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3-4 months to live -Brain Mets -Please help

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    My friend aged 62 years was diagnosed with metastatic malignant melanoma in April 2014. HPR showed malignant melanoma of sole with invasion of reticular dermis, tumor thickness upto 3mm no PNI deep margin 1 cm away and 7/10 pelvic lymphnode positive with extracapsular extension and 8/09 ingunial lymphnode ECE. She underwent surgery in May 2014.

     

    The doctor opted for observation. She was doing fine till Oct 14, when she complained of imbalance and right lower limb weakness.The MRI showed multiple intraparenchymal lesion scattered bilateral, frontal, parietal,left occipital region largest measuring 2.5×2.3 cm. She received external beam radiotheraphy to whole brain from 27/10/14 -6/11/14. PET CT on 17/1/15 showed mildly metabolically active lesion in left external iliac region and brain lesions with interval changes. She was doing completely fine . She one day complained of pain in both knees and had difficulty walking. We had to support her even to go the restroom. Her 6th chemo was scheduled on March 2 . We went to the doctor and informed him about this. He delayed chemo for 1 day and gave her meds like mannitol etc. Then continued with her chemo and said the pain is not related to lesions in brain, She got discharged on March 7. She came back and was not able to get up herself due to weakness. Next day she was in a hazy sort of situation, taking time to understand. Her right leg and right arm had become very weak. We rushed her to emergency the next day. The doc ordered an MRI of the brain. The reports showed multiple intraparenchymal well defined nodular lesions scattered in frontal ,parietal,left occipital regions, largest measuring 3.1×2.8 cm in left frontoparietal region. Moderate perilesional edema is noted with effacement of frontal horn and mild midline shift of 3.5 mm towards right.

    They asked us since it is last stage and the problem has reoccured, there is little hope. Now they would be doing stereotactic RT from 12/3/15  for 10 days but arnt hopeful if it would help. They say she has just 3-4 months to live. In the meantime her condition has improved slightly . She is able to get up on her own and there is less weakness in right arm and leg. Her all other reports are good.

    Just 3-4 months to live when she has shown improvement..how is this possible? Is this illness so dreadful? Is there no chance of survival in case of brain mets? Looks like my world has come to an end after hearing this..can anyone please help? Is there any ray of hope.

    Stay Blessed!

     

     

     

     

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      arthurjedi007
      Participant

        What chemo did she receive? Is she seeing a melanoma specialist?

        In my opinion she needs treated by a melanoma specialist as quick as possible. One thing they would do is a test on the biopsy material to see if she has the B-RAF mutation. For me that took about 2 days. If that comes back positive she could immediately start taking the tafinlar mekinist pills which has some documented evidence proving they work on brain mets as well and when they work they work rather quickly. While that is being done they would probably do some type of radiation like you describe either gamma knife or whole brain. A real good doc would also start immunotherapy of either yervoy, opdivo or keytruda but these take time to work. A really good doc could also get her into a trial with these or other meds.

        it sounds like she is in a critical way and time is of the essence. Some of the bigger places to go would be md Anderson in Houston or msk in new york. I dunno where you are located.

        Hope that helps.

        Artie

        arthurjedi007
        Participant

          What chemo did she receive? Is she seeing a melanoma specialist?

          In my opinion she needs treated by a melanoma specialist as quick as possible. One thing they would do is a test on the biopsy material to see if she has the B-RAF mutation. For me that took about 2 days. If that comes back positive she could immediately start taking the tafinlar mekinist pills which has some documented evidence proving they work on brain mets as well and when they work they work rather quickly. While that is being done they would probably do some type of radiation like you describe either gamma knife or whole brain. A real good doc would also start immunotherapy of either yervoy, opdivo or keytruda but these take time to work. A really good doc could also get her into a trial with these or other meds.

          it sounds like she is in a critical way and time is of the essence. Some of the bigger places to go would be md Anderson in Houston or msk in new york. I dunno where you are located.

          Hope that helps.

          Artie

          arthurjedi007
          Participant

            What chemo did she receive? Is she seeing a melanoma specialist?

            In my opinion she needs treated by a melanoma specialist as quick as possible. One thing they would do is a test on the biopsy material to see if she has the B-RAF mutation. For me that took about 2 days. If that comes back positive she could immediately start taking the tafinlar mekinist pills which has some documented evidence proving they work on brain mets as well and when they work they work rather quickly. While that is being done they would probably do some type of radiation like you describe either gamma knife or whole brain. A real good doc would also start immunotherapy of either yervoy, opdivo or keytruda but these take time to work. A really good doc could also get her into a trial with these or other meds.

            it sounds like she is in a critical way and time is of the essence. Some of the bigger places to go would be md Anderson in Houston or msk in new york. I dunno where you are located.

            Hope that helps.

            Artie

            Patina
            Participant

              It would be great if you could tell us where you are located and if you are seeing a melanoma specialists. Others could recommend some near you.

              From some things you've said it does not sound like your firend is seeing one and that is what she needs. And she needs to see if she is BRAF positive and if so take the combo that Aritie has suggested. I can work fast.

              I've responded to you previously and told you that my Mom had gamma knife radiation followed in days by Yervoy.  I have heard that Keytruda may work faster on the brain and perhaps gamma knife radiation with it could help…  I don't know.

              But I do know that you need to act fast .

               

               

              Read these studies:

              http://www.elekta.com/press/9381f384-ff4a-4561-80c7-5175f5e0f381/study-finds-gamma-knife-radiosurgery-alone-yields-equal-survival-outcomes-for-patients-with-two-to-10-tumors.html

              “The essential criticism of employing Gamma Knife radiosurgery without WBRT for patients with several lesions is that microscopic tumors might go untreated, necessitating salvage stereotactic radiosurgery or an alternative therapy,” he adds. “Thus, WBRT is widely advocated. However, a recent study showed that WBRT is only able to prevent the emergence of new tumors for no more than six months post-treatment. Many patients with brain mets can survive for more than a year, thereby outliving the effects of WBRT.”

              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3892394/

              Study finds marijana drastically shrinks brain cancer

              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/18/marijuana-brain-cancer_n_6181060.html?ir=Healthy+Living

               

                Thanks for the reply. Iam based out of India (Asia). Sadly , there are no melanoma specialist here. My friend has showed slight improvement. She is able to get up on her own now and feeling less weak. Just had her first radiation done. 9 more to go.

                 

                Can anyone suggest a good doctor in India? Is there any melanoma specialist you all know in US whom I can email the report and have a look and give opinion.

                Thanks for the reply. Iam based out of India (Asia). Sadly , there are no melanoma specialist here. My friend has showed slight improvement. She is able to get up on her own now and feeling less weak. Just had her first radiation done. 9 more to go.

                 

                Can anyone suggest a good doctor in India? Is there any melanoma specialist you all know in US whom I can email the report and have a look and give opinion.

                Thanks for the reply. Iam based out of India (Asia). Sadly , there are no melanoma specialist here. My friend has showed slight improvement. She is able to get up on her own now and feeling less weak. Just had her first radiation done. 9 more to go.

                 

                Can anyone suggest a good doctor in India? Is there any melanoma specialist you all know in US whom I can email the report and have a look and give opinion.

                arthurjedi007
                Participant

                  While she is doing radiation or soon after  is she also able to get on an immunotherapy medicine like yervoy or opdivo or keytruda?

                  Has she had the braf mutation test yet? Did it come back positive? If it did can she get on the tafinlar and mekinist pills yet?

                  go to forum.melanomainternational.org  Scroll to the bottom of that page. See over to the right a link that says email. Click it and email what you want. If you want right above that email link is a phone number if you want to talk by phone. That is the information to contact the melanoma international group who should be able to help. Catherine Poole and her staff helps a lot of people with melanoma find doctors in various countries and pretty much everything they can possibly do.

                  Artie

                  arthurjedi007
                  Participant

                    While she is doing radiation or soon after  is she also able to get on an immunotherapy medicine like yervoy or opdivo or keytruda?

                    Has she had the braf mutation test yet? Did it come back positive? If it did can she get on the tafinlar and mekinist pills yet?

                    go to forum.melanomainternational.org  Scroll to the bottom of that page. See over to the right a link that says email. Click it and email what you want. If you want right above that email link is a phone number if you want to talk by phone. That is the information to contact the melanoma international group who should be able to help. Catherine Poole and her staff helps a lot of people with melanoma find doctors in various countries and pretty much everything they can possibly do.

                    Artie

                    arthurjedi007
                    Participant

                      While she is doing radiation or soon after  is she also able to get on an immunotherapy medicine like yervoy or opdivo or keytruda?

                      Has she had the braf mutation test yet? Did it come back positive? If it did can she get on the tafinlar and mekinist pills yet?

                      go to forum.melanomainternational.org  Scroll to the bottom of that page. See over to the right a link that says email. Click it and email what you want. If you want right above that email link is a phone number if you want to talk by phone. That is the information to contact the melanoma international group who should be able to help. Catherine Poole and her staff helps a lot of people with melanoma find doctors in various countries and pretty much everything they can possibly do.

                      Artie

                      arthurjedi007
                      Participant

                        I hope you got the help you needed.

                        Artie

                        arthurjedi007
                        Participant

                          I hope you got the help you needed.

                          Artie

                          arthurjedi007
                          Participant

                            I hope you got the help you needed.

                            Artie

                            BrianP
                            Participant

                              If someone mentioned this already I didn't see it but are you aware of the Melanoma International Foundation Forum?  Similar to this forum but smaller and not quite as active but there is a little more international involvement.  The moderator (Catherine Poole) has contacts and information on trials all over the world.  She'll often go above and beyond to help patients out.  I'm sure if you post a question on that forum similar to the one you posted here she will reply. 

                              http://forum.melanomainternational.org/mif/viewforum.php?f=54&sid=07c3b04264913136c1b7632778fabe59

                              BrianP
                              Participant

                                If someone mentioned this already I didn't see it but are you aware of the Melanoma International Foundation Forum?  Similar to this forum but smaller and not quite as active but there is a little more international involvement.  The moderator (Catherine Poole) has contacts and information on trials all over the world.  She'll often go above and beyond to help patients out.  I'm sure if you post a question on that forum similar to the one you posted here she will reply. 

                                http://forum.melanomainternational.org/mif/viewforum.php?f=54&sid=07c3b04264913136c1b7632778fabe59

                                BrianP
                                Participant

                                  If someone mentioned this already I didn't see it but are you aware of the Melanoma International Foundation Forum?  Similar to this forum but smaller and not quite as active but there is a little more international involvement.  The moderator (Catherine Poole) has contacts and information on trials all over the world.  She'll often go above and beyond to help patients out.  I'm sure if you post a question on that forum similar to the one you posted here she will reply. 

                                  http://forum.melanomainternational.org/mif/viewforum.php?f=54&sid=07c3b04264913136c1b7632778fabe59

                                Patina
                                Participant

                                  It would be great if you could tell us where you are located and if you are seeing a melanoma specialists. Others could recommend some near you.

                                  From some things you've said it does not sound like your firend is seeing one and that is what she needs. And she needs to see if she is BRAF positive and if so take the combo that Aritie has suggested. I can work fast.

                                  I've responded to you previously and told you that my Mom had gamma knife radiation followed in days by Yervoy.  I have heard that Keytruda may work faster on the brain and perhaps gamma knife radiation with it could help…  I don't know.

                                  But I do know that you need to act fast .

                                   

                                   

                                  Read these studies:

                                  http://www.elekta.com/press/9381f384-ff4a-4561-80c7-5175f5e0f381/study-finds-gamma-knife-radiosurgery-alone-yields-equal-survival-outcomes-for-patients-with-two-to-10-tumors.html

                                  “The essential criticism of employing Gamma Knife radiosurgery without WBRT for patients with several lesions is that microscopic tumors might go untreated, necessitating salvage stereotactic radiosurgery or an alternative therapy,” he adds. “Thus, WBRT is widely advocated. However, a recent study showed that WBRT is only able to prevent the emergence of new tumors for no more than six months post-treatment. Many patients with brain mets can survive for more than a year, thereby outliving the effects of WBRT.”

                                  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3892394/

                                  Study finds marijana drastically shrinks brain cancer

                                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/18/marijuana-brain-cancer_n_6181060.html?ir=Healthy+Living

                                   

                                  Patina
                                  Participant

                                    It would be great if you could tell us where you are located and if you are seeing a melanoma specialists. Others could recommend some near you.

                                    From some things you've said it does not sound like your firend is seeing one and that is what she needs. And she needs to see if she is BRAF positive and if so take the combo that Aritie has suggested. I can work fast.

                                    I've responded to you previously and told you that my Mom had gamma knife radiation followed in days by Yervoy.  I have heard that Keytruda may work faster on the brain and perhaps gamma knife radiation with it could help…  I don't know.

                                    But I do know that you need to act fast .

                                     

                                     

                                    Read these studies:

                                    http://www.elekta.com/press/9381f384-ff4a-4561-80c7-5175f5e0f381/study-finds-gamma-knife-radiosurgery-alone-yields-equal-survival-outcomes-for-patients-with-two-to-10-tumors.html

                                    “The essential criticism of employing Gamma Knife radiosurgery without WBRT for patients with several lesions is that microscopic tumors might go untreated, necessitating salvage stereotactic radiosurgery or an alternative therapy,” he adds. “Thus, WBRT is widely advocated. However, a recent study showed that WBRT is only able to prevent the emergence of new tumors for no more than six months post-treatment. Many patients with brain mets can survive for more than a year, thereby outliving the effects of WBRT.”

                                    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3892394/

                                    Study finds marijana drastically shrinks brain cancer

                                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/18/marijuana-brain-cancer_n_6181060.html?ir=Healthy+Living

                                     

                                    lmhl
                                    Participant

                                      How are you and your friend doing?  I agree with Artie, time is of essence.  Melanoma is so unpredictable. My husband had a similar course as your friend. They told him 3-4 months with WBR. He had 5 treatments along with two ipi's but couldn't beat it. Ask lots of questions and keep hope. I have seen so many positive outcomes-stay positive. 

                                       

                                      Wishing you all the best. 

                                      lmhl
                                      Participant

                                        How are you and your friend doing?  I agree with Artie, time is of essence.  Melanoma is so unpredictable. My husband had a similar course as your friend. They told him 3-4 months with WBR. He had 5 treatments along with two ipi's but couldn't beat it. Ask lots of questions and keep hope. I have seen so many positive outcomes-stay positive. 

                                         

                                        Wishing you all the best. 

                                        lmhl
                                        Participant

                                          How are you and your friend doing?  I agree with Artie, time is of essence.  Melanoma is so unpredictable. My husband had a similar course as your friend. They told him 3-4 months with WBR. He had 5 treatments along with two ipi's but couldn't beat it. Ask lots of questions and keep hope. I have seen so many positive outcomes-stay positive. 

                                           

                                          Wishing you all the best. 

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