wee spaniels tripping over their ears one day, and being hustled into the house, when ever a overhead chicken hawk (or maybe cos it is almost like New York, a GIANT PIGEON!

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        forget all the butterfly, bisquit, beautybee names.

        you should call that dog Elvis

        looks like an elvis to me

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        jag
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        Bonnie, with my bum left foot and missing lung, I don't really run with the hounds, as for naming it, we haven't really come to a consensus over anything, there are already 2 B sounding names.  The key problem is that dogs need a simple short name to associate themselves with.  We were thinking of buttercup, because Butter does go with Biscuit, Gravy wouldn't do, Tea is a bit odd, and Scones? well isn't she faggy enough?  We might settle on Tinkerbell.  Or stinkersmell as I like to say-Roxanne can be right about somethings as much as I hate to admit it.  I am sorry about the loss of your rats though.  I have never had one, but most people don't realize how good a pet they can be.  Unfortunately they have a history of living among bums in the subway system and scavenging, oh and then there was the plague.  Can't forget the plague. 

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        Oh Joe, John, Dr. John whomever

        they are adorable.  I did not know if you really have gotten your mitts on Beckett.  She will def keep the two wee ones in line and protect them from the circling vultures.  (now now  spaniel hawks are rare)  turkey vultures hmmmm  But remember what I said about running with the hounds.  Be prepared to be crossed in front of, and most likely you will end up taking a face plant. 

        What is HER NAME  got to match with Biscuit somehow.  Triscuit? Miss-Kitt?  she prob has a regal name, like HRH —– and def never a faggy dog. 

        Bonnie

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        Well..IF you WERE a good friend/vet…you would have warned me about the anal sacs….the consequences of doing the hair cuts to save money..and NOT expressing them. That could have saved me a small fortune on anesthesia when the damn clogged sac (what average person KNOWS  about that!?!) got clogged and needed to be lanced. Not to mention the antibiotics and pain killers he needed. To top off the financial set back…I had to carry him like a baby on my shoulder for 3 days! What else do I not know? Don't start on the undecended testicle again…I'm working on it! It's a good thing he totally adores me.

        Marie

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        Well..IF you WERE a good friend/vet…you would have warned me about the anal sacs….the consequences of doing the hair cuts to save money..and NOT expressing them. That could have saved me a small fortune on anesthesia when the damn clogged sac (what average person KNOWS  about that!?!) got clogged and needed to be lanced. Not to mention the antibiotics and pain killers he needed. To top off the financial set back…I had to carry him like a baby on my shoulder for 3 days! What else do I not know? Don't start on the undecended testicle again…I'm working on it! It's a good thing he totally adores me.

        Marie

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        jag
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        big black scabs eh? most likely diagnosis would be fleas, bedbugs, or stinkbugs,  Glad to hear that Birdie is still alive.  I can never believe why people bring those things to see me.  I just look it up on google or youtube and see if there is anything worth doing.  If even the "specialist" couldn't figure it out, was it really a specialist? I'm glad I didn't chime in with any dumb advice. Post a picture of it though.  Black scabs on a dog could be anything.  My paypal address is [email protected].  My fee is only $249-doesn't include labwork though.  

         

        Oh wait, doesn't your dog bite?  make that $400, and no I am not trimming her nails, or expressing her anal sacs.

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      Do they smell? The only thing worse than one smelly dog would be two smelly dogs. They're cute, but do they have…the odor?

      Oh, and speaking of stinky dogs, my ugly dog has a big black scab thing on her back … right above her tail in what looks like a place she couldn't have created it herself. . Of course, I think it's Melanoma, everyone else thinks she bit herself or something else bit her. I vote to take her to the VET, everyone else says wait. I have no choice but to go along… the last time I insisted we take one of the pets to the Vet ( Avian and $250 dollars for thyroid ? &lab testing ) they said the bird would be dead in less than two weeks. That was six or more months ago and that little shit is STILL sticking her feathery butt out of the cage bars and crapping on my tile floor. 

      Congratulations on your fragrant addition to the family.

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      Wait…I'm confused. Do you have 2 Spaniels AND a Collie?? I worry about circling hawks too. Don't turn your head for a minute. I suspect they are faster than any Collie. And stop calling your little dogs rodents. My son Chris does that..I HATE it! (They are all beautiful…congrats!)

      Marie

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        Uh, that would be 2 rodents and a collie.  Don't complain to me about all of your Yorkie's problems, people should read up on their breeds before getting them.  Get that testicle taken care of soon.  I will not address anything further with you and your rodent, until said cryptorchidism is addressed. .  And yes Border collies can do anything.  They are uber dog.  They use them to herd geese off of golf courses and away from airport runways.  

         

        Check out Dazzle

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        Bonnie Lea
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        Did you check out the LED sheep on YOU TUBE?   I watched a story on TV years ago about a American Lady who was hired by one of the golf courses up here, to train a border collie to herd the geese, and into the POND.  Since these breeds dont really dig swimming it was a hard feat but she did it.  It was amazing.

        Our Muffin Dog, border collie mix lab. could NOT swim.  In fact we did not know this, and we all were swimming in our pond (in the country area where we lived)  and Muffin who was very terrified being around water (though we had her since she was 8 weeks old) so I know nothing happened to her.  However, she fell off the dock after we carried her on it, and she sank.  I had to dive deep into the 14 foot water, and pull her to the surface.  From then on we never forced her near anything.  It was hard when we all went camping.

        The dog shivered and shook and became very upset as our spot then was right on the water front.  We took one of our cats (back then) and even though she was a indoor kitty, I tied a length of seam binding to her collar and she thought she was tied up.

        she loved camping (the cat)  doggy not so much.

         

        ah them were the days.

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        Sure did Bonnie, need I say more about this dog?

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        yes considered one of the highly intelligent dogs.  But all working which to them is play.  I have always been in love with Border Collies.  Used to be you could not get one, unless you had a sheep farm, I think I remember something like that, or that they were not available in N.A.  something is vague in my mind regarding that.

         

        I adore my vets, all of them over the years.  Any one who puts up with patients who do not reason, and use teeth and nails to get their displeasure known, or yeah dumping anal gland contents in a smelly spew.  A medical doctor would simply refuse to treat you.  Never known a vet to not want a challenge.  (but its hard, knowing you must anesthatize just to clean teeth.  Hey maybe we should get that when we go to the dentist. 

        Most places stopped the use of "laughing gas" here, due to the effects and health problems for the staff over the years.  Alas!

        To me vets are one of the best professions.  I always wanted to be one.  But was told early in my life (grade8) that I def was not 'smart enough'  so I became a payroll supervisor hahaha

         

        Thankyou John for posting the video.  I am soooo amazed everytime I watch it, and even though I know of the few little bits of technology help they had, close to 90+% is for real.

        SMART DOGS

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        yes considered one of the highly intelligent dogs.  But all working which to them is play.  I have always been in love with Border Collies.  Used to be you could not get one, unless you had a sheep farm, I think I remember something like that, or that they were not available in N.A.  something is vague in my mind regarding that.

         

        I adore my vets, all of them over the years.  Any one who puts up with patients who do not reason, and use teeth and nails to get their displeasure known, or yeah dumping anal gland contents in a smelly spew.  A medical doctor would simply refuse to treat you.  Never known a vet to not want a challenge.  (but its hard, knowing you must anesthatize just to clean teeth.  Hey maybe we should get that when we go to the dentist. 

        Most places stopped the use of "laughing gas" here, due to the effects and health problems for the staff over the years.  Alas!

        To me vets are one of the best professions.  I always wanted to be one.  But was told early in my life (grade8) that I def was not 'smart enough'  so I became a payroll supervisor hahaha

         

        Thankyou John for posting the video.  I am soooo amazed everytime I watch it, and even though I know of the few little bits of technology help they had, close to 90+% is for real.

        SMART DOGS

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        jag
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        Sure did Bonnie, need I say more about this dog?

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        Bonnie Lea
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        Did you check out the LED sheep on YOU TUBE?   I watched a story on TV years ago about a American Lady who was hired by one of the golf courses up here, to train a border collie to herd the geese, and into the POND.  Since these breeds dont really dig swimming it was a hard feat but she did it.  It was amazing.

        Our Muffin Dog, border collie mix lab. could NOT swim.  In fact we did not know this, and we all were swimming in our pond (in the country area where we lived)  and Muffin who was very terrified being around water (though we had her since she was 8 weeks old) so I know nothing happened to her.  However, she fell off the dock after we carried her on it, and she sank.  I had to dive deep into the 14 foot water, and pull her to the surface.  From then on we never forced her near anything.  It was hard when we all went camping.

        The dog shivered and shook and became very upset as our spot then was right on the water front.  We took one of our cats (back then) and even though she was a indoor kitty, I tied a length of seam binding to her collar and she thought she was tied up.

        she loved camping (the cat)  doggy not so much.

         

        ah them were the days.

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        Pretty sure there is a stupid bacon strip ad at the beginnig of this, but this is what Bonnie Lea is talking about.  An art show involving Man Dog and Sheep.

         

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        jag
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        Pretty sure there is a stupid bacon strip ad at the beginnig of this, but this is what Bonnie Lea is talking about.  An art show involving Man Dog and Sheep.

         

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        jag
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        Uh, that would be 2 rodents and a collie.  Don't complain to me about all of your Yorkie's problems, people should read up on their breeds before getting them.  Get that testicle taken care of soon.  I will not address anything further with you and your rodent, until said cryptorchidism is addressed. .  And yes Border collies can do anything.  They are uber dog.  They use them to herd geese off of golf courses and away from airport runways.  

         

        Check out Dazzle

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      MarieM
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      Wait…I'm confused. Do you have 2 Spaniels AND a Collie?? I worry about circling hawks too. Don't turn your head for a minute. I suspect they are faster than any Collie. And stop calling your little dogs rodents. My son Chris does that..I HATE it! (They are all beautiful…congrats!)

      Marie

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      LV
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      So, why not Salander? Or just Sal for short?

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      LV
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      So, why not Salander? Or just Sal for short?

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      Oh, they are soooo cute!!!!! (And Roxanne, they don't stink – everyone likes puppy breath, there's just something so… fun and loving about it!)

      And speaking of hawks, we were sitting in the dining room watching the birds eating and drinking, when SWOOP across the deck went a huge hawk!  He missed what he was aiming for, but he sure was pretty to watch.

       

      Cyn

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        I know how serious it is.  I have a good friend who lives on an island off Vancouver, and they have a cabin down in Portland (by the ocean me thinks)  however, she worries about their dogs who are Scottish Terriers so not a teeny dog, but she does concern over the birds of prey getting them.  Though I think she means eagles.

        Imagine a Condor swooping down. 

        This whole thing reminds me of a great book I read yearrs ago, by Betty McDonald.  She was talking about one of her old grandma's who when she spoke her words were written as they sounded.  She used to tell the children when she was minding themm, that if they didnt heed her words, the CHEELDREN HAWK would come and swoop them away, so the kids when outside used to duck and cover (way before that was a phrase used in our early life)  so in the 1930's.  I always still remember the term  CHEELDREN HAWKS.  I was threatened by one of my grandmothers who was very very Irish, that if I did not behave and mind my 'mither'  that the Fairies would come and steal me away for being a bad girl.  (I was not a bad girl, she was just a meanie)

         

        We have Red Tail Hawks here, and on the way to Church last Sunday, we saw one sitting on top of a hydro pole.  Magnificent!  I used to even worry when our first cat (the one we took camping)  was outside on her 'ahem leash'  would be taken by either an owl, or at dusk, maybe a bat.  (I was a city girl at that point) just moved to the country hahha.

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        I know how serious it is.  I have a good friend who lives on an island off Vancouver, and they have a cabin down in Portland (by the ocean me thinks)  however, she worries about their dogs who are Scottish Terriers so not a teeny dog, but she does concern over the birds of prey getting them.  Though I think she means eagles.

        Imagine a Condor swooping down. 

        This whole thing reminds me of a great book I read yearrs ago, by Betty McDonald.  She was talking about one of her old grandma's who when she spoke her words were written as they sounded.  She used to tell the children when she was minding themm, that if they didnt heed her words, the CHEELDREN HAWK would come and swoop them away, so the kids when outside used to duck and cover (way before that was a phrase used in our early life)  so in the 1930's.  I always still remember the term  CHEELDREN HAWKS.  I was threatened by one of my grandmothers who was very very Irish, that if I did not behave and mind my 'mither'  that the Fairies would come and steal me away for being a bad girl.  (I was not a bad girl, she was just a meanie)

         

        We have Red Tail Hawks here, and on the way to Church last Sunday, we saw one sitting on top of a hydro pole.  Magnificent!  I used to even worry when our first cat (the one we took camping)  was outside on her 'ahem leash'  would be taken by either an owl, or at dusk, maybe a bat.  (I was a city girl at that point) just moved to the country hahha.

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        I don't know about dog breath , Cyn, I don't put my face anywhere near a dogs mouth. AND I don't just pull this stuff out of the air…I SMELL it and I've read it smiley.  Below- find a blurb I copied from a dog breed info site after I plugged a variety of words related to stinky dog breeds into GOOGLE.   I actually saw the same blurb quoted on multiple sites:

        "If you are a dog owner, you are also a dog smell owner. It's unavoidable. It's just one of those things that comes along with dog ownership.There are a number of things that can contribute to dog odor. Oily skin is a big one. For this reason, dogs with naturally oily skin, like Labradors and Beagles, tend to be the cause of a higher level of pet odors. These oils don't just stay on the dog either. They go wherever the dog goes and get left behind on couches, chairs, carpets, etc."
         
        Yum? Dog oil festering on my couch fabric! On my sheets! On my carpets! I can't help it…I'm compulsive about cleanliness and these things are not offset by a wet nose and a wagging tail. To each his own, love your pup, but realize that denial doens't deoderize! cheeky
         
        My crazy, hoarding, emotionally uneven sister has multiple dogs and lets them lick her ice cream cones AND puts her finished plates down on the floor for the dog to lick clean AND she uses the same dish sponge to wash the dog items as she does the human items- I gag just thinking about it.
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        I don't know about dog breath , Cyn, I don't put my face anywhere near a dogs mouth. AND I don't just pull this stuff out of the air…I SMELL it and I've read it smiley.  Below- find a blurb I copied from a dog breed info site after I plugged a variety of words related to stinky dog breeds into GOOGLE.   I actually saw the same blurb quoted on multiple sites:

        "If you are a dog owner, you are also a dog smell owner. It's unavoidable. It's just one of those things that comes along with dog ownership.There are a number of things that can contribute to dog odor. Oily skin is a big one. For this reason, dogs with naturally oily skin, like Labradors and Beagles, tend to be the cause of a higher level of pet odors. These oils don't just stay on the dog either. They go wherever the dog goes and get left behind on couches, chairs, carpets, etc."
         
        Yum? Dog oil festering on my couch fabric! On my sheets! On my carpets! I can't help it…I'm compulsive about cleanliness and these things are not offset by a wet nose and a wagging tail. To each his own, love your pup, but realize that denial doens't deoderize! cheeky
         
        My crazy, hoarding, emotionally uneven sister has multiple dogs and lets them lick her ice cream cones AND puts her finished plates down on the floor for the dog to lick clean AND she uses the same dish sponge to wash the dog items as she does the human items- I gag just thinking about it.
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      Oh, they are soooo cute!!!!! (And Roxanne, they don't stink – everyone likes puppy breath, there's just something so… fun and loving about it!)

      And speaking of hawks, we were sitting in the dining room watching the birds eating and drinking, when SWOOP across the deck went a huge hawk!  He missed what he was aiming for, but he sure was pretty to watch.

       

      Cyn

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      Kimmer
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      NewPup is very cute, but the Border Collie…OMG!  What a dog.

      I fostered a Border Collie one time.  She would play catch all day long (which delighted me) and liked to sit high at the top of the stairs to keep an eye on things.  The Beagledogz didn't take kindly to her herding practices and stood guard at the doors to the den where their beds were.  One each door, snarling if she came near as if to say 'we don't like that girl'.

      I worked with a rescue in Youngstown, PA who found her a job.  She now chases geese at an airport.  I understand that she is quite good at it.  And the Beaglez , snooty girls, are relaxed and happy to have full control of their house back. 

      They do not play catch.

      But I kinda like the way they smell.

      If I had the $$$ back on EmmaDog's surgery, AbbeyDog's splenectomy (sp?), etc….well it would be a pile, BUT I wouldn't have my dogz.  So I ain't complaining.  When we got 'em, we promised to take care of 'em.

       

      Congratulations on the new additions.  They are lovely dogz.

      Take good care, K.

      PS  Latrelle is a nice name….is it still taken?

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      NewPup is very cute, but the Border Collie…OMG!  What a dog.

      I fostered a Border Collie one time.  She would play catch all day long (which delighted me) and liked to sit high at the top of the stairs to keep an eye on things.  The Beagledogz didn't take kindly to her herding practices and stood guard at the doors to the den where their beds were.  One each door, snarling if she came near as if to say 'we don't like that girl'.

      I worked with a rescue in Youngstown, PA who found her a job.  She now chases geese at an airport.  I understand that she is quite good at it.  And the Beaglez , snooty girls, are relaxed and happy to have full control of their house back. 

      They do not play catch.

      But I kinda like the way they smell.

      If I had the $$$ back on EmmaDog's surgery, AbbeyDog's splenectomy (sp?), etc….well it would be a pile, BUT I wouldn't have my dogz.  So I ain't complaining.  When we got 'em, we promised to take care of 'em.

       

      Congratulations on the new additions.  They are lovely dogz.

      Take good care, K.

      PS  Latrelle is a nice name….is it still taken?

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      Nad T
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      You're a smart cat.  Good gay friend of mine (NOT Bill) has and at one time bred those runts for 1200 – peolple from England would fly over.

      So you're a shooter, eh?

      Are you aware Bill is gay?

      Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
      Mike Tyson

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        dian in spokane
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        Dan! email me dude..it's been ages since we talked and I've something on my mind for you…

         

        dian

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        Dan! email me dude..it's been ages since we talked and I've something on my mind for you…

         

        dian

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        Nad T
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        What's up?  Just had a dream with you in it.  Amazingly neither of us fell down in it.  Maturing?

        email me so I can email you.  [email protected]

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        What's up?  Just had a dream with you in it.  Amazingly neither of us fell down in it.  Maturing?

        email me so I can email you.  [email protected]

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        jag
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        That Mike Tyson quote is classic.  I can just hear the lisp with the squeaky voice.   Perfect.

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        jag
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        That Mike Tyson quote is classic.  I can just hear the lisp with the squeaky voice.   Perfect.

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      Nad T
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      You're a smart cat.  Good gay friend of mine (NOT Bill) has and at one time bred those runts for 1200 – peolple from England would fly over.

      So you're a shooter, eh?

      Are you aware Bill is gay?

      Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.
      Mike Tyson

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      Yawn
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      Adorable

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      Adorable

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